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This review is transcluded from Talk:Washington University in St. Louis/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Wozal (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 13:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wozal, as promised I'll review this. I'll start with the later criteria on this one and work my way up. IAWW (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal Nice work, this article is looking way way better than it did for its first nomination. Comments on the images and the scope are below. The two scope concerns are the biggest points. If you think it will take more than a few days to address these two concerns, it would be best to close the review, work on the improvements outside of the GA system, and then renominate after they have been addressed (I will be available to review it again). Ping me when they have been addressed, and I'll continue the review, or if you want more than a few days to work on them, let me know and I'll close it. IAWW (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal A few additional comments on the scope and the comments on the lead are below. IAWW (talk) 20:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world: Moved sources in lead as requested and reworked lead to include History, Governance and Finances. Let me know if you think this one is better! Wozal (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Much better, though summaries of "Rankings and reputation" and "Campus life" are still missing. I think some more financial statistics and admissions information should be included, and a sentence or two on its history since 1904. Then I think the lead will have no major scope concerns and I'll get into the prose review. IAWW (talk) 11:24, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world -

I've made some changes based on your suggestions. See this edit for specific differences

For the "Rankings and reputation", I've added that it is a top producer of Fulbright scholars, per this source,[1], in the same way Pomona College mentions it. I'd be hesitant to add additional information in the lead because of the consensus on this: WP:HIGHERED REP.

Happy to make any additional changes. Wozal (talk) 14:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point, nice to know about that RfC. I shall continue with prose comments shortly IAWW (talk) 09:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal Prose comments for the first section are below. I'm impressed by how well this is written, I haven't spotted many issues aside from some lack of clarity. IAWW (talk) 10:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Wozal, I finished reviewing the history section below. IAWW (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hi @It is a wonderful world, Really appreciate the thoroughness on your comments. I think I'm made changes as requested! Wozal (talk) 18:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, should be able to continue tomorrow. IAWW (talk) 19:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal I have finished reviewing the prose!! We are getting there! I am now going through your replies/changes. IAWW (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal Spot check done. Just found a few issues. I can't wait to pass this! By the way, this review is almost twice as long in word count as the actual article. That's crazy! IAWW (talk) 08:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world: I think I have all the edits now! The review being twice as long as the article is insane but hopefully allows it to serve as a template for more GA university articles in the future. I think your very thorough review will allow others to better understand what to scan for! Wozal (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal I just had a look at what this article looked like before you started work on it, and it is just so so much better now. I think the length of the review was quite inevitable given the scope of this article and it being your first GA.

It gives me great pleasure to pass this as a solid GA. I agree it is a fantastic example for writers looking to take on the big task of upping the quality of a university article. I hope I'll see you round, because you were a pleasure to work with. Consider reviewing a GA or two to help cut down the backlog! IAWW (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is some info in the infobox that is not contained in the article. This should generally not be the case as the infobox is meant to be a summary of what is in the article (MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE). Including:

• Motto
• Motto in English
• Accreditation
• Some affiliations
• An "as of" statements saying that Martin is currently the chancellor
• Provost
• Various statistics
• Campus "large suburb" classification? I'm not really sure what this means
• Colors
• Nickname
• "CCIW" sporting affiliation
• Mascot
• Don't worry about the "ASN", I think this is an exception to the general rule.
• This also means you shouldn't need to source anything in the infobox, as you wouldn't need to source anything uncontroversial in the lead. IAWW (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 16:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, I think you incorporated this all into the article very well. IAWW (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there a logo at the bottom of the infobox with no context? Is that the current logo? I suggest adding a caption and moving it out the infobox or below the other logo in the infobox and explaining if possible how the different logos relate to each other. IAWW (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removed.

Did some googling. Official logo is here: https://marcomm.washu.edu/washu-logo/ but it doesn't seem to be available for use on Wikipedia. Wozal (talk) 16:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You could replace the current logo with that one, using the same non-free use rationale. However that definitely goes beyond GA criteria and would take a bit of work, so I'll leave it as a suggestion. IAWW (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University is classified among "R1: Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity".: Same points I wrote about his sentence in the body apply here IAWW (talk) 20:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted in the lead; expanded in the body. (I noticed that it wasn't included on a lot of other schools which would be considered R1, but that the Association of American Universities was included. Wozal (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is also very well written and relevant. Very good. IAWW (talk) 20:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Wozal (talk) 03:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

, grandfather of poet T. S. Eliot,: Unnecessary detail IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Fun fact: That edit appears to go all the way back to 2003! Back then, the article looked like this: [2] Wozal (talk) 10:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. That's wild! IAWW (talk) 11:34, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So that's what this article looked like 15 days before I was born... IAWW (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

as Washington was revered as the "Father of his country".: Revered by who? Otherwise it is too vague to impart real information. You could also cut this, as it could be argued it is unnecessary detail. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. The second reason seems to vary based on the source.

