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Hello M. Bitton, as you said, " Your edit warring and unwillingness to communicate (despite the comments left on your talk page and the ping from here) is what's problematic. There was no such thing as "Moroccan", "Algerian", Tunisian" or a concept of nationality back then (other than belonging to the Maghreb, as opposed to the Mashreq, and being Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.). 20:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)"

There was in fact no such thing, or a concept of nationality back then. Why should it apply to Ibn Battuta but not Ahmad ibn Abi Jum'ah? What is the difference? ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 21:23, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That would depend on the "back then". There is a massive difference between the 12th and the the 16th century, and while I really don't care about where he was from, the fact that your edits contradict your claims is enough to discredit your pseudo-concerns. Also, Don't add my signature to your comments. M.Bitton (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No it really wouldnt. There was no concept of nationality at the time of this scholar. Can you substantiate the difference? Also Ibn battuta was born during the 14th century, also Al Ju'mah was born in the 15th century.

14th century v 15/16th century there really isnt a massive difference, both are medieval period. Zayyanid state existed during both Ibn battuta's and Al Ju'mah time.

There should be consistency across articles. ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 21:39, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits contradict your claims. In other words, you tried to push a nationalist POV and are now trying something else. M.Bitton (talk) 21:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter if my edits were wrong I didn't know wikipedia policy. You are the one being inconsistent here. I actually took the time to read some wikipedia talk pages and saw that wikipedia has this so-called policy, which doesn't seem to be upheld, or maybe its not even a policy at all.

I was not pushing a nationalist POV, i actually thought he was moroccan, because I had sources that seemed to be indicating that. ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 21:43, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This edit of yours contradicts your claims about the There was in fact no such thing,.... M.Bitton (talk) 21:45, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Will you actually substantiate any difference between Ibn Battuta and Ibn abi Ju'mah? I just said I did not know the policy of wikipedia about nationality or whatever. After all it was you that said "There was no such thing as "Moroccan", "Algerian", Tunisian" or a concept of nationality back then (other than belonging to the Maghreb, as opposed to the Mashreq, and being Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.)."

Now you clearly apply this rule to a Moroccan, but not an Algerian + the fact you have a history of focusing on algeria-related articles.

Just be consistent ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You said that I have a history of .... I do have a history of detecting socks.

So now, I want you to answer the question that I asked on your talk page: what's your previous account? M.Bitton (talk) 21:53, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

you are accusing me of breaking wikipedia rules. you clearly have no regard forWP:AFG.

You are blatantly being inconsistent. there was no such thing as "moroccan", "algerian", "tunisian". ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

you have a history of... (repeated twice, here and on your talk page) is a clear-cut bad faith assumption and baseless accusation.

What's your previous account? M.Bitton (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

repeatedly asking this question of yours thiking its somehow slick is harassment at this point. ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 22:06, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Does that you mean you don't want to share the information about your previous account? M.Bitton (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to check WP:HA. At this point you're not even trying to hide how biased you are ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 22:15, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Since you refuse to share the information about your previous account, I will simply leave the diffs of your first three edits (of the day): Special:Diff/1332139391, Special:Diff/1332429213, Special:Diff/1332430624 (which speak for themselves). M.Bitton (talk) 22:17, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's kinda crazy you haven't even engaged once with anything related to this article. Its good though, keep going accusing me of breaking the rules.

Look what you said here "M. Bitton" (both in the ibn battuta talk page)

"There was no such thing as "Moroccan", "Algerian", Tunisian" or a concept of nationality back then" / "As I previously mentioned, describing him as "Moroccan" is obviously anachronistic."

Why isn't it so obvious now, huh?

Do you have any other accounts you use to target moroccan and algerian history? ~2026-19016-6 (talk) 22:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton I agree that user ~2026-19016-6 was clearly contradicting themselves based on the diffs you provided, but the question they asked still needs to be addressed. It’s a legitimate question in this context. ~2026-23322-1 (talk) 00:50, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing in their contradictory claims that needs to be addressed, and while I don't care about the content, I have every right to question anyone who accuses me of the very thing that they are exhibiting in their handful of edits. I have been harassed by block evading socks and single purpose accounts (who are clearly colluding on social media) for far too long to ignore such nonsense. Enough is enough. M.Bitton (talk) 14:29, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

again not addressing anything to do with your clear contradictory claims.You have no proof of me being a sock, or colluding on social media. If you don't care about the content then just stop with your double standards and accept that he's Maghrebi, not "Algerian" as no such thing existed. ~2026-23581-3 (talk) 00:32, 13 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"stop with your double standards" Double standards is when you claim that the subject is Moroccan in one edit and then immediately assert that there was no such thing back then in the next. Moreover, "you have a history of focusing on algeria-related articles" is an obvious indicator of sockpuppetry. Skitash (talk) 13:53, 13 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Your baseless accusations don't need responding to, you are obviously in cahoots with M.Bitton, you two coordinate on many things. Anyone who doubts what i'm saying can just look up their names on google, they have clear agendas. ~2026-23581-3 (talk) 15:44, 13 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]