If I have nominated your article for deletion, removed your content or reverted your change and you would like to know why,
please review the following Wikipedia policies and guidelines, among others that may be mentioned in a message I left on your Talk page:

WP:N (General Notability) WP:BIO (Person Notability) WP:ORG (Company or Group Notability) WP:WEB (Web Content Notability) WP:BLP (Biographies of living persons policies)

WP:MUSIC (Musician or Band Notability) WP:V (Verifiability) WP:RS (Reliable Sources) WP:COPY (Copyright)

Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2018. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2019, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from all of the articles tagged in our original target months of June, July and August 2018, and by 24 January we ran out of articles. After adding September, we finished the month with 8 target articles remaining and 842 left in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 48 requests for copyedit in January. Of the 31 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 32 copyedits, including 15 requests. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: As of 23:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 108 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 851 articles. March Drive: The month-long March drive is now underway; the target months are October and November 2018. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here! Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Reidgreg and Tdslk. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My edit to Amaral is correct. Please search “Nestor Amaral” under Google. His name and photo appear numerous times, as does his music under YouTube. He was in several films and nightclub shows, and worked with the famous Carmen Miranda. There are numerous photos of him with Ms. Miranda. LeslieRstevens (talk) 04:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Nestor Amaral meets the guidelines for a famous person. He can be located by name on numerous google search pages, YouTube, and images. I am trying to find that tilde sign on my keyboard so i can sign this. LeslieRstevens (talk) 04:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@LeslieRstevens: Surname list pages such as Amaral are navigation aids to Wikipedia articles. See Write the article first. Nestor Amaral may be notable, but unless and until a Wikipedia biographical article exists concerning him, he should not be added to the Amaral page. General Ization ^Talk 12:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I’m a new Wikipedia user and still getting the hang of citing sources. However I noticed that my edit was changed back to the old version before I could cite my source. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wnm4q8RTEII In this video he states that his dogs are named Brady and Wilson, one after Tom Brady, and the other Wilson, the name having nothing to do with Russell Wilson.

Acesliz (talk) 13:28, 28 March 2019 (UTC) 28 Mar 2019[reply]

@Acesliz: When editing biographical articles, and especially if removing cited content, you should include sources for your edits at the time you make the edits. If you fail to do so, you run the risk of the new or replacement content being reverted as unsourced and thus unverifiable. If you cite this video, cite it using the URL that indicates the specific time where this issue is addressed (starting at 3:02). No one should need to watch the entire video to confirm what Kane said about his dogs. General Ization ^Talk 13:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that the source was already cited, and I just changed the grammar issues and "shot multiple times" to "shot six times" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 11ALEXANDER11 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The cited source does not state how many times he was shot, nor how long after the shooting he was declared dead. Therefore your edit was unsourced and was reverted. General Ization ^Talk 01:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, I was not under the impression of the strictness of citing sources on Wikipedia, I am new to editing. Apologies. - 11ALEXANDER11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 11ALEXANDER11 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Process: An editor adds well researched information to an article. One person - who is a serial content-reverter has ultimate say over the content in the article? This is not the way Wikipedia is supposed to work. You are not warning the right person. If the content is not appropriate or incorrect it can be corrected or removed. This user reverted the material twice - I reverted the person twice, and then you stepped in to revert the content, ultimately siding with the serial content-reverter. IMO I think you need to warn the other user more than you need to warn the researching editor. Gristleking (talk) 02:21, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gristleking: You seem to have misunderstood the procedure here (even though John from Idegon has explained it to you on both your and his Talk page). Once your content has been reverted and you have begun a discussion on the Talk page, you wait for other editors to respond. You may not repeat the insertion of the challenged material until consensus has been achieved through discussion to either insert it, or to not do so. Please note that other editors are not required to respond instantly (and rarely will). I have not "sided" with anyone. I have warned you that if you revert again, you will have violated the three-revert rule, and that you are not following the policy here. By the way, the other editor has performed more than 88,000 edits on Wikipedia over 7 years. You have performed 47 edits in the 2 days since you became a Wikipedia editor. You might consider this as you evaluate whether they, or you, are more familiar with Wikipedia's policies and procedures. General Ization ^Talk 02:26, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Currently an ANI discussion about him. My 47 edits are constructive and welcome additions to Wikipedia. You can check them out. So far I see this user's edits as not constructive. I will abide by your power as an admin because I have to. Gristleking (talk) 02:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are advised to stop posting on other editors' Talk pages describing the other editor as a "serial reverter", which can easily be construed as a personal attack, and to focus on your own edits and actions. We edit collaboratively here, following certain rules and procedures, or not at all. If you continue, you will most likely find yourself in the latter group. General Ization ^Talk 02:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your multiple warnings and defense of the offender. I have received the message that I have far less value than the other user. You can go support this other editor in the ANI. In spite of my tone I do think you are a very professional administrator, I just think you are supporting the wrong user. Regarding the term serial-reverter I have learned, "where there is smoke there is fire." I do hope I am free to think what I like and to post what I wish on other talk pages. Have a great night. Gristleking (talk) 02:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to think what you like. As I just finished explaining, you are not free to post personal attacks concerning other editors on any Talk page. But of course, you have learned it all in your two days on the site. Good luck. General Ization ^Talk 02:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you might actually read the discussion at ANI, in which the editor who posted the report is basically being told the exact same things I have just told you. General Ization ^Talk 02:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of Crips subgroups (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I edited the Netherlands part of the subgroup crips.