This one claims it to be because "The trustees saw Washington as an important symbol and a uniting figure in the pre-Civil War United States."[3], while the previous source mentions "Father of his country". Wozal (talk) 12:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I agree it's better cut too. IAWW (talk) 20:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The university’s directors purchased a three-acre site at the southwest corner of Seventeenth Street and Washington Avenue: When? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source just mentions earlier but exact year is not specified. Reworked to fix. Wozal (talk) 12:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

During this period: During what period exactly? Before the first building was built? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Wozal (talk) 12:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Classes began on October 22, 1854, at the O'Fallon Evening School: The timeline is confusing here. Was this before Benton Schoolhouse? I suggest rearranging to a strictly chronological order for this part. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed per Morrow source. Wozal (talk) 11:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reads well now IAWW (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

preparatory academic department for boys: Do we know what ages this included? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added and included source. Wozal (talk) 13:05, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

and is believed to be: By whom? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Wozal (talk) 15:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The School of Art and Design was established: When? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source mentions 1871 as a renaming, but also mentions it was part of something else originally. Removed because I think the details would get in the way of the overview otherwise. Wozal (talk) 15:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When the legislature reintroduced a bar exam for all candidates in 1879, the law school catalog emphasized that the courts had ruled the diploma privilege still applied despite the new law: I think this is unnecessary detail for this article, it would be fine in History of Washington University in St. Louis, but this is meant to be somewhat of a summary. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved per suggestion. Wozal (talk) 15:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically this article goes into more detail now than the actual history article itself. IAWW (talk) 21:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

and revised its admissions policies: Too vague to be meaningful IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted since it isn't necessary to the rest. Wozal (talk) 11:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Facing declining enrollment in the 1870s, the university sought to strengthen ties with local preparatory schools and revised its admissions policies.[1] By 1880, graduates from select high schools could enter by certificate rather than examination: These two sentences seem to deal with the same idea, so they can be combined. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Combined Wozal (talk) 11:38, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

with greater emphasis on science, history, and English: It's unclear whether this is referring to the new philosophy degree or the Bachelor of Arts degree IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification added Wozal (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lectures and written exams replaced traditional oral recitations, and completing a senior thesis became a requirement for graduation: In all courses? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified per source. Wozal (talk) 16:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

After a unanimous faculty vote, the first woman enrolled in 1870; by the 1890s, women were the main drivers of the college’s growth: Earlier it is said that Lemma Barkeloo and Phoebe Couzins enrolled in 1869? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From my understanding of the sourced texts, the law department admitted two women but it wasn't an adopted university-wide policy until 1870. Right now, I'm thinking of deleting "the first women enrolled in 1870" to make it more consistent. I'll have to figure out how to best rework that sentence. Wozal (talk) 11:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworked without deleting. Wozal (talk) 16:41, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

main drivers of the college’s growth: Be specific you are talking about enrollment growth if that is what you mean. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified! Wozal (talk) 11:11, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is the "A.B." degree? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spelled out Bachelor of Arts for consistency. Not sure if this is a U.S. only thing but some colleges award BA degrees; others award AB degrees. AB translates to Artium Baccalaureus and is granted by schools with latin ties (most of which are in the Ivy League); but both AB and BA are considered Bachelor of Arts degrees. Wozal (talk) 11:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had never heard of it before, I'm pretty sure it's not a thing here in the UK IAWW (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right! From what I can tell, it's some sort of 18th/19th century holdover in the US. Wozal (talk) 03:57, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

from 40 out of 45: When was this the requirement? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified Wozal (talk) 16:01, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Within twelve years: From when? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Year added per source. Wozal (talk) 13:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

its new campus: "Its" new campus suggests they were vacating the old one. Do you mean "a" new campus? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this! You're correct. While the undergraduate campus was being moved, the medical campus was not. Wozal (talk) 11:31, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the Olmsted firm: Just checking you don't mean "an" Olmsted firm? If not, did you mean to capitalize "firm" as it would be part of the name? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworked a little and added a wikilink for clarification. Wozal (talk) 10:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

marking the beginning of the architects' significant influence on both the campus’s development and the University’s policies: This is quite vague. What influence specifically did they have, and how did they affect the University's policies? IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded for clarification. Please double check my work on this one since I tried to keep it as simple as possible. Wozal (talk) 16:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's much clearer in general. Thanks for expanding. There is a few ambiguities in the wording though:

"Olmsted's praise of the site led the board to agree to buy the land without conditions and supported a fundraising campaign to pay off the mortgage": Grammatically, the word "supported" refers to Olmsted's praise. So, this sentence reads as "Olmsted's praise supported a fundraising campaign to pay off the mortgage". I'm not sure that's what you were going for?

