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October 2024 edits
We must be mindful of the WP:BLP policies here. An entire section on "controversy" with only a single, far-fetched example, is in absolutely no way shape or form due weight for this article. Those wishing to include this content need to come up with solid, policy-based arguments as to why in order to have any chance at seeking a consensus for inclusion. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)17:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The material showed no actual controversy, and as listed made false claims, taking a single persons unquoted statement and putting it as a quote from plural "staff members". I have again removed it; it should not be readded until consensus to do so has been found. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 18:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just for the discussion record, the material was originally inserted in May 2021 by an IP editor who has not edited from that IP since that month. They cannot reasonably be contacted for involvement in this discussion. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:56, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd add that something being said I'm parliament definitely does not establish due weight. Nor does being mentioned in a single media outlet. Especially not for someone with as hig a profile as Carney. Also "international" needs to be put in context here. While a report on something happening in the UK from Canada may be international in someways, it was about a Canadian who'd worked in the Canadian government in senior roles for nearly 10 years so was actually not so international by that token. You get the same thing with Kiwis outside NZ often being reported on in NZ. So I definitely see no evidence that WP:due weight has been established. 06:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC) Nil Einne (talk) 06:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn't notice there were two different disputes and misread the reference to Global News to refer to international news outlets rather than a specific media outlet. So part of my comment was irrelevant and I've struck. However my main point still stands. And having looked at the source, it's even worse than that. This is barely a report and hardly qualifies as secondary source. It's a clip of various things said in parliament, the only non primary or "reporting" element of it appears to be the editing and that Youtube description and title. Nil Einne (talk) 10:11, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As for the Bank of England stuff, again it's only one source from the time this happened. But in many ways this is even worse since that was a long time ago now and Carney's tenure at the Bank of England has ended so it's far easy to evaluate long term significance. Are there more sources especially more recent sources that establish this was a significant part of Carney's tenure at the Bank of England? Did this have any significant effect on his tenure e.g. did he fail to get his contract renewed or was his it ended early because of it? Was he required to attend some sort of training or were his interactions with staff managed because of this? Has it been claimed this affected his work at the Bank of England in some other way? If none of these are the case, I don't see that it's due. Nil Einne (talk) 10:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was sure I read something else and have now found it again [1]. I'll keep my earlier comment struck since it was conflating two different things but I'll remake it here with minor rewording. Regarding the "overseas editor of a major daily" point, while a report on something happening in the UK from Canada may be overseas, it was about a Canadian who'd worked in the Canadian government in senior roles for nearly 10 years so their interest it in is unsurprising. So the fact it was "overseas editor" doesn't significantly add to due weight. You get the same thing with Kiwis outside NZ often being reported on in NZ. In fact, since he's now somewhat involved in Canada again and was apparently also involved with the UK for some time after his tenure ended, this means there are at least two countries with a lot of media outlets where anything significant about his time at the Bank Of England is likely to be reported on. If you can't find anything after his tenure which mentioned this it's very hard to argue it's a significant part of his time at the Bank of England. Nil Einne (talk) 10:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lock Page
I suggest locking this page to protect it from vandalism. Someone edited Mark Carney’s spouse to be listed as Jon Stewart from “The Daily Show” rather than his actual wife Diana Fox. My first reaction was to assume Carney was gay and married to someone who coincidentally had the same name as an American celebrity. I decided to double-check the “Personal Life” section to verify my assumptions and sure enough that section contradicted the infobox listing with what I assume are the real facts.
Jon Stewart’s interview with Mr. Carney strongly implied the latter would be running for Prime Minister of Canada. I assume it is Wikipedia policy to lock pages of politicians running for political office so as to protect them from vandalism. Even minor edits can spread misinformation and disinformation like wildfire, so I think it is in the public interest as well as one of the goals of Wikipedia to prevent such occurrences. Someone with authority please implement such changes. Thank you. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 23:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It generally takes more than a single vandalistic edit to limit editing on a page -- in this case, an edit that was only in place for 3 minutes. However, you are free to go to our Requests for Page Protection page and request such protection, which will be evaluated by those who usually take care of such matters.
We do not generally "lock" such pages by default; only when a page is showing a record of problem editing that must be addressed. (And even then, is generally just stopping article edits by folks who do not have visible experience with Wikipedia editing; experienced editors can continue to improve the article.) Such a change in policy and practice would have to be raised elsewhere to take effect, possibly at the page for suggesting and discussing general changes to policy. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This entire article basically reads as Liberal party propaganda - there is plenty of controversy surrounding Carney, yet absolutely nothing is mentioned here. Even his surprising claim about the proposed Canadian Finance minister position is worded as if it's verified! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.58.171.237 (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
