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Seems like a double standard to me to have this in the lead especially after what opposing editors (usually from neighboring countries) were justifying in the recent RfC. For consistency sake, I suggest moving

but as a result of a dispute with Greece over the name "Macedonia", it was admitted under the provisional description "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (abbreviated as "FYR Macedonia" or "FYROM").

to the Names and etymology section

As the opposing editors suggested 'Republic of Macedonia' is stale history and therefore should not be in the lead, this logically should be also moved out of the lead. Either you have both or none otherwise it's simple POV pushing. Kromid (talk) 09:27, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot be moved since it is already in the body in the naming dispute section and it is appropriate to mention there. The best one can do is remove it from the lead and I would not mind that. I think this part that the country should rename itself "Republic of North Macedonia". This renaming came into effect in early 2019. could be removed as well. It is better to leave the details for the body and it is confusing without mentioning "Republic of Macedonia" too. StephenMacky1 (talk) 11:13, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good observation - that highlights even more redundancies than I initially thought. I agree and I'll remove the section from the lead since there is no opposition. Kromid (talk) 08:33, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I think the naming dispute should still be mentioned in the lead though since it is a notable aspect of the country's history. It should be one sentence and nothing more. StephenMacky1 (talk) 09:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It makes sense to simplify this in the lead section and move this wording to the Names and etymology, which as its name states covers the several names under which the country was known. Place Clichy (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Problem is as indicated the 'the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' is already mentioned in 'naming dispute section' which I missed and not even that - it's also mentioned in 'Foreign relations' too. So that's actually 3 mentions of 'the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' (5 if you also consider the acronyms also stated). Pretty overkill isn't it? Especially when the actual former name (per constitution and WP:MOSMAC) that is, 'Republic of Macedonia' only has 3 mentions.

Due to the redundancies - A temporary solution is to move the acronyms lower in the articles (they're acronyms after all) and somehow merge some of contents in 'naming dispute section' and 'Foreign relations' sections. For now I will drop the sentence from the 'Foreign relations' sections Kromid (talk) 09:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioning 'The former Yugoslav...' is relevant to the Foreign relations section though, when mentioning admission to the UN. It is also relevant to the Names and etymology section, and of course to the Naming dispute section. I don't mind it being expanded though, no need for the acronyms each time. It is not redundant. After all, there are many occurrences on this page of 'Republic of Macedonia', 'Macedonia' or 'Macedonian' where 'North Macedonia' could be used, and we don't count them or find them redundant. Place Clichy (talk) 19:48, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's only 3-4 occurrences of 'Republic of Macedonia' without any additional qualifiers and there's roughly the similar mentions of FYROM. Anyway, the issue persists that there's content in Names and etymology, Naming dispute and Foreign relations that are identical and the later two should be merged. Logically the Naming dispute should be a subsection of Foreign relations as the name issue is a topic of foreign relations. @StephenMacky1 any input here? Kromid (talk) 03:31, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I accept that it is logical to make that section a sub-section or at least integrate the content into Foreign relations, since the naming dispute affected international recognition and relations with Greece. Names and etymology should focus on names, not provisional references. There is really nothing special that can be written about "FYROM" there. StephenMacky1 (talk) 10:16, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your take on the Names and etymology and I will work on merging Foreign relations and Naming dispute when I get time. For now I will drop the "FYROM" reference in Names and etymology since we've got a 2-1 consensus (obviously I changed my mind from what I initiated on this topic per discussion) Kromid (talk) 11:20, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have another idea. The content about the naming dispute in Names and etymology should be moved or integrated elsewhere. We need to cut down on repetitive content. StephenMacky1 (talk) 11:53, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This has now resulted in the "Names" subsection not containing any information on the most recently used name that people might remember from this country, which is instead located within the Politics section. That doesnt seem like an improvement, no one typically reads an entire article from top to bottom, so there needs to be a degree of completeness for each section. A sentence referencing the other section seems like the bare minimum. — jonas (talk) 20:19, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

what is with the change of globally accepted historical facts? I didn't know Wikipedia sacrifices historical accuracy for the sake of political correctness by basically trying to make the topic appear as "disputed" while it's not. What's next? Are we going to make the earth article a disputed topic as well in order to not displease our fellow wikipedian flat earthers ? ~2025-40350-69 (talk) 20:30, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. As there is an explicit clarification in the PRESPA agreement that the citizens of the North Macedonia are not related to the ancient Hellenic civilizations that inhabited the northern regions of modern-day Greece. Specifically, Article 7 mentions that North Macedonians acknowledge that their understanding of the terms "Macedonia" and "Macedonian" refers to a different historical context and cultural heritage that that of the Ancient Hellenic Kingdom of Macedonia. There should be no mention of any Ancient Macedonian history in this article, since it is about the modern state which has no relation to, or connection with the Ancient Kingdom and its actors. ~2026-12084-51 (talk) 06:13, 9 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

With regards to [1], you will have to see MOS:BOLD. Logoshimpo (talk) 02:15, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]