"with the main structure facing east from the ridge": The main structure of what? IAWW (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world - These have now been slightly reworked. Original source read: "Theirs, for instance, were the ideas that the most monumental building on the campus should face east from the brow of the ridge". As such, I have changed "main structure" to "main building". Also deleted "supported a fundraising campaign..." because it added clunkiness and rereading the source, it's unnecessary detail. Wozal (talk) 19:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you. I think it reads very well now. IAWW (talk) 15:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

to a new site: Make it clear this is the same tract of land mentioned earlier. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Wozal (talk) 14:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world - Thanks for these comments! I've now gone through them all and updated them. Wozal (talk) 16:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal thanks for responding so quickly with great improvements. I'll read through this section again at some point, but I'm pretty sure it'll be up to GA quality. The set of comments for the next section are below. IAWW (talk) 09:46, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The medical faculty, seeking to advance the institution, successfully negotiated the terms: It's weird to say that one party negotiated, when negotiation is by definition requires both parties to discuss. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworked slightly for context and clarification. Wozal (talk) 14:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Recognizing that university affiliation would enhance its status and educational quality, the medical college sought to distinguish itself from other local medical schools: This is an opinion stated as fact, which should be avoided (WP:NPOV). Also, I think this is unnecessary detail so should just be cut. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The dental school’s first-year curriculum was almost identical to the medical college’s, and medical and dental students often attended classes together. Graduates of the dental college could earn an M.D. degree after an additional year of study, making the affiliation a natural next step: Unnecessary detail I think – why discuss these two degrees in detail as oppose to all the others? IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Wozal (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

completing the foundation for Washington University’s health programs: This is an opinion so should be attributed. It can be done by phrasing it like "Historian Ralph E. Morrow later wrote that this affiliation completed the foundation of Washington University’s health programs". IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Attributed; thanks! Wozal (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :) IAWW (talk) 21:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

This section is very long and could do with being broken down a bit. One possibility would be to break of the African American students information into its own subsection. But you can choose how to do it. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Broken down into a few different sections to be in more manageable chunks like the 19th century. Wozal (talk) 13:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The cornerstone of the first building: I thought the University already had lots of buildings? What about the medial buildings? IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Went back to source and found a page that went into more detail. Ended up linking Washington University Hilltop Campus Historic District but not sure if its current name Danforth Campus (mentioned as a renaming later) would be better to include. Wozal (talk) 15:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah it makes sense now IAWW (talk) 21:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

requiring advanced studies for graduation: Can you be a bit more precise? IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Revised for more neutrality. I replaced wording here because the source doesn't mention what the criteria for it is. Wozal (talk) 15:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early in its history: Opinion that can just be cut IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 14:57, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

it marked a significant moment in the university's history: Opinion, attribute or cut. I would suggest cutting this one since it doesn't really impart real information. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 14:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the university saw significant enrollment growth: Opinion. This could be reworded as a fact though, e.g. "the university's enrollment grew by ##%". IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded to include facts. Wozal (talk) 18:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 15:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

driven by World War II veterans using the G.I. Bill: Could you explain this a bit more? We don't want the reader to have to click the link (MOS:NOFORCELINK) IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Small explanation added; let me know if you were looking for something else instead. Wozal (talk) 20:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a very good quick explanation IAWW (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

as early as 1945: Implies it was early, which is an opinion. Cut "as early as" to fix this. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Wozal (talk) 14:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

expressing support for ending segregation: In the whole university or in a specific school? IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the source, "Meanwhile, the school of social work, whose dean had let it be known two years earlier that he was ready for desegregation, opened enrollment to African American..." I imagine it's for the specific school but I don't want to make that assumption so I've deleted that portion. Wozal (talk) 20:00, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair. Elsewhere in the article it mentions they desegregated so early which is good because I think it is very notable. IAWW (talk) 21:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

on the hilltop campus: This is the first time this campus has been mentioned. It needs at least a short introduction. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now mentioned earlier Wozal (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

marking further strides toward desegregation across the university: Opinion, and doesn't impart real information. Cut. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 15:00, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Work on the South 40 site: Where is the South 40 site? IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @It is a wonderful world,

I think this was my remaining correction within this set. I added a location for the South 40 site; but the link I provided mentions the Danforth Campus (instead of the Hilltop Campus). Later in the article, it's mentioned that the Hilltop Campus was renamed to the Danforth Campus. What would you suggest in this case?

Thanks once again!

Wozal (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure in this case it's correct to refer to it as the Hilltop Campus until it has the name change. Lets leave as is IAWW (talk) 15:23, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

before Independence Day: Suggest replacing with a time reference that can be understood by people outside of the US IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced with date. Wozal (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Black students at Washington University faced racism, isolation, and harassment, both in academic settings and from campus police: Opinion, attribute or replace with a fact. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Slight background added to replace with fact. Wozal (talk) 17:24, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 15:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

after student Elbert Walton was violently mistreated by campus police: Same as above IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced with detail. Wozal (talk) 17:24, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like the detail IAWW (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University experienced significant student unrest: "significant" is an opinion IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Wozal (talk) 15:02, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

who guided the university through a time of social and financial crisis and improved community relationships: As above IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Wozal (talk) 17:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Under Danforth, Washington University transitioned from a commuter college to a world-renowned institution: Opinion and a very WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim. This should be backed up by several extremely high quality sources or cut, or replaced with a fact. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted.

