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Provincial infoboxes with 'other names'
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We're having a bit of a dispute at Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia & Prince Edward Island, concerning French versions of those names, in the infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 21:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I came here to start a centralized discussion about the same thing, since there are now parallel discussions on several pages about this same issue which really should impact all Canadian province infoboxes. GoodDay, along with Moxy and MediaKyle, have re-started a discussion from earlier in the year (at least on the PEI talk page) about infoboxes including any alternate name that is not an "official" name sourced to a government document. I and a few other editors (courtesy ping Simonm223 and W.andrea) have challenged this view, arguing that infoboxes are a summary of information about a topic, not a repository for official information only, and as such including place names in other commonly-used languages (not just French; Mi'kmaq and Gaelic have also been removed) is acceptable and expected. No consensus has really formed; I would like to hear more opinions. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:27, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- My opinion is we should stop worrying about the infobox and start writing "Etymology" sections. Our readers will thank us. MediaKyle (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- All of those articles already have etymology sections (I'm counting Nfld's "Names" section as an etymology). They could all probably use some work. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:37, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- My opinion is we should stop worrying about the infobox and start writing "Etymology" sections. Our readers will thank us. MediaKyle (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think French is relevant enough to these provinces to merit mentioning in the infoboxes. For one thing, they all have decent French-speaking populations, and for another, French is historically important to at least the Maritimes and Labrador (I'm not sure about NFLD). — W.andrea (talk) 01:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'll say what I always say when people freak out about the inclusion of "Colombie-Britannique" in the British Columbia article: the provinces and the territories are creations of Canada, Canada is officially bilingual, and the government of Canada literally has official French names for ALL its constituent parts. Given that, and just that, it doesn't matter whether 0% or 100% of a jurisdiction is French or English, or what that jurisdiction's own official languages are: both its official English and French names should be included in both the lead of the article and the infobox. —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:50, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
The territories, sure, but the provinces joined confederation of their own accord. They weren't created by Canada. That's not to take away from your main point, just a quibble with one part. — W.andrea (talk) 12:02, 30 November 2025 (UTC)the provinces and the territories are creations of Canada
- I'll say what I always say when people freak out about the inclusion of "Colombie-Britannique" in the British Columbia article: the provinces and the territories are creations of Canada, Canada is officially bilingual, and the government of Canada literally has official French names for ALL its constituent parts. Given that, and just that, it doesn't matter whether 0% or 100% of a jurisdiction is French or English, or what that jurisdiction's own official languages are: both its official English and French names should be included in both the lead of the article and the infobox. —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:50, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- As for native names, I think the provinces are fundamentally post-colonial entities, and it seems like native names don't line up one-to-one with the English and French toponymy. So I'm undecided. — W.andrea (talk) 01:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Mi'kmaq should be included for Prince Edward Island; I don't really have insight on the other provinces. The last time this came up I provided some citations to demonstrate the public push (by Indigenous groups and the PEI government itself) to highlight and promote the Mi'kmaq language and heritage in the province, including successfully renaming a national historic site to include its Mi'kmaq name, an ongoing proposal to rename a major landmark after the Mi'kmaq name of the island, and the newest national park reserve was named after its Mi'kmaq place name. Many names of places around the province are English bastardizations of French transliterations of Mi'kmaq names (for example Bedeque, Cascumpec, Malpeque) which is also the case in at least New Brunswick (Kouchibouguac, for example). Many place signs and heritage plaques are already printed in English and Mi'kmaq; French is far less common, although (ironically maybe) the most Acadian parts of the island have the most British names (Wellington, Richmond). Also, as W.andrea suggested below, I believe PEI is one of the only provinces where the local Indigenous group does have a specific name for the province itself which is commonly used, as opposed to only used when dealing with the colonial/provincial/territorial government. It violates NPOV to omit it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:51, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Firmly agree. Mi'kmawi'simk is literally an official language of Nova Scotia. The fact that the language name has been removed from Nova Scotia's infobox is ridiculous to me. And, for places like PEI, WP:PLACENAME#General guidelines is clear on the matter: "Relevant foreign language names (one used by [...] a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted." In this case, the Mi'kmaq did not simply "used to" live there, it is literally their country, a country which maintains treaty relations with the Canadian State and Maritime provinces to this day. From my perspective, this erasure is anti-factual and an affront to the very values of Wikipedia. As such, I am reaffirming that the actions of users @MediaKyle, @Moxy, and @Magnolia677 are in violation of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Danachos (talk) 21:01, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Dame ....seeing the source makes it clear it's not an official language.... this is disappointing ...soft reconciliation is what we call this....as in no balls attached to the ACT.... It's just for show... simply appeasement. This is something we could expand on in the etymology section. Moxy🍁 00:03, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Firmly agree. Mi'kmawi'simk is literally an official language of Nova Scotia. The fact that the language name has been removed from Nova Scotia's infobox is ridiculous to me. And, for places like PEI, WP:PLACENAME#General guidelines is clear on the matter: "Relevant foreign language names (one used by [...] a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted." In this case, the Mi'kmaq did not simply "used to" live there, it is literally their country, a country which maintains treaty relations with the Canadian State and Maritime provinces to this day. From my perspective, this erasure is anti-factual and an affront to the very values of Wikipedia. As such, I am reaffirming that the actions of users @MediaKyle, @Moxy, and @Magnolia677 are in violation of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Danachos (talk) 21:01, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Mi'kmaq should be included for Prince Edward Island; I don't really have insight on the other provinces. The last time this came up I provided some citations to demonstrate the public push (by Indigenous groups and the PEI government itself) to highlight and promote the Mi'kmaq language and heritage in the province, including successfully renaming a national historic site to include its Mi'kmaq name, an ongoing proposal to rename a major landmark after the Mi'kmaq name of the island, and the newest national park reserve was named after its Mi'kmaq place name. Many names of places around the province are English bastardizations of French transliterations of Mi'kmaq names (for example Bedeque, Cascumpec, Malpeque) which is also the case in at least New Brunswick (Kouchibouguac, for example). Many place signs and heritage plaques are already printed in English and Mi'kmaq; French is far less common, although (ironically maybe) the most Acadian parts of the island have the most British names (Wellington, Richmond). Also, as W.andrea suggested below, I believe PEI is one of the only provinces where the local Indigenous group does have a specific name for the province itself which is commonly used, as opposed to only used when dealing with the colonial/provincial/territorial government. It violates NPOV to omit it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:51, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- We're at it again at New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island ... Danachos, you may wish to review this discussion. MediaKyle (talk) 20:00, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Danachos: I must have missed it, but where at this source does it say Mi’kmaw is an "official" language? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:08, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- You are right, it is not official as Nova Scotia has no official languages. The closest it does have is Mi'kmawi'simk which, according to §2 of the Act: "The purpose of this Act is to (a) recognize the Mi’kmaw language as the original language of the Province." The language used is "first" or "original language." Indeed, as the original, but not officially "official" language, it is not accorded rights in courts or in the legislature; yet, English is also not official, instead acting as the de facto language in such cases. I was incorrect in my other posts with regard to official status; however, I argue my points on the matter still stand: It does not need to be official-official to be affirmed in the article. Danachos (talk) 21:29, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- In other words, you asserted that Mi’kmaw "is literally an official language of Nova Scotia", and supported your assertion with a source that literally says it isn't. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:08, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- You are right, it is not official as Nova Scotia has no official languages. The closest it does have is Mi'kmawi'simk which, according to §2 of the Act: "The purpose of this Act is to (a) recognize the Mi’kmaw language as the original language of the Province." The language used is "first" or "original language." Indeed, as the original, but not officially "official" language, it is not accorded rights in courts or in the legislature; yet, English is also not official, instead acting as the de facto language in such cases. I was incorrect in my other posts with regard to official status; however, I argue my points on the matter still stand: It does not need to be official-official to be affirmed in the article. Danachos (talk) 21:29, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Danachos: I must have missed it, but where at this source does it say Mi’kmaw is an "official" language? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:08, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
NWT
Honestly, are there really a lot of French speakers in Northwest Territories, that we should have a French version of NWT in the infobox? GoodDay (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Source? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm asking, are there? GoodDay (talk) 22:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- More than 4,000, according to census data, and it's one of the official languages of the territory. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 23:16, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- NWT has 11 official languages. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do they also have their own names for the territory that are worth mentioning in the infobox? I'm asking because Mi'kmaq apparently doesn't really have a word for Nova Scotia, instead they use a transliterated version of the English, No'pa Sko'sia, and only if they have to talk about the political entity, otherwise they use a different word to refer to geographical areas like Unama'ki for Cape Breton. — W.andrea (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- If we're going to impose a rule that the infobox is for official languages, then yes, all 11 of them. I'm not suggesting that we do, NPOV suggests we should go by common usage. If they are generally commonly used names, not necessarily just by the speakers of those languages (as I have been trying to demonstrate is the case for Epekwitk/Abegweit in Prince Edward Island) then they should be included in the infobox, otherwise I think they should be mentioned in an etymology section. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is where you're starting to lose me. You're suggesting that if all 11 names are in common use, then we would want all 11 names in the infobox? You do realize that would take up an amount of space equivalent to a photograph? I don't think this argument really holds up. My goodness, these are just infoboxes anyways. They're not even open by default for mobile readers, i.e. the majority of our readership. For the provinces, I say we just settle on English and French across the board, and explain everything else in the body of the article, the more important part of the article. Consensus is a lot more clear for including French names than any others. I don't have an opinion on the territories, other than to say 11 names would be comically out of hand. MediaKyle (talk) 18:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
Or we could just collapse the "other names" like I did at Nova Scotia: diff. — W.andrea (talk) 19:01, 27 November 2025 (UTC)You do realize that would take up an amount of space equivalent to a photograph?