you messaged me that you removed it and i need to have a valid source, there will be no better valid source as i been a member for 28 years since 91, i would like for you to add us to the list because those eight trays list you have of the Netherlands are incorrect, and nonsense gangs. you even missed MTC main triad crips aka rollin 200 which started 3 years earlier then us,Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The N.S.G.C North Side Gangster Crips aka 83GC Eight Tray Gangster Crips is currently the oldest active Crip gang in the Netherlands since 1991, and consists out of Multicultural gang members originated in Hoogezand and Groningen, Netherlands Founded by 2Strike exodus.

You are not a reliable source. Click on the blue link in that sentence to see what "reliable source" means. General Ization ^Talk 16:49, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know what a reliable source is and its those who are in it, and this is true generalization, basing facts on 3rd party incomplete and lack of research writings is not called reliable.

now i am taking my time to correct your list. i also seen your sources which you based your findings on, little groups of 7 members gangs you compare against 50 plus. using one authors writings which on its own doesn't have a reliable source and fpcissed more on the down south area.

i would like to negotiate this matter so we can add what i posted previously

your source doesn't even states the oldest crips set MTC from Den haag tells alot about your source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 17:04, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I "based my findings" on the fact that your edit did not include any reliable, published source(s) to support it. As you will have read at the link to which I directed you, that is not permitted here. Don't introduce the information to the article again without such a source. If you do, it will again be reverted, and if you persist, you will be blocked from editing. General Ization ^Talk 17:58, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok i get the message, the only thing so far mentioning us is stated in this book https://www.bol.com/nl/p/crips-nl/1001004001951215/# if we provide this url will it be sufficient, it's such a waist not mentioning 28 years of dedications. i also have some news reports regarding the street gangs activity's https://www.oogtv.nl/2017/09/politie-vraagt-hulp-bij-oplossen-overlast-beijum/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 18:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since I do not speak or read Dutch, and the content of that book doesn't appear to be online in any case, I can't advise whether citing it is sufficient to support your proposed content. Please note that sources you cite must directly support the statements you add to Wikipedia, and you may not include new content that is not directly supported by the source (for example, you may not state here that a branch of the Crips has been active in the Netherlands since 1991 based solely on a source that talks only about their current or recent activities). General Ization ^Talk 18:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That' s my dilemma I'm trying to get an agreement on, as i stated 1991 is 28 years ago, as you know there aren't many books about this subject, except those created regarding gangs . this book states and speaks about talking to multiple leaders from different big city's and we were among one of them.

The truth is you will not find any topic that hasn't been taken down or deleted from database due to it's vintage. and only because a book isn't available anymore doesn't mean it wasn't a published reliable source nor that it doesn't exist.

now we are merely talking about adding just one more organization onto the list, which can be found within this book. and you must know i wouldn't put so much effort if i wasn't conclusive regarding this matter. it's up to you, but i hope you could help me out to make the list more complete and accurate.

Hope you will consider it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 19:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the policy concerning verifiability, and hence the requirements for reliable sources, are not negotiable here, even based on the best intentions, the small size of the change or that they concern claims that are difficult to source. We are resigned to the fact that some claims, even if true, can never be published in the encyclopedia because there exist no published sources to make the claims verifiable. See the essay Verifiability, not truth. General Ization ^Talk 19:21, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Finally found it! this must do, could you edit it for me?

Eight Tray Gangster Crips is currently among the oldest active Crip gang in the Netherlands since 1990s , is an Multicultural-Gang in Netherlands founder 2strike exodus

https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 21:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, no. As I mentioned, I'm not a speaker of Dutch. I can't rely on your translation, or even machine translation, to confirm that that is what this source says. (And I certainly don't see anything there that looks like it says anything about "2strike exodus". Remember what I said above?) What I do see (primarily the quote in English) says that this group is not connected with any national network, which leads me to think they aren't actually affiliated with the Crips organization. Candidly, it is not important enough to me to spend a tremendous amount of time looking into it further. General Ization ^Talk 21:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

((Sorry, no. As I mentioned, I'm not a speaker of Dutch. I can't rely on your translation, or even machine translation, to confirm that that is what this source says.))

