The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vestrian24Bio 04:43, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Art of Europe → European artEuropean art – For consistency with other articles (African art, Asian art, South American art, Oceanian art, etc.) and categories (see Category:Art by continent), see also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_December_14#Category:Art_of_Europe. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:10, 14 December 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 12:41, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: if the rationale is "consistency with other articles", it is worth noting that Asian art and South American art are in fact redirects and not articles. So we are asked to be consistent with just African art and Oceanian art. Place Clichy (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Place Clichy True, but South American art is a redirect to adjective form Latin American art, while Asian art, to "history of Asian art", so "of Europe" remains the only exception ("of Foo" rather than "Fooian"). And if you look at countries, it's even more so, it'sd always French art, Chinese art, not art of France, art of China... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:55, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You changed that yesterday. Place Clichy (talk) 10:17, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, so what? The point is, there is an article named Latin American art, and not art of Latin America. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:42, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So this underlines the issue of the scope of these articles. Latin America makes sense as a region in terms of art, culture, and civilization, while South America makes sense as a continent in terms of geography. This is not unlike Europe. Ancient art & civilization in Europe can't be dissociated from the Mediterranean, and in modern times it can't be dissociated from the Atlantic. Place Clichy (talk) 15:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reasonable - except the term is widely in academia. It's not our place to correct terminology, per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:WRONGS, etc. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:03, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To mean what? It would help to find the better name for this article if we knew what you intend it to cover under your scheme. Place Clichy (talk) 03:11, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show me reliable source that differentiates between "art of Europe" or "European art"? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:59, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That rather silly question cuts both ways. Johnbod (talk) 13:08, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Except it invalidates the argument above which suggests that the proposed name is incorrect. So, no straw man arguments, please. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support for consistency. There's no sense in each continent being different. Although I will note that some of the links cited in the nomination are currently redirects. Mclay1 (talk) 05:25, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, the article starts with "... or Western art". The latter might be a more common term in art history. @Johnbod: do you happen to know more about this? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the ping! Obviously, Western art includes the Americas (post-conquest) but both terms are very common. This article indeed covers only Europe, so Western art would be inappropriate as a title, but I think is ok to redirect here. Johnbod (talk) 12:11, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose This nom is yet another sneaky device in Piotyrus's campaign to replace the long-established main article for Asia History of Asian art, which title was decided in a well-attended move discussion in 2016. Asian art is at Afd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asian art Johnbod (talk) 12:11, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Support A few of those examples are redirects, but even the article they point to are Adjective + Art. Makes sense to rename this for consistency. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:52, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. There is a difference with the other articles cited as comparison. Of Europe makes it somewhat clear that the topic is in relation to a geographic area whose limits are, in fact, arbitrary. The article can therefore be a juxtaposition of topics with no necessary unique driving factor between them. There is in fact no single European art that would be dissociable from other older civilizations around the Mediterranean. Minoan art, the subject of the first paragraph, did not pop out of nowhere. Ex oriente lux, as they say. The introduction makes it clear that the actual topic is, in fact, Western art. This is different from other articles such as History of Asian art or African art, which are not juxtapositions of the arts of every civilizations on these continents, but about Asian civilizations (East of the Silk Road, excluding West Asia) and Sub-Saharan African civilizations. When one goes to a museum of Asian art, one does not expect to find Mesopotamian artifacts. Place Clichy (talk) 01:00, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Eh? Then clearly "one" will be surprised. https://asia.si.edu/explore-art-culture/collections/collections-areas/ancient-near-east/ , https://www.metmuseum.org/departments/ancient-west-asian-art , https://www.museum.go.kr/ENG/contents/E0202030000.do?menuId=past&exhiSpThemId=778608&schM=view&listType=list , etc. Mesopotamian art is a common feature in museums of Asian art. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:13, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Agree with Place Clichy that drawing the lines by continent seems anachronistic. Hellenistic and Roman art spread in parts of Asia and Africa, early modern Western art spread to the colonies. An article about Western art seems more useful than an article about art in Europe as a continent. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Marcocapelle There is nothing wrong with creating a broader Western art article, but this article has a more narrow scope. And it is certainly a topic discussed, in this narrow form, by academics. See GS query. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:46, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Europe, WikiProject Visual arts, WikiProject European history, and WikiProject Sculpture have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 12:41, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose, per Johnbod and other opposing comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]