Sat Jan 25: Wikipedia Day NYC 2025

January 25: Wikipedia Day
Brooklyn Central Library

You are invited to Wikipedia Day 2025, hosted by Wikimedia NYC at the Brooklyn Public Library's central branch.

The special focus this year will be the launch of our "400 Neighborhoods" campaign for the city's 400th anniversary and WikiProject New York City/400 Task Force.

We'll also have a lightning talks session and you're invited to sign up for one, though space is somewhat limited.

  • Saturday, January 25, 2025
    12:00 pm – 5:00 pm
    Brooklyn Central Library, Grand Army Plaza
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NPP Awards for 2024

The New Page Reviewer's NPP Barnstar Award

This award is given in recognition to Jweiss11 for conducting 261 article reviews in 2024. Thank you so much for all your excellent work. Keep it up! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

JUCO standings

Hey there, Jweiss11. I hope you're well. I was doing some research and came across different versions of the 1961 South Central Conference (California) football standings, which has Southwestern's record as 2–7–1 (2–2–1 SCC). Their conference record is confirmed here, but their overall record is reported as 2–6–1 here and here, and it looks like the rest of the league played nine games each as well, according to the LA Times standings. Do you think there could be a missing game? JTtheOG (talk) 21:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

JTtheOG, how's it going? Looks like that was probably just a typo/error by me. I've changed Southwestern's overall record to 2–6–1. Thanks for catching that! Jweiss11 (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, thank you for all the work you've done on JUCO football. It's been really helpful for the article I'm working on at the moment which, speaking of, I was hoping you could help me iron out some of the details for. Some of the conference stuff can get tricky at this level, as you're surely well aware of. JTtheOG (talk) 07:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Preseason scrimmage

Hey there. Hope you don't mind a quick question. In a team's schedule, how would you present a preseason scrimmage where "both teams managed just one touchdown apiece"? Would you report that as a a scoreless tie or with no result at all? Maybe a hatnote with the quote? Lmk what you think. JTtheOG (talk) 08:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work on the Southwester Apaches/Jaguars stuff. I think what you did with the scrimmage at 1982 Southwestern Apaches football team is fine. You could note the 0–0 score in the table. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Your edits and feedback, or even just a second set of eyes, will always be much appreciated. JTtheOG (talk) 21:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The John Gagliardi Memorial Award

The John Gagliardi Memorial Award
I, WikiOriginal-9, hereby present the John Gagliardi Memorial Award to undisputably the greatest college football coaching editor of all time, Jonathan M. Weiss, alias Jweiss11. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Haha. Very creative. Thanks! Jweiss11 (talk) 21:36, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see where the above article's AfD resulted in a merge close but nothing was actually merged? Maybe someone could add it to the 1919 article like you said in the AfD? Just FYI if you want to pursue. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and merged it to 1919. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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February 19: WikiWednesday Salon

February 19: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
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Coaching record table

Hey Jweiss, I hope you're doing well. How would one apply all those pretty colors to a coaching record table? JTtheOG (talk) 23:49, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See my edit just now at Ed Carberry. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Factual error, Bucky Freeman football coaching record

Jweiss11: I am the third son of Ben Light, who was born as Benard L. Pismanoff in Brooklyn in 1911, and attended Ithaca College from 1932 to 1936. There are ample reliable sources which establish, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Bucky Freeman contracted typhoid fever in early September, 1935. The illness kept him away from Ithaca for the entire semester. He recuperated at the home of his mother-in-law in Fort Edward, NY. In his place, and at his suggestion, Bucky Freeman was replaced as coach of the 1935 varsity football team by Benny Pismanoff, who guided the team to a 4-1-1 record, scoring 121 points and surrendering 27 points, ranking 3rd in the Northeast.

I have articles from "The Ithacan," the Ithaca College newspaper, the "Ithaca Journal," the local daily paper in Ithaca New York, the "Albany Evening News," a daily in Albany, NY, and a couple of pages from a book by Isadore "Doe" Yavits called "The Ithaca College of My Time," which all confirm these facts.