- MediaKyle, I think you need to read my comment again, but I'll draw your attention to my second sentence which opens with "I'm not suggesting that we do [include all 11 names]" (emphasis added). What is the rationale for including both English and French if not common usage (French is only official in Quebec and New Brunswick), and if common usage is the criteria then what is the rationale for excluding Mi'kmaq from PEI? The Mi'kmaq name for the province is significant enough to be highlighted in the lede, its (current) French name isn't mentioned at all until the etymology section, in a passing note along with Gaelic. In many of the infoboxes we now have the French name listed as the only alternate without the French name being described in the article at all, while other more relevant languages are. It's nonsensical. I don't accept the argument that we should not have standards for what is included in the infobox: they are not just decoration, and they are not less important because they're not visible to some readers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:51, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is where you're starting to lose me. You're suggesting that if all 11 names are in common use, then we would want all 11 names in the infobox? You do realize that would take up an amount of space equivalent to a photograph? I don't think this argument really holds up. My goodness, these are just infoboxes anyways. They're not even open by default for mobile readers, i.e. the majority of our readership. For the provinces, I say we just settle on English and French across the board, and explain everything else in the body of the article, the more important part of the article. Consensus is a lot more clear for including French names than any others. I don't have an opinion on the territories, other than to say 11 names would be comically out of hand. MediaKyle (talk) 18:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- If we're going to impose a rule that the infobox is for official languages, then yes, all 11 of them. I'm not suggesting that we do, NPOV suggests we should go by common usage. If they are generally commonly used names, not necessarily just by the speakers of those languages (as I have been trying to demonstrate is the case for Epekwitk/Abegweit in Prince Edward Island) then they should be included in the infobox, otherwise I think they should be mentioned in an etymology section. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do they also have their own names for the territory that are worth mentioning in the infobox? I'm asking because Mi'kmaq apparently doesn't really have a word for Nova Scotia, instead they use a transliterated version of the English, No'pa Sko'sia, and only if they have to talk about the political entity, otherwise they use a different word to refer to geographical areas like Unama'ki for Cape Breton. — W.andrea (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- NWT has 11 official languages. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- More than 4,000, according to census data, and it's one of the official languages of the territory. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 23:16, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm asking, are there? GoodDay (talk) 22:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Exclusion from the lead (infobox is in thelead) because there's zero context... thus implying its a first language (native language) connection when there's clearly not. Etymology section is the place to discuss modern translations or historical terms.Moxy🍁 21:07, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- The Government of the Northwest Territories operates in English and French, as shown by its official websites. Therefore, French and English names should both be used, because both are the names of the territory, as demonstrated by the government itself. The French version is not a translation of the name; English and French are given the same status by the territorial government.