So now the source has to be solemnly english (where is that stated?), this is a valid published source. published work, photo,video and online are value sources according the link you gave me.

((And I certainly don't see anything there that looks like it says anything about "2strike exodus". Remember what I said above?))

That i can agree to and can be left out.

((What I do see (primarily the quote in English) says that this group is not connected with any national network, which leads me to think they aren't actually affiliated with the Crips organization. ))

Well that's not true and that's just an personal opinion or assumption, clearly this book states differently.

If you don't want to do it just say so, but don't say find me a valid source and you keep declining it. No english source is more valuable then a dutch source regarding dutch gangs. i thought the rules were base your writings on referencing sources. not on referencing languages. next to that you can clearly see the name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 21:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did not say that the source could not be used, nor that only English sources could be used. I said I couldn't advise you that the source satisfies the requirements as a reliable source for the content you want to add, mainly because I don't speak the language. The difference is significant. My suggestion is that you post the content you want to add, plus your proposed citation, at the Help Desk, on the chance that someone there can better advise you as to whether the citation is sufficient. Please mention at the Help Desk that your proposed source is in Dutch and will require fluency in that language, so that editors who don't have it won't waste their time. Please sign your edits there, and on any Talk page, by typing four tildes (~~~~) after them. General Ization ^Talk 21:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

would like to round this up

Eight Tray Gangster Crips is an Multicultural Gang in The Netherlands

citation https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false this may be added too for extra reverences but doesn't need to perse.

https://www.politieacademie.nl/kennisenonderzoek/kennis/mediatheek/PDF/74558.pdf

Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 06:58, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You may "like to round this up," but these discussions take time. You have posed the question at the Help Desk. Wait for a response. See There is no deadline. General Ization ^Talk 15:06, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That i understand, the reason i asked was due to RudolfRed answer "You can raise the question on the article's talk page, or Be Bold and go for it" before he knew you was the one that reverted it. knowing that there will lightly not be any dutch editors coming to the Talk page as you mentioned: " (I rather doubt the talk page of this particular article is frequently visited by editors fluent in Dutch)". I can rather conclude the helpdesk all ready gave a Go based on "or Be Bold and go for it" he basically gave his permission. the out come would of depend on you, so we already had our answer with all do respect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apronsoftherestricted (talk • contribs) 18:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Apronsoftherestricted: Please stop creating separate sections on my Talk page for every addition you make to this conversation, which I must later merge to keep the conversation together in one section. To add to this conversation, simply scroll down to this section and click on edit.

The advice RudolfRed gave you was simply bad advice, based, I think, on his misunderstanding (and/or an incomplete assessment) of the circumstances up to that point. Once you have been reverted and your edit challenged, you should not repeat it while the issue is being discussed. RudolfRed is simply one of the editors who frequently assists at the Help Desk; he is not the final authority on any question. My point in suggesting that you post on the Help Desk was to find an experienced editor who speaks Dutch to review your proposed sources. We have clearly not found that editor quite yet. I have also posted a message on another board where editors here at the English Wikipedia who speak various languages other than English may see it and respond in this conversation.

May I ask why you think this is so urgent? As you tell it, the Netherlands chapter of the gang has been around since 1991. A couple more days, even weeks, before it is mentioned in Wikipedia will have very little effect on it or on the world in the long run. We do not do things here, and certainly we do not dispense with the appropriate verification of sources, just because someone is in a tremendous hurry to see their contribution "in print" (in fact, that is often a reason for us to question whether the content belongs in the article at all).

And let me remind you again to sign your edits here, and on any Talk page, by typing four tildes (~~~~) after them. General Ization ^Talk 18:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

i did not find an edit when scrolling down, only when scrolling up. I am not here to argue, but you making it seem like i am the one being difficult, but if you could read dutch then these conversation wouldn't be happening, It's ok for you to keep wiki safe and earn badges by safe guarding pages and edits that's fine with me. But i am 39 years old, i know whats being asked of me and speak fluent Dutch because i live there, my understanding is everybody may be a editor if one would provide valid sources, no matter the languages of the source. You asked me 1. Find a valid source> i did, declined because your not able to read dutch to verify it. 2.Ask the Helpdesk as final > i did yet you say "he is not the final authority on any question, and his decision " then i wonder who is authorized on the Helpdesk, somebody who knows dutch? you also stated "simply bad advice, based, I think, on his misunderstanding" there was no misunderstanding except him not knowing it was revoked, and the only reason due to the source being Dutch.

