Talk:John Vivian, 4th Baron Swansea

Good articleJohn Vivian, 4th Baron Swansea has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 22, 2026Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 7, 2026.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Wales's first Commonwealth Games medallist in shooting walked off the podium when the wrong national anthem was played?

GA review

Pass. MSincccc (talk) 12:40, 22 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Vivian, 4th Baron Swansea/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 08:41, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 18:27, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

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MSincccc (talk) 10:05, 20 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead
  • The article uses "fullbore" as well as "full bore".
Political positions
  • The section also discusses "Early life and education". You could consider renaming this section to reflect that.

MSincccc (talk) 14:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Source-to-text spot check

  • 1 –  Done It is true that the first 100 competitors make it to the final, but since the source does not explicitly state “top 100”, could the sentence He was placed in the top hundred competitors of the Queen’s Prize be slightly tweaked?
  • 2 –  Done The source confirms his mother, Winifred, died in 1950.
  • 6 –  Done Yes, he was made a Commander of the Order of St John in 1994.
  • 8 –  Done It supports all the claims, where the Times obituary is cited.
  • 13 –  Done He did come ahead of Stewart and competed with a “.303” rifle.
  • 24 –  Done

Also, I have been taught that when quotation marks are used, the exact words of the source should be retained; I hence used that knowledge in making the revision which you reverted.

UndercoverClassicist That’s all from me. Two questions; the rest is fine as it is. MSincccc (talk) 11:18, 22 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by HurricaneZeta (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: @UndercoverClassicist: article is new enough (promoted to GA two days before DYKN), long enough (7904 B), no apparent copyvio (EW 18.0% because of proper nouns, common phrases, etc.), and neutrally-toned. As for the hooks, all are sourced and appear in the article. To me ALT0 definitely seems the most interesting: I applied typical scrutiny for any "first" claim, and feel satisfied this one is a-okay - 1966 marked the sport's debut at the Commonwealth Games, so there was no real opportunity for Wales to produce any other shooting medalists. ALT1 is also a good, interesting backup, and perhaps a bit more cautious if someone thinks walking away from a wrong anthem incident casts him in a negative light. I wouldn't oppose ALT2 but think it's the least compelling of the bunch, as I'd assume there'd naturally be social overlap between British peers and the royal family. QPQ is done. Good to go! Zzz plant (talk) 22:27, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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