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The result was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Reywas92^Talk 13:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT and the Olympic Games (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Main article is LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games. I'm not sure why this page would be needed just for some links, all of which are in the main article. Any additional content can go there as well, this is superfluous. Reywas92^Talk 19:27, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Reywas92^Talk 19:27, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move to draft if Another Believer wants to continue to expand it. This is nowhere near ready for main space. Gonnym (talk) 19:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this should be more of a discussion about the scope/title of the 'parent' article. To me, a lot of the content in LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games aren't "issues". I was attempting to create a parent article that didn't present all things LGBT as "issues". In my opinion, at minimum the Success, Visibility and recognition, and Overview of LGBTQ+ Olympics sections could be moved over to LGBT and the Olympic Games. Or, if we're to keep a single page for the intersection of LGBT and the Olympics, then I suggest we rename LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming that article makes more sense than two overlapping articles, certainly more than creating a page of only links in mainspace. This article's title makes even less sense since LGBT is an adjective and shouldn't stand alone. Reywas92^Talk 20:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If notability is not the issue, then this discussion is not necessary. If you're willing to withdraw this nomination and propose a rename/move at LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games, then I'd be more comfortable redirecting LGBT and the Olympic Games. "Issues" is the most irksome bit, IMO. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(This comment is kind of, train of thought, so apologies:) I have to say, if I had done it, I would have just incorporated the info on drag into the main article where it fitted - I did raise some concerns at the drag and the Olympic Games talkpage including that drag + Olympics doesn't seem to be defined as a topic, so IDK whether it effectively should exist separately, which is kind of the only missing link of related content at the main article. Of course, whether incorporating the drag examples into the history sections or adding a section, I would agree that this is something that can be done at the main article and not a secondary page that is currently just a collection of links. I would suggest redirecting LGBT and the Olympic Games to LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games. Of course, improving the coverage overall is my (everyone's?) main priority, so if you have ideas for renaming the main article or proposals for logical splits, very happy to hear them. In the links template, the main article is "History and issues", would that (or just 'history' to replace 'issues') work? Kingsif (talk) 20:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif Above, I have proposed closing this discussion (notability is not the issue here) and starting a rename / move discussion re: LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games, before redirecting LGBT and the Olympic Games. Would this work for you? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that works. If there's no further participation, I don't think anyone would mind Reywas withdrawing the AfD. Kingsif (talk) 21:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then, User:Reywas92, will you please withdraw? This was never necessary. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This link-only page and your undoing my redirect of it was never necessary but yes I will close this and re-redirect. Reywas92^Talk 13:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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