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"The period of Sasanian rule is considered a high point in Iranian history,[15] and in many ways was the peak of ancient Iranian culture before the Muslim conquest and subsequent Islamisation"

According to whom? Citation 15 leads to nothing. I have read the book cited below and see nothing that would support this sentence.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/arabic-thought-in-the-liberal-age-17981939/7A4EC7064730DD272E74D76237EED2DE

this is a made up citation. Also very easy to tell by a historian, as if you're comparing dynasties, the peak of Iranian History would have been well over a millennia before said empire, during the rule of the Achaemenid empire. Moreover, to randomly picture the Sasanian empire as the "peak of ancient Iranian culture" with no or citation/evidence is silly, and thus unless provided with said evidence, this sentence, as written, should be ignored and removed. Freeyourmines (talk) 03:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt that the wrong source youve linked? Also larger territorial extent does not neccesarily imply peak of culture. I will check it later. HistoryofIran (talk)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ~ Amkgp 💬 15:21, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The user @Wario-Man: has deleted my entire addition that shows with valid references on each sentence that historians acknowledge the factor of Kurdish tribes in the multi-ethnic Sassanian empire. He didn't leave me any notification behind, and not any chance to rectify any possible mistakes. His only hints were WP:FRINGE and WP:OR. WP:Fringe says that something is a fringe theory. The references that I added to each sentence are fully valuable sources that contain a not-often-represented information, yet that does not devalue my information as a theory. The sentences were clearly referenced. His second claim is that my references "refer to material such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist". If that would be the case then the user @Wario-Man: needed himself to show by proper research that my valid sources are not sufficiently based.

About my question to him for further elaboration he wrote however in his talk page:

My edit summary is crystal clear.[20] See WP:BURDEN. You added something to the article and I reverted it. So you should prove why your edits were OK and my revert was wrong. Open a new section on Talk:Sasanian Empire and discuss your concerns. I will reply there. --Wario-Man (talk) 03:59, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

He refers here to WP:Burden which is not included in his first reference during the revert. The link leads to a section which is about "Responsibility for providing citations". This makes however no sense as my first addition to the Sassanian page contained flawless sources and already satisfied the requirements. I also intended to work on the little section and add more references and sentences that are very well researched. But I cannot work on it when it gets deleted like that. I ask @Wario-Man: to elaborate the issue and to revert his deletion by himself so I can continuously improve my added section.

RedurMaye (talk) 08:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What valid references?! Your edits[1] were a mix of non-RS, personal opinion, WP:OR, and WP:FRINGE. Let me clarify them for you:

• While the Sassanian empire is a multi-ethnic ruling body, the origin of the first Sassanid kings can be traced back to Kurdish origin.
  • Unsourced, POV, and personal commentary
• According to the Shahname, the great-grandfather of the Sassanid Kings, Sasan, fled eastwards to Persia after a prophecy was made that his descendants would rule Ariana[88][89]. Sasan was described as a herder of camel cattle of one of the feudal lords [90]. Sasan, Ardashir's grandfather, is also said to have married Ram Behesht of the Bazanjan Kurds, who, according to Istakhri, were one of the five Kurdish tribes of Fars. [91]
  • Which one of those claims written by experts or historians? The only legit citation is The Origins and Appearance of the Kurds in Pre-Islamic Iran which should be verified by some experienced editors. Plus not supported by the main articles Sasan and Bazrangi; zero mention of such claims.
• Dahkhoda wrote in his encyclopedia that the father of the Sassanid king (Ardashir) is the Kurdish shepherd named Papak
  • Ali-Akbar Dehkhoda was not a historian. His opinion is WP:FRINGE and non-expert in this case.
• Dr. Rashid Yasemi, a professor at the University of Tehran, states that Sasan, who is the grandfather of Ardashir_I, is from the Kurdish clan of Shwankara (Shabankara) and that the mother of Papak is the daughter of one of the heads of the Kurdish Bazrangi/Bazanjan clans. The home of this clan is the Kurdish region of Fars Province. Yasemi adds that we can conclude that Ardashir_I was Kurdish
  • Gholamreza Rashid-Yasemi is just another non-historian and non-expert.

As I said, the only source that should be reviewed is The Origins and Appearance of the Kurds in Pre-Islamic Iran by John Limbert.[2] I ping some users who can review all of your edits. @HistoryofIran, Kansas Bear, LouisAragon, and Wikaviani: Your thoughts? --Wario-Man (talk) 08:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found John Limbert's work and this is the actual content from the source:

• According to Yasami, not only were the Kurds of Fars a major support of Sassanian power, but Ardashir I, the founder of the empire, was himself a Kurd. He says that Sasan, Ardashir's grandfather, married Ram Behesht of the Bazanjan Kurds...
• Although it is possible that the Kurds of Fars are related to the tribes of Kurdestan, it is more likely that the groups are distinct and that the tribes of Fars are not true Kurds, but Iranian tribes speaking southwest Iranian dialects, perhaps related to mDdern Luri. Such southwest dialects as Luri and Bakhtiari are much more closely related to Persian than to Kurdish. If we reconstruct the ancient linguistic division, then the Kurds of the north spoke a language related to Median--that is, north- west Iranian, and the "Kurds" of the south spoke a language related to Persian, or southwest Iranian...
• Most conclusive of all is the fact that Kurd in the older Persian or Arab sense meant simply nomad with no particular ethnic connotations. In this case, Ardavan V's letter becomes more insulting, since in effect he is calling Ardashir an ignorant nomad. The term was not even restricted to Iranian nomads--accord- ing to a tenth century work, the Persians called the Mesopotamian Arabs the "Kurds of Suristan." Thus it is reasonable (but hardly certain) that the so-called Kurds of Fars of Sassanian times were not true Kurds at all , but were Iranian nomads speaking dialects related to Persian...

What you did is WP:CHERRYPICKING and misrepresentation. So? --Wario-Man (talk) 09:01, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment : The source cited by RedurMaye are :

• Ferdowsi, 1000 years old, clearly outdated.
• Ali-Akbar Dehkhoda, a prominent linguist, no expertise for this topic.
• Gholamreza Rashid-Yasemi, a poet, translator, academic and literary figure, not a historian,

 thus, no expertise for this topic.

• John Limbert, he owns a Ph.D. in history and Middle Eastern studies, but even this source cannot

 be considered as being a high quality source, since the author worked mainly as a diplomat and has  
 only a few books published, no expertise about the Sasanian era. Besides, even if one had to consider 
 this last source as being reliable, RedurMaye misrepresented what it actually says, as 
 Wario-Man said above.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 14:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]