The original source claims "overseeing its blossoming from a commuter campus into a national research institution" and "transformed from a commuter school into a world-renowned institution". [4]

This source claims "led the university’s metamorphosis from a local college to one of the top 25 universities in the nation."[5]

This source claims "transforming WashU into one of the nation's leading universities during his two-decade tenure." [6]

I don't think these are neccessarily enough to back up that claim fully though. Happy to hear your thoughts @It is a wonderful world, if you think else-wise! Wozal (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree this isn't enough to support the original claim, however I fully support attributing a quote to The New York Times. IAWW (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added attribution. Wozal (talk) 23:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! IAWW (talk) 21:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University's reputation was enhanced by two major fundraising efforts since the 1980s: As above IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Wozal (talk) 17:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

raised $630,500,000 (equivalent to $1,745,048,184 in 2024) million: The equivalent figure should be rounded to the same amount of significant figures as the original. In this case, it should be rounded to 4 significant figures. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing some of these! Wozal (talk) 14:42, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All good, thanks for fixing the rest! IAWW (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

which was then the most successful fund-raising effort in national history: According to what criteria? Otherwise this is an opinion. IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source doesn't clarify details; deleted. Wozal (talk) 17:56, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

raised $1,550,000,000 (equivalent to $2,830,135,266 in 2024): As above IAWW (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed remaining sections with inflation rounding including a part of the 21st century Wozal (talk) 14:47, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you IAWW (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the Center for Advanced Medicine was opened. The Center also included the Siteman Cancer Center: Could you add a bit of context to this, so we aren't just listing buildings? IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted since I realized that Siteman is already covered and a better fit for the Washington University School of Medicine page. Wozal (talk) 18:34, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

an international network of research universities: Could you add what the purpose of this network is? IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 18:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On July 1, 2006, the university began offering free Metro passes—the U Pass—to all full-time students, benefits-eligible faculty and staff, and full-time employees of qualified service providers: Do we know if this is till the case today? If so, state that, otherwise, it is unnecessary detail. IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source and As of Added. Wozal (talk) 17:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice IAWW (talk) 21:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In August 2006, the St. Louis Metro opened the Cross–County extension (renamed the Blue Line) of its light rail MetroLink system. Three of the nine new stations directly serve the university (Skinker, University City-Big Bend, and Forsyth).: Unnecessary detail I think. A much better use of space would be a section on the current transport around the university. While that would be nice to add (it can be seen in the Pomona College article), I don't think it is needed for the broadness requirements for GA. IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Section moved and reworked. Will add additional transportation around campus from what I can find. Wozal (talk) 18:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, I think the section really adds to the article IAWW (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

providing a cost-free undergraduate education to full-time Missouri and southern Illinois students: Surely if they are full-time students, they don't need free undergrad education? IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world; If only that were the case everywhere! In the United States, 43 million Americans owe $1.6T in federal student loans as of 2024.[7] 1,600,000,000,000/43,000,000=$37,209.3023 The average American with student loans owe $37,209. Not all of it is undergraduate loans of course but very few need-blind colleges exist within the U.S. Wozal (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with your sentiment, I think you mis-interpreted my point – but on second thought, I think the test is sufficiently clear and I was reading it weirdly. Free higher education is rare here in the UK too... maybe even rarer than the US. We need to move to Sweden... IAWW (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pell Grant-eligible: Explanation needed IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation added; though I feel it's a bit long. I'm not sure if there's any way I can shorten it though. Wozal (talk) 17:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"federal money that helps low-income students pay for college and doesn’t need to be repaid" could be shortened to "federal grants for low-income students' higher education". "grant" implies it doesn't need to be repaid. IAWW (talk) 21:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bit of WP:OVERKILL at the end of this paragraph. Are all the refs needed or can the less reliable ones be removed? IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reduced to 2. Wozal (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

and the second 2016 Presidential debate on October 9: Same here IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reduced. Wozal (talk) 18:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest combining the two paragraphs about financials. IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 18:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In March 2024, Washington University agreed to purchase the campus of neighboring Fontbonne University when it closes in 2025: I think the exact date of when they agreed to buy it is unnecessary detail. Could you combine this and the following sentence with an eye for conciseness? IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Combined Wozal (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 21:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University has been selected by the Commission on Presidential Debates to host more presidential and vice presidential debates than any other institution in history: This is supported by a citation from 2022. Are we sure this is still the case as of 2025? If so, there should be a more recent citation. IAWW (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fear going into Wikipedia:OR territory on this one, but here's what I found.

Per this 2015 article, "Washington University in St. Louis has hosted three presidential and one vice presidential debate–by far the most of any campus. Wake Forest and Hofstra University have both hosted two presidential debates, and Centre College in Danville, Ky., has hosted two vice presidential debates."[8]

In 2016, Washington University hosted its 3rd presidential debate per this source in the current article.[9]

Per this 2016 article, the 3 colleges that hosted presidential debates (besides Washington University (4)) were: Wright State University (1), University of Nevada (Las Vegas) (1) and Longwood University (1).[10]

In the 2020 United States presidential election, it appears that some sites were moved around. Hosts included Case Western Reserve University (1), Belmont University (1) and University of Utah(1).