- See:
- Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:01, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand this comment from Moxy: "because there's zero context... thus implying its a first language (native language) connection when there's clearly not." Is that saying that we presume all long-term residents of the NWT (or born there) who are not Indigenous speak English as a first language, and anyone who speaks French as a first language is from away? It doesn't strike me as at all clear that there are no long-term residents of the NWT (or born there) for whom French is the first language. Absent any evidence, we can't make a presumption on this point, and assume English only (without any evidence), and deny French-speaking residents (without any evidence). Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- I should be more clear....we should not use the Template:Native name parameter ment for the main language that people use in a region. Moxy🍁 15:43, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:52, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- I should be more clear....we should not use the Template:Native name parameter ment for the main language that people use in a region. Moxy🍁 15:43, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand this comment from Moxy: "because there's zero context... thus implying its a first language (native language) connection when there's clearly not." Is that saying that we presume all long-term residents of the NWT (or born there) who are not Indigenous speak English as a first language, and anyone who speaks French as a first language is from away? It doesn't strike me as at all clear that there are no long-term residents of the NWT (or born there) for whom French is the first language. Absent any evidence, we can't make a presumption on this point, and assume English only (without any evidence), and deny French-speaking residents (without any evidence). Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
What to include
I think the bigger question is what do we want to display as outlined at each template. Do we do only official provincial languages Template:Name in official languages? recognize languages Template:Name in various languages?, dominant language (that can be useful for Northern villages) Template:Native name? Questions to ask...is should this be decided by province and territory? Will this cause Wikipedia:Infobox too large problems in some articles? I'm assuming we all agree more should be said about languages in the articles themselves before things be expanded in the infobox so expand and explain what's going on in the infobox. On a side note we need to make better provincial and territorial language articles.Moxy🍁 01:49, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Someone was working on them... We had Language policy in Nova Scotia and others... They turned out to be socking and all their contributions were deleted. It was a sad day. Anyways, as I've said elsewhere, inclusion of French names especially for the Maritimes makes a lot of sense, and consensus for including French names in the infobox is clear -- what we keep arguing over is Indigenous names, presumably on account of the politicization of them. Unfortunately, I think this is a situation where this is going to keep coming up forever, sort of like the coat of arms thing. We can't make everybody happy. I'd still support adding a new section to the infobox for alternative names that isn't immediately below the title like I talked about before at Template talk:Infobox province or territory of Canada if anyone wanted to try to refine that idea. MediaKyle (talk) 02:25, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Recently created 're-direct', that might need to be deleted. GoodDay (talk) 04:04, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Since Canada is a Commonwealth realm, perhaps redirect to the Canada article? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
Draft:Cascade Institute (request for review)
Hello WikiProject Canada editors,
I have submitted a draft article at Draft:Cascade Institute and am requesting review for notability, tone, and sourcing. The subject is a Canadian research institute based at Royal Roads University.
I have disclosed a conflict of interest and am not publishing directly to mainspace.
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you. Rainwood13 (talk) 17:23, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
Request for clarification: RfC alert process for University of New Brunswick
Per WikiProject Canada Article Alerts documentation, alerts are triggered when articles are tagged with the {{WikiProject Canada}} template or placed in relevant categories. Currently, our RfC for UNB has the Talk page tagged, but the article itself is not. For procedural clarity, since our RfC does not currently appear in Article Alerts, when would it be acceptable to add our RfC entry manually to ensure proper alerting? Tinterest (talk) 18:20, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Summary: Inclusion of University of New Brunswick on List of oldest universities in continuous operation
- I'll be honest with you: that RfC discussion is too long, and seeing as it's heavily leaning oppose now after four days, it's unlikely that anyone here is going to read all of it and meaningfully participate. I suggest you let that run its course, and revisit the topic in six months to a year. In any case, you have now notified WikiProject Canada, so editing the article alerts won't be necessary. MediaKyle (talk) 18:27, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your reply. That does not address my procedural question: given WikiProject Canada guidelines, when would it be acceptable to add our RfC entry manually to ensure proper alerting, if automated alerts are not appearing despite proper Talk page tagging?Tinterest (talk) 19:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- We don't manually edit the article alerts. I see that you added the WikiProject Canada template today, so that RfC should show up there next time the bot updates it. MediaKyle (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Noted — the newly added {{WikiProject Canada}} template on the article will be picked up by the bot. For clarity, the prior Talk-page tagging (added before the one added to the article) has not yet appeared in the Project’s Article Alerts. If the bot does not pick it up automatically, what would be the proper procedure to ensure the RfC is fully listed? If the Project's automated alert system is not functioning per documentation, perhaps the documentation should be clarified to reflect this and allow for manual submissions until the