Benny Pismanoff was a student of James A. "Bucky" Freeman, and of "Doe" Yavits, at Albany High School from 1925 through the spring of 1930. He lettered in football, basketball, and baseball at Albany High for four years, and was captain of the 1928-29 basketball team coached by Yavits which won the NY State Class A basketball championship in March, 1929.

After teaching physical education and coaching football, basketball, and baseball at Vincentian Institute in Albany for two years right out of high school, Pismanoff followed Yavits and Freeman to Ithaca College where he won varsity letters for four years in football, basketball and baseball. He changed his name in June, 1937 to Ben Light. The gym in the Phys. Ed building is named the Ben Light Gymnasium in his honor.

My father deserves a Wikipedia page for his life's devotion to athletics and Ithaca College, but for now I would appreciate it if you could correct the error in the Bucky Freeman football coaching record in his Wikipedia page. I knew Bucky Freeman, and I know he would appreciate the correction as well. Let me know and I can email you PDF copies of the reliable sources.

With warmest regards,

Chuck Light CLLight (talk) 03:38, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chuck, thanks for the heads up on this. Yes, I see lots of coverage about your father in The Ithaca Journal ([1], [2], and [3]). Looks like Freeman and your father are credited as co-head coaches for the 1935 football season by Ithaca (see here) and your father was also head basketball coach from 1945 to 1952; see here. I will create an article! Jweiss11 (talk) 04:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I hope this reaches you, because I wanted to send you an attachment providing a full history of my father's athletic, teaching, coaching, officiating, and administrative life, but I don't know how to attach things on your talk page, if that is even possible.
I hope you know how pleased I was to read the words "I will write an article!" At the same time, however, I was concerned that you pointed out the IC coaching history which lists my father and Bucky Freeman as "co-coaches." They were not co-coaches in any sense of the word. Bucky Freeman was in Ft. Edward, NY, +/- 200 miles from Ithaca, and Ben Pismanoff was in Ithaca. No cell phones, no "Zoom," cars could travel at best about 40 miles per hour. How could they be "co-coaches" if they had no means to communicate.
The fact is that Bucky Freeman was totally out of the picture in the fall of 1935, and Benny Pismanoff could only rely on what Bucky had taught him about football, in four years at Albany High and in three years at IC, and use that knowledge to assemble and build a team which performed at a mininum admirably. What I hope is that at a minimum you will correct the Freeman Wikipedia page to indicate that Freeman did not coach, or "co-coach" the 1935 football team, and that Ben Pismanoff (in June 1937 changed to Light) did. That would require an adjustment in Freeman's overall IC football record by subtracting four wins, one loss, and one tie, and crediting them to the lifetime football coaching record (one year) for Ben Pismanoff Light.
If I knew how I would attach an eight page history in Word format which sets forth my father's life as an athlete, coach, teacher, basketball official (he officiated games with many of the best -- Sam Schoenfeld, Dallas Shirley, Lou Eisenstein, John Nucatola, etc.) and college administrator. The history includes what I believe Wikipedia defines as "reliable sources," as far as I could find them.
I will copy this to a reply to your last response, and I want you to know that I truly appreciate the interest you have shown.
Chuck Light CLLight (talk) 18:07, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chuck, I've kicked off the article for your father at Ben Light (coach). Note there is another notable Ben Light, Ben Light (pianist), also a New Yorker who lived around the same time. As for the 1935 coaching records, I know under NCAA rules, in cases when a permanent head coach is absent or suspended, but still employed by the school, discretion is given to school regarding who is the official coach of record, the absent permanent coach, the acting/interim coach, or both. For example, Mike Krzyzewski missed a smattering of Duke basketball games due to illness in the 2000s, but was credited as the head coach of record for all those games, even though guys like Jeff Capel III were actually coaching the team during those games. However, when Krzyzewski missed most of the 1994–95 season, those games were credited to Pete Gaudet. Similarly, Jim Harbaugh was suspended for six games during the 2023 Michigan football season. The first three games he missed in September were credited to Sherrone Moore, Jay Harbaugh, Jesse Minter, Mike Hart. But second set of three games Harbaugh missed in November were credited to his record, not Moore's, even thought Moore led the team on the sidelines. Now, I'm not even sure if Ithaca was a NCAA member in 1935, or if much technical consideration is given to records from nearly 100 years ago, but Ithaca College appears to credit Light and Freeman as co-coaches for 1935. If you have an issue with that, you should contact the Ithaca College athletic department. Justin Lutes is probably the person you want to start with. At any rate, I'd love to see the documentation you have about your father. There is no way to attach that stuff here, but you can email me if you click on the "Email this user" link in the left-hand menu. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 02:08, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jessica?