The Commission on Presidential Debates list 2020 as its last year on Presidential Debates. I was trying to figure out why 2024 wasn't listed but then stumbled upon the wiki page for Commission on Presidential Debates. Both candidates apparently made a deal with each other to not use the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Should I add an As Of template to this one? Wozal (talk) 17:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I think "as of" would be appropriate. IAWW (talk) 19:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal Comments on the reliability, health and formatting of references are below, and there are some comments about the infobox in the lead section of the prose review. IAWW (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world Thank you! I've made the changes requested with the lead, sources, and infobox. Wozal (talk) 21:36, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting the cutting of the middle man that happened here. To be honest, I don't really see why the Commission was needed in the first place. IAWW (talk) 21:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Board is responsible for the fiduciary oversight and strategic governance of the university and The Board is responsible for guiding institutional policy, providing oversight, and voting on major decisions can be merged for conciseness IAWW (talk) 08:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merged Wozal (talk) 14:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alumni status is not a requirement for serving on the Board: Excessive detail I think IAWW (talk) 08:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 14:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What does the chancellor do in this case? IAWW (talk) 08:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added a section and a source to address this Wozal (talk) 14:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Under Martin's leadership, the School of Continuing & Professional Studies was restructured to offer more accessible pathways to higher education, and both the WashU Pledge and Heartland Initiative were launched to recruit high-achieving students from Missouri and southern Illinois, with the aim of retaining talent in the region following graduation: I think this should be moved to the history section, it's not really the information people will be coming to this section for. IAWW (talk) 08:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world: Thank you for all your comments on this. I have now changed information as requested. Since you've started your original review on this, I think 1,000 words were added! Wozal (talk) 14:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot! You have been so great at addressing my points. Thanks. IAWW (talk) 14:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its endowment ranks it among the top 15 university endowments: Globally or in the US? IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed to clarify United States, per article.

Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how that would compare globally, but found no such articles containing all information.

In my wikipedia searches, I found a List of Canadian universities by endowment, a List of universities in the United Kingdom by endowment, and Lists of institutions of higher education by endowment size.

Only King Abdullah University of Science and Technology with an endowment of $20B USD was bigger than Washington University. I was shocked to learn that Oxford (including all of its colleges) endowment was only £8.708B (or 11.59B USD). In terms of endowments, these are the only two that would rank in the top 20 of List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment if it were made into a global endowment list. Wozal (talk) 17:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting! It appears colleges need to be much more independent of the government in the US, so it's quite impressive they have flourished so well in the last century. IAWW (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its endowment is managed by Washington University Management Company: Needs a bit more context to be meaningful. You could also cut it though. IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted; I think it feels like a much more readable paragraph now. Wozal (talk) 17:51, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I think it reads well. IAWW (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its operating budget for the 2023‍–‍2024 academic year was $259 million and As of Fiscal Year 2024, it has an operating budget of $5.23 billion seem to directly contradict each other. IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed per source! Wozal (talk) 17:26, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

$68,240 per student: That's insanely high wow IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very high and even at the price isn't among the 10 highest priced private universities in the United States.[11] Wozal (talk) 17:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

:O IAWW (talk) 21:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

Looks good :)

Washington University obtained Tyson in 1963: For how much? I also think this should have a mention in the history section. IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world:

I think I've managed to address all your edits today! Looking forward to your future suggestions!

Since Tyson doesn't appear to me to be more prominent than other centers or institutes at Washington University, I deleted that section and added a wikilink to it in the “See also” section alongside the others.

However, I found that the site was used by the military for ordnance storage, so I added that detail under the page for Tyson Research Center. It’s possible the land was declared surplus before being acquired, but since surplus property transfers aren’t always well documented, I didn’t want to add speculation. No price was listed.

Happy to reconsider if you disagree. Wozal (talk) 19:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice I like what you did here IAWW (talk) 21:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In 2010, its Living Learning Center became one of the first two buildings in the United States accredited as a "living building" under the Living Building Challenge: Needs context, I have no clue what this means. IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Searched for additional information; couldn't really find any information other than it being another environmental program run by a nonprofit company for better energy efficiency. Seemed like an excessive detail to me so I moved it to the main page for Tyson Research Center. Wozal (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yep I agree that's the solution IAWW (talk) 21:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

What does "most selective" mean? Is it the highest rank/category? IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I looked through the sources and realized this didn't impart any knowledge. Admit rate and stats which were listed did a much better job of conveying the needed information so I deleted the "most selective" part. Wozal (talk) 18:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 21:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is an "ACT range" and "SAT range"? IAWW (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded Wozal (talk) 18:27, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add what the average scores across the US for these tests are? It would help the reader understand that the admitted ACT and SAT scores are exceptionally high. IAWW (talk) 12:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded to include averages and also where the score ranges fall overall. Wozal (talk) 15:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice IAWW (talk) 21:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This document was posted in Warwick, Rhode Island, and is signed on the back by the town clerk at the time: Unnecessary detail I think IAWW (talk) 12:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 15:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is part of the university's Special Collections. The Southwick Broadside was donated to the university in 2015: These two sentences can be combined and made more concise. IAWW (talk) 12:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Combined Wozal (talk) 15:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