Project page is fixed.Tinterest (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- I believe you are mistaken. I see it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists/Article alerts, Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Article alerts, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Higher education/Article alerts. The same will almost certainly happen here, I think in about eight hours. MediaKyle (talk) 20:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Noted, thank you for confirming that Talk-page tagging also triggers Article Alerts. Tinterest (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Just to address your question about when is the right time to manually update the alerts, there isn't one. If you try to edit the list, the bot will overwrite you on its next run. If the bot is not catching your article automatically, you need to figure out why and fix the problem. I believe MediaKyle has already addressed that. If you can't get it to work at all and want to attract attention, you could post a section on this page with {{rfc notice}}. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:02, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the very useful guidance. I’ve checked the banners and everything appears correct, but if the automated alerts still fail to function properly, I will consider posting additional notice per your advice. I appreciate your help! Tinterest (talk) 23:07, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Just to address your question about when is the right time to manually update the alerts, there isn't one. If you try to edit the list, the bot will overwrite you on its next run. If the bot is not catching your article automatically, you need to figure out why and fix the problem. I believe MediaKyle has already addressed that. If you can't get it to work at all and want to attract attention, you could post a section on this page with {{rfc notice}}. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:02, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Noted, thank you for confirming that Talk-page tagging also triggers Article Alerts. Tinterest (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- I believe you are mistaken. I see it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists/Article alerts, Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Article alerts, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Higher education/Article alerts. The same will almost certainly happen here, I think in about eight hours. MediaKyle (talk) 20:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Noted — the newly added {{WikiProject Canada}} template on the article will be picked up by the bot. For clarity, the prior Talk-page tagging (added before the one added to the article) has not yet appeared in the Project’s Article Alerts. If the bot does not pick it up automatically, what would be the proper procedure to ensure the RfC is fully listed? If the Project's automated alert system is not functioning per documentation, perhaps the documentation should be clarified to reflect this and allow for manual submissions until the Project page is fixed.Tinterest (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- We don't manually edit the article alerts. I see that you added the WikiProject Canada template today, so that RfC should show up there next time the bot updates it. MediaKyle (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. That does not address my procedural question: given WikiProject Canada guidelines, when would it be acceptable to add our RfC entry manually to ensure proper alerting, if automated alerts are not appearing despite proper Talk page tagging?Tinterest (talk) 19:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
Can someone please add sources to this article? It's been unreferenced since 2005.4meter4 (talk) 06:21, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Henderson, Ontario
Currently Henderson, Ontario is a redirect to Kingston, Ontario but it's never mentioned in the article. It is mentioned in Central Frontenac as a community (Compact Rural Community) and there is another Henderson (Geographic Township) in Cochrane District but it's not mentioned in the article but is in List of townships in Ontario under Cochrane District. So is there an area of Kingston called Henderson (in which case a hat note to the other Henderson's should be added) or should the redirects target be changed? If so to which of the three possible options, Central Frontenac, Cochrane District, or List of townships in Ontario? There are several Henderson's in Ontario but non of them seem to apply. CambridgeBayWeather (#1 deranged), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 18:14, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- There are old versions of the article from 2008-2009 that indicate that it's in Central Frontenac. Why it was re-targeted to Kingston is unclear. Regards, PKT(alk) 18:43, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. For some reason I forgot to check the history. Someone thought it was also a neighbourhood . Change the target. CambridgeBayWeather (#1 deranged), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 19:35, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- There’s apparently a neighbourhood called Henderson Place in western Kingston, near the airport. OSM shows it within Kingston proper, but Mapcarta says it’s in Frontenac County. I also found a real-estate site that calls it “Henderson, Kingston” (without the “Place”).—Odysseus1479 20:17, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've adjusted the hat note at Central Frontenac. Give what I am doing and why this came up the location of the neighbourhood is somewhat ironic. CambridgeBayWeather (#1 deranged), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 20:34, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- There’s apparently a neighbourhood called Henderson Place in western Kingston, near the airport. OSM shows it within Kingston proper, but Mapcarta says it’s in Frontenac County. I also found a real-estate site that calls it “Henderson, Kingston” (without the “Place”).—Odysseus1479 20:17, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. For some reason I forgot to check the history. Someone thought it was also a neighbourhood . Change the target. CambridgeBayWeather (#1 deranged), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 19:35, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Edge (wrestler)
Edge (wrestler) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 19:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Should the s. 33 article be renamed Notwithstanding clause?
