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For input, I am pinging [[User:Legitimus|Legitimus]] and [[User:KateWishing|KateWishing]], who took part in that previous discussion and are as knowledgeable as I am on the topic of child sexual abuse, statutory rape and pedophilia. Also pinging [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]], who sometimes helps with such topics, and [[User:Fyddlestix|Fyddlestix]], who is involved in a discussion at [[Talk:Rape myth]] concerning child sexual abuse, where Staszek Lem started to focus on the topic. [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 21:14, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
For input, I am pinging [[User:Legitimus|Legitimus]] and [[User:KateWishing|KateWishing]], who took part in that previous discussion and are as knowledgeable as I am on the topic of child sexual abuse, statutory rape and pedophilia. Also pinging [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]], who sometimes helps with such topics, and [[User:Fyddlestix|Fyddlestix]], who is involved in a discussion at [[Talk:Rape myth]] concerning child sexual abuse, where Staszek Lem started to focus on the topic. [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 21:14, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
:{{tq|It states nothing about child sexual abuse being broader or different than child molestation}} Does my text say so? Anyway, I hold that "Sexual abuse" and "sexual assault" is not one and the same. (Just as a violent rape against a minor is not a statutory rape.) The difference is violence. If you have legal sources which define showing lewd pictures to a minor as "molestation", I have no objections you add add the refs to the article. [[User:Staszek Lem|Staszek Lem]] ([[User talk:Staszek Lem|talk]]) 21:23, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

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Child sexual abuse vs. child molestation again

As seen here, here, here and here, Staszek Lem is distinguishing child sexual abuse from child molestation at both the Statutory rape article and this article, without any sources supporting such a distinction. The source Staszek Lem is using to make this distinction is a source I recently used at the Statutory rape article. The quote states the following: "Child molestation: A form of sexual assault committed against a child below a certain age. That age is usually set between 12 and 14 since such ages correspond to the onset of puberty, thereby differentiating the offense from statutory rapes (against post-pubescent adolescents) and various degrees of sexual assaults/sexual batteries against victims over the age of consent for sex." It states nothing about child sexual abuse being broader or different than child molestation. Last year, the fact that child sexual abuse and child molestation are synonyms was discussed; see Talk:Child sexual abuse/Archive 9#Child sexual abuse is not the same as molestation. Consensus, per the literature, is that they are indeed synonyms.

For input, I am pinging Legitimus and KateWishing, who took part in that previous discussion and are as knowledgeable as I am on the topic of child sexual abuse, statutory rape and pedophilia. Also pinging Herostratus, who sometimes helps with such topics, and Fyddlestix, who is involved in a discussion at Talk:Rape myth concerning child sexual abuse, where Staszek Lem started to focus on the topic. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It states nothing about child sexual abuse being broader or different than child molestation Does my text say so? Anyway, I hold that "Sexual abuse" and "sexual assault" is not one and the same. (Just as a violent rape against a minor is not a statutory rape.) The difference is violence. If you have legal sources which define showing lewd pictures to a minor as "molestation", I have no objections you add add the refs to the article. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:23, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]