and 17th by The Wall Street Journal in their 2022 rankings: Can be updated IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Updated per infobox; but I can't get the two to match with the same source. Wozal (talk) 20:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In its 2022 edition, Princeton Review: Update IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Wozal (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

as a "Colleges That Create Futures" and of having a great quality of life: A bit unnecessary detail I think – we wouldn't want to include everything that every ranking said about the university. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In January 2020, Olin Business School was named the Poets&Quants MBA Program of 2019: A bit out of date. Update or remove. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University was named one of the "25 New Ivies" by Newsweek in 2006: Out of date. I think this section should be reserved for strictly up to date data, since that is what readers probably want. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted; as far as I can tell, this is the only time that Newsweek published such a list. As such, it feels too much like a one time random listicle to me. Wozal (talk) 15:29, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree IAWW (talk) 21:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In Howard and Matthew Greene's 2016 Edition of The Hidden Ivies, 63 of America's Top Liberal Arts Colleges and Universities, Washington University was called a Hidden Ivy: I think this should be moved to the history section, since it is notable but quite old. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've reworded this a bit for its current section. 2016 was the last time the book was published and it's the 3rd print for this book with criteria laid out. I'm not sure I'd classify this as a historical milestone for the university though. Let me know if you want this to be reworked or if you think it should be deleted overall. Wozal (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like your rewording and am happy for this to stay in this section IAWW (talk) 21:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world: What an adventure this has been but I think I got through your very helpful suggestions! I've cleaned up a few other things (including some spacing issues; the right alignment didn't want to initially behave with the text so I've added a few more rankings to balance everything out in the sidebar then fixed the archived dates on them! Wozal (talk) 04:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal I am passing on prose! I forgot about the spot check earlier, so I'm doing that now. That is the final step. IAWW (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Private New Ivies list: What is this list? IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded Wozal (talk) 16:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In 2014, a study ranked Washington University first in the country for income inequality[1] with approximately 22 percent of its students coming from the top 1 percent of earners, and about 6 percent from the bottom 60 percent.[2][3][4] In response to criticism, the university committed to increase the percentage of Pell-eligible students on campus from 6 percent to 13 percent by 2020.[3][5][6] The university achieved that goal three years early, and as of 2022, 19.9 percent of undergraduate students were eligible for Pell Grants, representing a 300 percent increase since 2012: Notable again, but I think it would fit better in the history section. The 2022 data could be in both sections briefly. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 21:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good IAWW (talk) 21:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The American Talent Initiative: Is this a notable organisation? If not, I think this information should be cut entirely. If not, it could be moved to the history section. IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't appear to have its own wikipage.

Deleted. Wozal (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The college is a top producer of Fulbright scholars: Can you be a bit more specific? IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added a bit more specificity using Pomona College article as a guideline. Wozal (talk) 22:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The table "School Rankings":

• Some of the archives for the references link to old versions of the lists
• The table could be made more concise if the caption was "School Rankings according to the U.S. News & World Report" and then cut "U.S. News & World Report" in every row
• Could it then be moved to the side, to prevent causing all the white space? IAWW (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up and added note on medical. Wozal (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world:

I hope I managed to address everything! I see a few short sections coming up. Happy to add a "See also" section to Colleges and Schools if you think that makes more sense overall after reviewing! (I've noticed a number of universities don't include these as standalone sections with some incorporating it into their Campus section.) Happy to do whatever you think works best. Wozal (talk) 00:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The many section names and hatnotes do take up a lot of space. I don't see it as a major issue, but perhaps you could see if a structure like this works:

• College of Arts & Sciences – Home to the university's largest undergraduate program, providing students selection of courses across more than 50 disciplines, including anthropology, chemistry, English, the performing arts and women, gender and sexuality studies
• George Warren Brown School of Social Work – Founded in 1925, the school was endowed by Bettie Bofinger Brown and named for her husband, George Warren Brown, a St. Louis philanthropist and co-founder of the Brown Shoe Company. In 1948, it became the first school at Washington University to admit Black students

IAWW (talk) 08:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll hold of on reviewing this section in case you change the formatting. To be honest, having seen an example, it seems it would look quite nice as a bulleted list. IAWW (talk) 08:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal Comments for the rest of the sections are below IAWW (talk) 09:52, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world - I agree; I think it looks much cleaner. I moved photos to the bottom so it stayed within the section and didn't disrupt the text and create additional whitespace. I also moved the School of Dental Medicine out because it's not an active school and we don't mention other closed schools in that section. Wozal (talk) 15:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bulleted Wozal (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since the text has been made more concise, the tables on the right have got in each other's way. Could you make them all flush right? IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And to the right it went! Wozal (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, It looks better, though I think it's still a little ugly the way the different width tables mesh with the prose. Though, that is definitely beyond GA critieria so don't worry abt it. IAWW (talk) 21:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University is classified among "R1: Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity".:

• By whom?
• I would cut at least the first part of the quote, and paraphrase it in less technical terms the reader will be able to better understand.
• Is "R1" the highest rank? IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded in the body. Wozal (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Washington University prioritizes undergraduate research, with: Can cut this and the paragraph still retains its meaning. You could compare to the national average to make the point extra clear and precise. I also think this should be joined with the previous paragraph IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted; dug deeper and no indication of how research was defined. Wozal (talk) 00:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In fiscal year 2023, Washington University spent $1.169 billion on research and development, placing it among the top university research performers according to the National Science Foundation: The ranking wasn't on how they "performed", but on how much they spent. Also, you could replace "among the top" with where they actually ranked for better info and less opinion. IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded to be more straightforward. Wozal (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In 2022, Washington University developed a nasal vaccine aimed at addressing COVID-19: Could you add a brief sentence on how widely this was adopted? IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded with some information, but numbers could not be found. Happy to move this into the School of Medicine page if that's more fitting. Wozal (talk) 15:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No I think it should be included. It's very relevant. Don't worry about finding numbers. IAWW (talk) 21:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the first update in a century: Update from what. Were they digitized before? IAWW (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded a bit to explain Wozal (talk) 13:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's nicely worded, however it appears you accidentally put it in a bullet point! IAWW (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very well written, relevant and well laid out. Nice work. IAWW (talk) 20:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you move the student demographics table into the correct section? IAWW (talk) 08:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved up! Wozal (talk) 21:52, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

housed in the $43 million Danforth University Center: The cost of the building is unnecessary detail IAWW (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 12:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Danforth Campus, also dedicated in honor of emeritus Chancellor William Henry Danforth: Repeated information I think IAWW (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Wozal (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The building opened on August 11, 2008: Unnecessary detail, at least for this section IAWW (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to another article to preserve source. Wozal (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think some readers won't know that "Greek" refers to fraternities and sororities IAWW (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to refer consistently to as fraternities and sororities. Wozal (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the paragraphs need separate subheadings IAWW (talk) 09:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted subheadings. Wozal (talk) 12:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I thought "underclassmen" and "upperclassmen" were initially talking about students wealth! If you could change the wording a little to be more understandable to people outside the US that would be great. IAWW (talk) 09:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to years and then added undergraduates to the phrasing because I realized that it could otherwise refer to students in grad school. Wozal (talk) 12:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it can all just be combined into one paragraph. IAWW (talk) 09:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Wozal (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

Looks good :)

Looks good :)

Looks good :)

22,500 employees: Do you mean "previous" employees? IAWW (talk) 09:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source says in fiscal year 2024, so I've changed it to be the 22,530 mentioned and added an as of to the sentence for clarification! Wozal (talk) 12:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

alumni include Nobel laureates such as: This implies there was more than the three listed. Is this the case? If not, the wording needs to be changed. IAWW (talk) 09:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

26 in total as shown on this page: List of Nobel laureates affiliated with Washington University in St. Louis as alumni or faculty Wozal (talk) 12:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for somehow missing this obvious hatnote IAWW (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, that article is a featured list which is cool! IAWW (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

So that we don't get confused with the ref numbers changing, from now on when I include a reference number I am referring to this version. Old reference numbers have been struck though

Formatting is fine for GA.

[265] now redirects to a YT channel IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @It is a wonderful world, by chance can you pinpoint me to the section this source impacts? I've clicked around a few links and can't figure out which link is redirecting to a YT channel. Thanks! Wozal (talk) 17:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[6] can be cut, but if not it needs a page number

[13] needs a page number

[56], [79], [107], [259], [272] now redirect to YT channels

[104] is broken for me, also "landmarkhunter.com" doesn't sound like it's anything more than a blog.

[173] needs a page number

[185] needs a page number

That's all the issues I could find with the reference reliability and formatting. That means the prose is the only part left to review. IAWW (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reference point!

13- Source replaced; page number added.

56 – replaced

79 -  Deleted; reworded to be more straightforward without source.

104 – deleted

107- Replaced with alternate source which appears to be the original reporting

178 - (I think this is what you meant from 173 based on missing page) Found source. The statement says something on how it’s “believed to be…”. Deleted.

185-  added preface page number

259 – deleted and replaced with different source and individual

272 - deleted Wozal (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[160]: HuffPost is generally not considered reliable for political topics ([WP:RSP]), and diversity is one of them right now. This source should be removed. IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

HuffPost has now been replaced. Wozal (talk) 16:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[264]: TechCrunch is a questionable source (WP:RSP). The contributor could have a conflict of interest here, and it is not clear whether they are staff or not. I would recommend removing this, though it is borderline. IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TechCrunch has now been replaced by a previous source in the article. Wozal (talk) 16:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spot check reference numbers based on this version.

[5]: Y

[24]: Y

[29]: N IAWW (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @It is a wonderful world, I'm a bit confused by this one! Please let me know if I'm missing something!

This source is currently supporting the following statement:[12]

The seal is made up of elements from the Washington family coat of arms, an open book representing a university (previously book, changed to university to better match the source. I think this might have caused the mismatch?) and the symbol of Louis IX, whom the city is named after. In 1915, The university’s adopted its motto is Per veritatem vis, which translates to "Strength through truth".