There's a request to move at section 33, for anyone who is interested. Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:53, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Request for comments: University of New Brunswick at List of oldest universities in continuous operation
List of oldest universities in continuous operation, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:26, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Unsourced articles with lots of data
We really shouldn't be housing articles with lots of data without citing where the data is coming from. It would be good to work on referencing these:
- Canadian federal election results in Eastern Montreal
- Canadian federal election results in Eastern Ontario
- Canadian federal election results in Eastern Quebec
- Canadian federal election results in New Brunswick
- Canadian federal election results in Nova Scotia
- Canadian federal election results in Quebec City
- Canadian federal election results in Southern Durham and York
- Canadian federal election results in Southwestern Ontario
- Canadian federal election results in Suburban Toronto
- Canadian federal election results in the Côte-Nord and Saguenay
Thanks to any who can help.4meter4 (talk) 13:26, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
66th Nova Scotia general election
See 66th Nova Scotia general election -- this is way too soon, isn't it? I've noticed with these election articles they're getting created farther and farther out. 2026 Toronto municipal election is another example. What do we think about articles being made for elections that aren't due for years? Should the Nova Scotia one be draftified? Pinging Lilactree201 who created N.S. election article. -- MediaKyle (talk) 20:40, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- The 46th Canadian federal election article went up right after the 2025 election, and that doesn't seem to have done any harm. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 20:43, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- It has been over a year since the last election, and these pages generally document the lead-up to the next election (background, timeline, polling...) over the years before the election actually occurs. I think it is fairly standard to have a page going by now. Lilactree201 (talk) 10:57, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's been customary to have a page for the "next" election, once the previous one has been held. GoodDay (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Gotcha. Thanks for your responses everyone, guess I was overthinking it. If we're all cool with these articles then I am too. MediaKyle (talk) 14:37, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
P.E.I. community Brookvale
Hello. Unincorporated community Brookvale, Prince Edward Island is already linked in a couple of places and mentioned in a few others (mostly due to the nearby Brookvale Provincial Park, I believe) but lacks an article. The notability threshold on settled places is quite low and Brookvale undoubtedly qualifies. Would someone like to add a stub for Brookvale, to resolve the red links and to enable mentions to be blue-linked? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:18, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- The guideline says it needs to be (or have been) a populated place. This source says it was only a post office. I realize there is a ski hill nearby, but do you have source showing people ever lived there? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:28, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hm, good catch. An 1873 source, but still, the burden is on the includer. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see if someone else has more recent info about possible population. Still, a new article is not the only way to resolve a red link. Is there an appropriate WP:List article, WP:Outline, or other, broader article where we could point a redirect to from Brookvale as subtopic? (edit conflict) Mathglot (talk) 23:46, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- But that one (AKA Higgin’s Settlement) is said to be in Halifax County, NS. Also listed is another PO in NB, but nothing in PEI.—Odysseus1479 00:22, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Brookvale appears to be a locality, not a community, so it's going to be more difficult to assert notability. I can't figure out what community it's apart of, but whatever that is, it should likely be redirected there instead. The target should have "The community includes the locality of Brookvale" added to it. MediaKyle (talk) 23:45, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- (post-ec) Was thinking along similar lines. Mathglot (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- You could also redirect it to Queens County, Prince Edward Island, but I'm really not a fan of redirecting to counties or municipalities, it's preferable to figure out what community a locality is within and redirect it there... If we can't find it we can't find it though. MediaKyle (talk) 23:49, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- If you zoom to max on this page, you can see Brookvale listed just at the NW border of the rural municipality of Kingston, which is shaded light green and marked #33. The label itself straddles the boundary, and it's impossible for me to see whether it is in or out of Kingston. If the label is centered, then it is outside perhaps, because the 'k' appears barely west of the Kingston boundary, but that doesn't seem like a reliable determiner, and a list or text would be better. Mathglot (talk) 00:37, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- FWIW OSM shows it with a “Level 8” administrative boundary, adjacent to Kingston (which is “Level 6”). It includes the road junction that can be seen just W of Kingston in the above map (nearly obscured by the Brookvale label) and is centred a couple of km to the WSW, near the ski area (and the lower left corner of the B).—Odysseus1479 02:26, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- If you zoom to max on this page, you can see Brookvale listed just at the NW border of the rural municipality of Kingston, which is shaded light green and marked #33. The label itself straddles the boundary, and it's impossible for me to see whether it is in or out of Kingston. If the label is centered, then it is outside perhaps, because the 'k' appears barely west of the Kingston boundary, but that doesn't seem like a reliable determiner, and a list or text would be better. Mathglot (talk) 00:37, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- You could also redirect it to Queens County, Prince Edward Island, but I'm really not a fan of redirecting to counties or municipalities, it's preferable to figure out what community a locality is within and redirect it there... If we can't find it we can't find it though. MediaKyle (talk) 23:49, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- (post-ec) Was thinking along similar lines. Mathglot (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
Do you need this article
could i write an article about the MacMaster-Leahys? Yooniik (talk) 22:06, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Maxim Lapierre
Maxim Lapierre has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 19:36, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
Morgan Grace
Morgan Grace (Canadian musician) has been nominated for deletion. It's a severely stubby article now. Can someone add other information (album titles, other events, etc.)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2025-43389-87 (talk) 01:13, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
