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I added a few links for the county airports, Door County Cherryland Airport and Ephraim-Fish Creek Airport. I recently created the Cherryland Airport article, and if anybody has more info on the airfield, please update the article. Also, if there is more information on any airports in Door County, I think that would be a valuble addition to the article..just my two cents. Luke119 01:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the template for expansion because I think more information on why folks vacation in Door County would be interesting; if not on this page, then on the individual cities' pages. I've never been up there so I don't really know that much. HollyAm 17:41, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If this article is going to talk about the Amerindians in Door County, I don't think it should jump from the 13th century to the "1800s". I don't like treating them like Brigadoon. The Door Peninsula and its islands feature in the westward migrations of North American Indians during the early historical period, with groups from the east displacing and replacing groups from the west. That Amerindians once lived on the Door Peninsula but now generally don't is a sort of truism and applies to the U.S. generally. It does not convey any information.

How many Native Americans lived in Door County in 1830 and how many were "removed" by the Indian Removal Act. What specific treaties conveyed what become Door County to the federal or territorial governments? When were they enacted? If unknown, try early 19th century or late 19th century.

Also, generally, the 1800s should be avoided. In 1801, Great Britain still controlled that part of the world. By 1899, the earlier part of the century was as unimaginable to those alive as 1899 is to us today. -Acjelen 21:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep an eye out for people changing tourism to terrorism on some articles, including this one. Is that suppose to be cool or something? -Keandobus 21:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to revert the stuff in the Tourism section about F***ing Illinois sh** heads.. since it very clearly does not add anything to this article and seems really out of place for an encyclopedia. BenFFoster 20:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see a lot of marketing copy by specific stores so I'm deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 21:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a common misconception that Death's Door was named after shipwrecks. However the name significantly predates any shipwrecks in the passage and has it's root in the 1600's as the passage was at the center of a conflict between rival Native American tribes attempting to control the fisheries off the coasts of Washington Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cite Your Sources (talk • contribs) 17:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure if "Cape Townsend" has anything to do with George Townshend, George Townshend. There is no h in Townsend, so maybe the similarity is just a coincidence. I am cross-posting this on the George Townshend talk page.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 16:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Holstein Cows Grazing in a field Door County.jpg

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User:Royalbroil has images of Newport and Potawatomi State parks (putting this here instead of in the article.)--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 01:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And many more places in the Door County and Wisconsin in general. Royalbroil 03:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are they all already on commons? I'm going to assume they aren't, so I get to make a wish list. I expect most of these requests will be unfulfilled, so don't feel like you need to go photograph them just because I asked. But on the off chance you have them:

• A picture of Robert La Salle County Park would fit in well to illustrate the mention of this place in the history section, but there aren't any pictures of it on commons or flickr.

• County or town parks not already featured could go in the Gallery or in the pages for the local communities. There are very few smaller parks featured on flickr under a suitable license.

• Pictures of food, people fishing or of caves (especially the entrance to Horseshoe Bay Cave) could go in the existing montages.

• There also aren't yet any good pictures of the escarpment on commons, just the stone quarry. I think a good picture would be one from a park where the landscape is undeveloped.

• File:NiagaraEscarpmentOutcroppings LakeMichiganShore.jpg. More from different places along the escarpment would be found here.

Yes, I saw those other pictures from Canada especially but I could find no similar big-cliff type pictures for Door County. I moved the NiagaraEscarpmentOutcroppings and the turbine up to the escarpment section, where they fit with the existing photo as a montage. The outcroppings picture is larger in the montage because it is hard to pick out the details when it is smaller.

I haven't found the Niagara Escarpment to be cliff-type in Door County. I might have some that are more gradual.

Yesterday I looked it up (and put it in the article) that it is more of one big escarpment north of Sturgeon Bay and separates into multiple smaller ridges south of Sturgeon Bay. Part of it is that the cliff face, when bare, is probably covered in trees. The places where it is more bare and exposed are probably near development or roads.