This information can be found by scrolling down the page to "WashU History FAQS" and clicking on "What are the symbols in the university’s shield?" and "What is the university’s motto?" Wozal (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, apologies, I missed the FAQ IAWW (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[36]: Y

[46]: Y

[59]: N IAWW (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced source; though with a primary one. Wozal (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[63]: N Doesn't support "Initially, it began with 15 partner institutions in Asia" IAWW (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found the source in the sentence before and added it Wozal (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[71]: Y This source about DEI policy was literally taken down a few days ago. Is this the effects of politics in real time?! The archived version works. IAWW (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[84]: Y

[113]: Y

[134]: Y

[144]: Y nice work adding all these extra rankings. I think they really add to the section.

[160]: Y

[169]: Y

[181]: Y

[198]: Y

[208]: Y

[225]: Y

[239]: Y

[289]: Y

[290]: Y

Earwig finds one too-close paraphrasing issue. I'll check for any too close paraphrasing with the print sources on the spot check. IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded slightly to help fix this. Wozal (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A section on the colleges finances I think is quite important for broadness. It should at least include:

• Current total endowment
• Most recent budget figures
• Value of assets
• Most recent tuition fees

This section of an FA university article can form a good template. IAWW (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wozal The only important piece of financial information we are now missing is the current total value of assets. Can you find any source for this? IAWW (talk) 20:37, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world I added this link [13] which as of now seems to be the most recent document I could find and I think is the same source that Pomona College has in their article. Happy to update when the next report comes out; unless you'd like me to try to find a different source? Wozal (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's a great source. No need to find anything more recent. Note there is a good template for this: Template:As of, which can be used to add the article to a category of articles containing statements which will likely become dated in the future. Editors can then just go through this category updating statements like this. IAWW (talk) 21:10, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The current "Organization and administration" section might as well be called "History of the organization and administration" right now, it needs to be changed to describe how the university currently runs. IAWW (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well done for adding so much good information on the current organisational structure. The mix between the historical information in the section and the current information is very disjointed though, I suggest moving all the historical information to the history section. Also, I assume the college has a President? Some information about this position and the current holder should be included. IAWW (talk) 20:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Historical information from this section has now been moved!

The college's chancellor (which is equivalent to the president -- I'll never fully understand why each college calls their executive position something else) is now mentioned in the Governance section! Wozal (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my gosh I concur it's so confusing. Thanks for doing all this. Good luck with the lead. IAWW (talk) 21:32, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The tag is wrong on File:WUFranGat.JPG, this should have an own work tag, not a public domain tag saying it is from before 1930.

File:Francis Field 1904.jpg needs a tag explaining why it is public domain in the US

File:Roger Nash Baldwin.jpg should have a public domain tag, not a creative commons tag

I think dates should be added to the building images. IAWW (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @It is a wonderful world,

Thanks for taking another look at this.

I've added a tag explaining why File:Francis Field 1904.jpg is public domain in the U.S. and a public domain tag to File:Roger Nash Baldwin.jpg. I'm not sure which tag specifically to add to File:WUFranGat.JPG. Uploader of that image appears to have last been active in 2010. I have since replaced that image with this one which appears to be in the public domain: File:Washington University bookplate.png. Given the time period, I imagine that was closer to what became the basis for the seal as described to the left of the image. Let me know if you'd to take a different option to restore the former. I've also added years to images when possible. When not possible, I tried to add the year the building was built without introducing any new information not already in the article.

As requested, I've added a section on the college's finances per 3A and 3B and moved some material into other sections to give that a bit more balance and to stay better focused on that section.

Thanks again,

Wozal (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh fantastic work so quick! I'll try and continue the review tomorrow. IAWW (talk) 21:18, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A map similar to Pomona_College#Campus would be really cool. IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are many duplicated citations for the books, which have everything the same except different page numbers. This is very messy. Note this is not a problem for GA criteria, but are you happy for me to convert them to sfns to prevent duplicated info? An example of what it would look like is Matthew Webb. IAWW (talk) 11:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd welcome the conversion to sfns to prevent duplicated information! On my end, I just wanted to ensure that the proper pages were noted for where exactly the information came from. Wozal (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the references include the direct quotes from the source, but most don't. Generally this sort of thing should be consistent. I recommend cutting all the quotes to save some space. IAWW (talk) 11:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Consider it done! Wozal (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

$185,000: You can use the Template:Inflation to add modern day equivalents to these old monetary amounts, which adds context. IAWW (talk) 10:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template added Wozal (talk) 14:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Minor points – I recommend you do not fix these (it will take you like 6 hours), but keep them in mind for future writings:

• Some refs are not archived
• There is some inconsistent linking of publishers and various other problems and inconsistencies with reference formatting IAWW (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I managed to remove the linking of publishers for most but I can't find a way to edit the linking of publishers in the "Academics Ranking" box. Is there a way to do so? Wozal (talk) 21:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sections after "History" are very reliant on primary sourcing. I don't think it's severe enough for GA, but replacing primary sourcing with secondary reliable sourcing would be a great improvement. IAWW (talk) 09:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]