WP:LEAD sectoin
Howdy a discussion concerning Lead sections is taking place. This would include federal elction pages (like 2025 Canadian federal election), provincial election pages, etc. GoodDay (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Flags of the Indigenous nations of Canada § New article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is an old post made in May 2024 that never received a response. I came across the article via a recent post asking about a file being used in it at WP:MCQ and saw the post while adding WikiProject banners to the top of the article's talk page. Maybe someone from this WikiProject could take a look at the article and assess it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
- Obviously a notable topic... Hate to invoke "other stuff" but if we can have an article about every random municipal flag we definitely want to have an article for flags of Indigenous nations. Not surprised that no one responded, would be nice to see it improved though. I created Mi'kmaq flag recently, there's plenty of sources for this stuff out there. MediaKyle (talk) 22:39, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
Holiday deletion
User_talk:Explicit#Coat_of_arms_of_Canada Moxy🍁 17:23, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'd go to WP:DRV if I were you... As a professional lurker I'm shocked I never heard of this until now. Clearly no effort was made to notify interested parties. Wish we could go a month without an arms-related issue... MediaKyle (talk) 20:05, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- I was hoping to save the closure ridicule in an open form and avoid another time sink. 6 days over the holidays closing as delete by two editors who have not been involved despite previous conversations definitely seems odd.Moxy🍁 20:16, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Canadian federalism#Requested move 26 December 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Canadian federalism#Requested move 26 December 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vestrian24Bio 04:24, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Elections in Canadian political leaders navboxes
Each of these eponymous navboxes for Canadian political leaders have a group for elections. However, in the case of legislative general elections that they contested, should the templates only include links to the elections in-which they were the party leader, or all elections? Take {{Jagmeet Singh}} for example, should links to the 2011 Canadian federal election, 2011 Ontario general election, and 2014 Ontario general election be included? I was hoping to try and add more of these templates to the appropriate election articles, although I think we can all agree that putting a template such as {{Pierre Poilievre}} at the bottom of the 2004 Canadian federal election would be ridiculous. And with that in mind, keeping the links to every election a politician contested would fail WP:BIDIRECTIONAL.
I am more on the side of only keeping the links that would be transcluded, but ultimately the important thing is to have consistency, hence why I am asking other users to weigh-in. All the templates can be found here. RedBlueGreen93 21:45, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- Navboxes are only really useful when every article within them has a transclusion. I think it would be unreasonable to add all of these politician navboxes to articles for their respective elections, we want to avoid WP:NAVBOXCREEP, and I'd worry about putting too much of a spotlight on certain people. The elections will already be well-linked within the biographies anyways -- the navbox is supposed to be narrow in focus, bringing together articles relating to a "single, coherent subject" to aid in navigation -- for that reason, I would say exclude them altogether. Plus, templates like Template:Canadian federal election, 2011A already cover navigating the leaders during elections.
- Unfortunately, there is no real standard for navboxes, so there never really will be consistency. I'm thinking about creating a wrapper to standardize Canadian city navboxes and see how that goes, we might be able to do that for the politicians as well. MediaKyle (talk) 22:04, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- I am not too worried about WP:NAVBOXCREEP in legislative election articles if we only include templates of the leaders that also qualify for a spot in the infobox (5% or seats). Regarding federal politicians, only 5 of the navboxes are of non-prime ministers and having an extra two templates doesn't seem very overkill to me. I guess I would argue that if a non-prime minister is notable enough for their own eponymous infobox (e.g. {{Jack Layton}}), it's likely that their leadership was a notable aspect of the election.
- Also, a few moments ago I added the navboxes to the respective election articles, as their transclusion was not an initial aspect of this discussion. I would like to clarify that this was not done in spite of your entry (I had not read it yet) and they can be reverted if this discussion leans towards their full removal as you have suggested. I would like more people to weigh-in first though. RedBlueGreen93 22:26, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- I echo MediaKyle's concerns re: NAVBOXCREEP. Having the elections contested within each politician's navbox makes a certain amount of sense but in that case, I think we should skip having them be bidirectional per the "should normally" clause in
Every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox, so that the navigation is bidirectional.
[my emphasis]. - If people feel BIDIRECTIONAL needs to be respected, then I would skip listing all the elections a politician's contested in their navbox... people can just go to that politician's page to see what elections they've stood in. —Joeyconnick (talk) 17:28, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- I echo MediaKyle's concerns re: NAVBOXCREEP. Having the elections contested within each politician's navbox makes a certain amount of sense but in that case, I think we should skip having them be bidirectional per the "should normally" clause in
Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities
Hi,
This page links from another page which calls the position "Minister for Housing and Diversity and Inclusion".
Should the first article be updated with a new title? I found this source calling it the latter. I don't want to edit it as I'm unfamiliar with the topic. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:52, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- There is probably no need to update the page title at this time. You can break Canadian positions in Cabinet into more "traditional" (e.g., Minister of Transport (Canada)) and "bespoke". This is a case of a bespoke position, and its current title reflects the last held named version of the position before its abolishment. - Caddyshack01 (talk) 16:39, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Is this tracked anywhere or is it as casual as them changing it on a whim? Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 09:09, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

The article Demographics of Toronto neighbourhoods has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Tagged as Unreferenced for almost 2 years. No other language (such as French) has a reliably sourced article from which to translate. 20 years out of date. Wikipedia is not a data base or webhost.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion based on established criteria.