When I Google Jweiss11, now there is an "AI overview" that says "Jweiss11 is the online handle of Jessica Weiss, a Wikipedia editor. In March 2024, she was named Editor of the Week on Wikipedia's WikiProject Editor Retention page." What the heck? That is a little disconcerting. You're not even a public figure or anything. Why would a random Pinterest page of someone else and a Wikipedia project page cause an AI overview to appear. I thought that was only for noteworthy stuff... ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno. First day on the internet? :) I wouldn't worry about it! Jweiss11 (talk) 01:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not worried JW, just thought it was interesting. You're the first editor I've seen with an AI overview. I've sampled some other editors and not even the ones who have Wikipedia articles like Koavf have AI overviews. I guess you are noteworthy. We all know who the real Jonathan M. Weiss is. ;)
Also, the AI bot might have noticed my comment or something because Jessica isn't in the overview anymore... lol. Now it just says Jweiss11. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno if I've done this before for you, but it really doesn't matter

The Original Barnstar
Your ongoing, continued, outstanding work on football topics is epic. Thank you so much for that. It makes life so much easier for dorks like me that fill in behind you. Keep plowing, plowhorse! —tim ///// Carrite (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mission Conference standings

Is there any reason you skipped over the 1993 season when making the Category:Mission Conference football standings templates? I think it's the only one missing from 1968-2001. I found the final 1993 standings here and would be happy to create the missing template in any case. Just thought to check with you first. JTtheOG (talk) 08:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect I skipped over it because I couldn't find a good reference. Thanks for finding that listing! I will make a template for 1993. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're too quick for me. Thanks as always. JTtheOG (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

You are a good writer. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Independent templates with column for "conference" record

While working today on 1984 Rutgers Scarlet Knights football team, I came across Template:1984 Major eastern college football independents records which includes a completed "conference" record column. I said to myself, "Huh? How can independents have conference records?" There appears to be a run of these from 1981 through 1990, created by User:Blake675. Do you have better insight into this? Cbl62 (talk) 14:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've been aware of these since around when they were created last year. This is one of a number of items I've been meaning to bring up for discussion at WT:CFB. I think I have a seen a newspaper or two present this sort of standings list with records of the major eastern independents against one another, as if it the were in a conference. But there surely was no conference there. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Light

JWeiss11: Going through stuff on my father's page, I noticed that Reference 6 is the same as Reference 3, despite their being different titles for the articles they are linked to. Looking at the Reference source code (don't ask how I learned to do that, I do not know), I noticed that the "article" number is the same. I assume that if the article number for Reference 6 is corrected then the title should link to the correct clipping.

BTW, I have no idea how to link titles to references that I add to the article (I think it has to do with "image" URL and "clip" URL), which is why my titles do not link to my clippings. Is there a way I can do it as a novice? Or do I have to wait until I can become a WP Library member and get full access to Newspapers.com, or am I saving my clippings improperly so that they are not "clip" but instead are "image" URLS?

WTF, this is hard stuff! CLLight (talk) 19:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get back to you before. I was offline most of the weekend up through last night. Looks like you've figured all this out now. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. OriginalWiki-9 pointed out that I was using the wrong URL (print page rather than browser address bar), and the rest was easy-peasy. I even went back into Newspapers.com (my 7 day free trial ends tomorrow) and found the clipping you meant to use on fn. 6, and corrected that as well. The only fn. title I can't link to the source article is fn. is fn. 29, because it is from geneologybank.com and I used the print page URL for that. Some day I will try to sneak back into that site and see if I can correct that last fn.
Thanks again for all of your help!
CLLight CLLight (talk) 22:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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