• Picture(s) of J-1 workers (like servers in ethnic European dress) could illustrate the Economics of tourism section. In general there aren't many photos of people on commons--many photos with people doing things of interest could be potentially added to county related articles.

• The reason why there aren't many people images is because they are very difficult, as the worker would need to be asked and give permission.

Oh well.

• A photo of biking or a bike race could go under non-motorized transportation. (There are already county related horseback and kayak pictures on flickr under a suitable license that I could upload.)

• Under "Geographic distribution of tourist spending"--if you took pictures of restaurant buildings, maybe a fancy one from the northern part could be placed alongside a diner or bar from the southern part.

File:Wilson's - panoramio.jpg Fancy northern

Yes, that would work.

• A photo of the coastal byway sign with the flower on it might fit either in the county article or another one.

• File:Door County Coastal Byway March 2011.jpg

Thank you for pointing that one out. I added it.

• A photo of the hospital in Sturgeon Bay could go in the public health section.

• A photo of an active gravel pit for the Soils, crops, gravel pits, and minerals... or maybe an oats or wheat crop near maturity?

My first thought was the Olde Stone Quarry which is photographed in the article

Another quarry-in-a-park is at Potowatomi State Park; yet neither is obviously a quarry to the picture-viewer because of time

• Recreational aircraft or motorcycle photos. A photo of the Wisconsin Motorcycle Memorial could work instead.

Door County Cherryland Airport

I really liked the photo in the infobox some months back when I first noticed it; but don't want to make the airport article seem degraded by taking it for the main county article.

• The current photo in the Shoreline development photo could be replaced if you have a better one.

• The Maple-Oregon Street bridge could use a picture on the Sturgeon Bay article if you have it. The other two bridges have pictures already.

I just uploaded File:OregonStBridgeSturgeonBayAug2009.jpg

• A maple tap, or a store which sells maple products.

• Brussels Hill and / or other high points

• The garden or demonstration plantings at the Peninsular Research Station

• If you photographed any unusual looking lichens, I can look at it and see if is one of the two kinds mentioned in the article. The lichen pictured is one of the more ordinary lichens that is found in more places and since they are mentioned, pictures would be appropriate.

• A barn quilt

• A chipmunk

--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I notice you add far more images that most Wikipedians want. Most Wikipedias want about 5 on an article of this size. I have inserted up to a dozen in some cases just to have others remove them saying that someone can click on the Commons link if they want to see more images. Royalbroil 04:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, some of these requests if you have them might be better in the individual topic articles due to space. Or they might replace an existing image, freeing up the one on this article to be used on another article without duplication. Likewise, a montage might replace existing single photos. If you count montages as a single image, roughly this article has around the same number of images as the San Francisco and Manhattan articles, (which are counties--strange). So it isn't excessive yet, but I understand I should be careful.

It helps that this is a noncontroversial article, but you still never no what people will fight about. About a month ago someone reverted a few photos I added to another county article, one in a less developed area that was under-illustrated. People are very arbitrary with their image preferences on Wikipedia so I often don't know what to expect until I try it despite the various rules that have been published. There is even an article about it: De gustibus non est disputandum.

If someone argues that people should just use commons link again, you can respond that page views stats indicate that items on commons aren't viewed much at all, while articles are seen and used. I've recently considered deleting the ferry, boat contest, lighthouse, 2000 census chart, wigwam, and Cave Point County Park photos. If any of them are yours and you want them kept, tell me.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 23:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(deindent) @Epiphyllumlover: I looked through photographs from dozens of trips to Door County since 2006 and didn't find anything that fit your other requests. I hope to go later this year to pick cherries and possibly a separate time to do a vacation rental for a few nights. I would take along the list in case I could fulfill any. Royalbroil 15:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Royalbroil:I didn't expect more than a few from my large list, and I was able to add two of them, so I feel like I got what I requested from my long-winded request. Plus I see above there are more suggestions I haven't attended to yet. Yet if you want to do more, have more ideas. Again, due to the volume there is no way you would want to do every one of them. Many of these would not be appropriate on the Door County article but could be helpful on the individual location articles:

• A. I'm not sure which way you are driving but you could photograph public wayside facilities and they could go into the highway articles. On 57, there are restrooms at Wequiock Falls, Bay Shore County Park, Red River County Park, and Meridian Park; On 42 they are at the Kewaunee Selner Park, Algoma Visitor Center south of Crescent Beach, Forestville Dam, and Maplewood. For 42-57 there are porta-potties at the Peninsular Agricultural Research Station by the Open Door garden. There are also public restrooms at 1820 S. Neenah and the visitor center in Sturgeon Bay.
• B. the Strawberry Creek fish hatchery just south of Sturgeon Bay
• C. All playgrounds, schools, and ballfields, and the signs for the two youth camps. They could go on the individual community articles.
• D. There are about 10k acres of DNR owned land, about 4k acres of Door County Trust Land, a little over 1k acres of county parks(for details, see page 49 and following of this pdf), and I am not counting the Ridges Sanctuary or parks owned by communities or school districts like the trail systems at Sawyer Elementary in Sturgeon Bay or the Southern Door School Forest. Of these, only the state parks and a minority of the county parks have illustrations. So the gaps are the DNR-owned areas that are not part of the five large state parks (I wonder if the tiny state park on Detroit Island has signs?), the Land Trust properties, most county parks, and nearly all local parks. It is safe to say that over 90% of public lands in Door County have zero pictures on Commons.
• E. Inland lakes. Some lakes have no photos and yet are fairly accessible to the public; a list:

• Arbter Lake (Mud Lake; Schmok Lake)
• Bradley Lake within Sunset Park
• Forestville Flowage
• Krause Lake
• Little Marsh (Wickman Marsh)
• Mackaysee Lake
• Rogers Lake
• Schwartz Lake
• Kellner's Fen
• Unnamed Lake #3 in Lyle-Harter-Matter County Park
• Voecks Marsh

The photos could go both on the main county page with the other lake photos or in the individual community or location articles.

• F. Rivers and Creeks. They are marked with signs on the roadway. There area already photos for Mink River, Logan Creek, and the Ahnapee. Possibly there are more I am missing among the flickr Mayer photographs, but they do not all appear to be labeled so I wouldn't know what to caption them anyway.
• G. For development on the escarpment, there is a telecomunications tower in Egg Harbor and also houses on the escarpment in that area.
• H. If you have a selfie-stick, you could stick it into the grate at Horseshoe Bay Cave (the openings are intentionally big enough for bats to get through). That way you could get an inside-the-cave picture.
• I. Any commercial fruit trees, bushes, or vines besides cherries or apples.

Resources for finding places to photograph:

• DNR Find A Lake
• DNR Find a park (if you zoom in the green parcels without icons are the ones that are missing so far; also the managed forest map has DNR lands colored and labeled)
• Developed Land Trust Preserves (to find the undeveloped ones lacking parking lots, go to the Wisconsin Statewide Parcel Map and run a search for LAND TRUST INC DOOR COUNTY . I think are already photos within undeveloped Land Trust preserve land on iNaturalist, but they are not published under a suitable license. This website works good for finding DNR lands--just search D.N.R. and it will bring them up-- and to find county properties like the parks, communications towers, and gravel pits, you can search for County of Door . For the Ridges, search Ridges Sanctuary.)
• Map of County and State Parks
• Parks on doorcountynorth.net (does not appear to be complete)*
• Liberty Grove Town Parks
• Sevastopol Town Parks
• Village of Egg Harbor Parks, with pdf map link at the bottom
• Town of Jacksonport parks
• Town of Baileys Harbor Parks
• City of Sturgeon Bay Parks
• Sister Bay Parks
• Washington Island Parks (labeled map on page 15 of the pdf)
• Beaches of Door County and this interactive map of Green Bay and Lake Michigan Beaches
• pee.place listings for Door County

--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:08, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all. This article is far too long per our guideline on article size. (I'm seeing nearly 15k words with the prose size script!) What can be cut out, shortened, or moved to sub articles? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]