If the proposed deletion has already been carried out, you may request undeletion of the article at any time. Bearian (talk) 10:47, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Help with making a map
Hi Everyone, I recently created an article for The Nestaweya River Trail, The infobox allows me to make a map of the trail, but i am unsure how to do that. Would anyone have some reading they can share with me so I can learn? McCIrishman (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're looking for Template:Routemap ... See Template:Musquodoboit Trailway on Musquodoboit Trailway for an example. Never tried to make one myself. I created a Wikidata item for the trail so it's automatically displaying a location map now. MediaKyle (talk) 19:51, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- thank you my friend! I will mess around in a sandbox and see if i can figure out how to do it! McCIrishman (talk) 20:07, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Merge Proposal: List of senators in the First Parliament of Canada ==> 1st Canadian Parliament
The article 1st Canadian Parliament has a list of all the members of the House of Commons, but does not mention the senators. There is a separate article, List of senators in the 1st Parliament of Canada, formatted the same way as the list of the members of the Commons. I've put a merge proposal on both pages; discussion is at Talk:1st Canadian Parliament. Comments welcome. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:15, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
This biography of a living person is of mid-importance to this WikiProject. It needs additional citations, and the sentences use inconsistent British and American spellings. The article is already being nominated for improvement. I'll be sending an almost identical message on the other WikiProjects affiliated with this article. 2600 etc (talk) 18:05, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's tagged at the top of the page as using Canadian English, which is neither British nor American. Please do not make any spelling changes without considering this point, especially if you're not familiar with Canadian English. Please see: MOS:ENGVAR and national varieties of English. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:32, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
Meetup Toronto Sunday, 18 January 2026

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François Legault resigning
Heads up, political editors -- just heard on the radio that François Legault will soon be stepping down. See the CBC News live coverage. -- MediaKyle (talk) 16:02, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Be prepared, as drive-by editors will start adding in end dates, before he actually leaves office. GoodDay (talk) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- PS - They'll be adding that dang "Outgoing" to the infobox, too. GoodDay (talk) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Considering how many resignations take weeks or months to take effect nowadays, and that "I'm going to resign at future point" drivel, I think "Outgoing" has become justifiable in infoboxes once some sort of official confirmation has been made. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 17:49, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- He's the incumbent until he leaves office, so it's best to leave "Incumbent" in the infobox, until then. GoodDay (talk) 17:52, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Everyone in the infobox is an incumbent; the fact someone's outgoing is what's noteworthy. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 18:04, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- He's the incumbent until he leaves office, so it's best to leave "Incumbent" in the infobox, until then. GoodDay (talk) 17:52, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Considering how many resignations take weeks or months to take effect nowadays, and that "I'm going to resign at future point" drivel, I think "Outgoing" has become justifiable in infoboxes once some sort of official confirmation has been made. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 17:49, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Conn Smythe
Conn Smythe has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 03:26, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
What is the correct source for an individual candidate's expenditures for an election?
Is there a specific line item by Elections Canada (or provincial equivalent) for the expenses to list for an individual candidate in an election result box (see Avalon (electoral district) as an example)? Avalon 2019 appears to use "Election_expenses_subject_to_the_limit_Total" from "Data as submitted" on "Part 3c - Summary of Electoral Campaign Expenses and Other Outflows" seen here on the Elections Canada website (although I can't seem to make a stable link).
| Candidate | CHAPMAN, Matthew | MCDONALD, Kenneth | MOVELLE, Lea Mary | MALONE, Greg |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Data as submitted | 37,082.47 | 63,518.25 | 3,852.04 | 2,119.63 |
| Data as amended | 36,254.89 | 54,528.62 | 3,852.04 |
Is there a consensus on the correct value to put as an expense (or even a different one than either of these listed)? - Caddyshack01 (talk) 23:35, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
Trans Memorial
I noticed Trans Memorial was created and nominated for deletion, if any notice board participants are interested in weighing in. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:16, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
Articles needing lead images
In my campaign to clean up Canadian sidebars, I have left behind a number of articles which could now benefit from a lead image. I'm indecisive and I know some folks like picking out images, so please help out if you can:
Thanks, MediaKyle (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
FAR for Calgary Flames
I have nominated Calgary Flames for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 02:09, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- The link shown above is an old discussion. The 2026 discussion is at Calgary Flames/archive2 .....Regards, PKT(alk) 12:18, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Please add reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 21:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)