Now your telling me you requested and posted it on other a board, which you failed to mention earlier on the helpdesk so i could not been aware of this, nor should you bring forward like i'm making a rush of things with a hidden agenda while the sources are perfectly fine, and while the conversation basically ended with a ?.Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 20:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Look, friend, I'll be happy to wash my hands of the whole thing. You've asked for help and I've tried to assist you. Yes, that included posting at the Reference Desk/Language inviting any editor who speaks Dutch fluently to assist us. I'm not at all clear why you think I should have mentioned this to you here or anywhere else, or why you would have a problem with it. I never questioned your fluency in Dutch, but as a new editor, and based on several aspects of our conversation, I do question your understanding of our sourcing policies here, and that is why I am trying to help you. And yes, I have asked you why you feel this information must be posted urgently, and you have failed to answer. I have no interest in being abused, nor in having my time, which is just as valuable as yours, wasted. I am under no obligation to help you. If you'd just as soon be on your own, please stop posting on my Talk page. General Ization ^Talk 22:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make it seem like i am unreasonable and want to wash your hands go ahead if you want to fail to understand that i had no nodes of you requesting it on another board, like i should smell it, not being aware of this explains why i might seem in a urgent matter. because the conversation on the helpdesk end it with put it in the talk page, and you answered "(I rather doubt the talk page of this particular article is frequently visited by editors fluent in Dutch)", so naturally what would you assume my next step would be other then message you again,. only to be told im rushing things ( while not being aware you requested more editors to view it)..

"I'm not at all clear why you think I should have mentioned this to you here or anywhere else, or why you would have a problem with it" I appreciate your help, but don't make prejudgments on people of things they are not aware off.if you would of told me that, then i knew i needed to wait a little bit longer. it's called logic's.

FOR THE DUTCH EDITOR Ik wou graag een extra lijn neer willen zetten in de lijst sectie Nederland. Eight Tray Gangster Crips is an Multicultural Gang in Den Haag,Groningen The Netherlands.

Waar ik dit op baseer https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false.

In de boek crips.nl word met meerdere leden gesproken van de grotere steden zoals groningen, deze boek is helaas niet meer leverbaar maar hier is die https://www.bol.com/nl/p/crips-nl/1001004001951215/. Er is tevens ook een crip pagina in nl die het verwijst. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crips#Crips_in_Nederland

De reden dat ik het nog niet kan editen is omdat Generalization geen Nederlands spreekt of leest. Graag zou ik een nederlandse hulp hier bij hebben om hem te overtuigen dat dit correct is. Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 12:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some one on the Helpdesk replied, and basically confirmed my claims, i would like to rewrite and present, what i had planned to post, and add some more crip chapters in the netherlands to the group which was also stated in the mentioned book, public dutch news channels and official sites Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List for the Dutch section

Eight Tray Gangster Crips is currently among the oldest and still active Crip formation in the Netherlands since 1990s, also known under the titles ETGC, NSGC North Side Gangster Crips In several district's ranging from Groningen, Den Haag, Dordrecht.

Traynity is an Afro-Dutch Eight Tray chapter in Bijlmer The Netherlands .

Rollin200 Main Triad Neighborhood Crips created in 1987, Den Haag The Netherlands, under the name C.U.C crazy underground crips. True the years C.U.C had several name changes as follow, M.T.C Main Triad crips , Rollin200. Rollin200 decided to merge with Trailer Trash MC, to create calohwagoh Main Triad mc

_ references

eight tray gangster crips

https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/crips-nl/1001004001951215/ available in library only

Traynity

https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false

Rollin200

https://books.google.nl/books?id=MRMnio7vQGUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=eight+tray+crips+nederland&source=bl&ots=1I9a7aRzcH&sig=ACfU3U2dvmIl1wgN3qyytGOEvYuMTjSLNA&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHo9TgobLhAhVCalAKHRO3D50Q6AEwFnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=eight%20tray%20crips%20nederland&f=false

http://calohwagohmc.com/r200nhc/ https://www.bol.com/nl/p/crips-nl/1001004001951215/ Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 20:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to make my self clear, i didn't came here to mingle with you. This is starting to seem as a personal attack, Usually your right on top of my posts, i wonder why not yesterday, other then you washing your hands as you stated before. I done everything you asked for, tried to resolve the revert and contribute to wiki, had two editors on the helpdesk telling me to go for it and one of them confirming my claims, yet we still her.

I would like to remind you, even though you might of created the page, you do not have ownership and can not revert edits without valid reasons. And for you not being able to read nor speak dutch to confirm my claims isn't a valid reason and actually isn't my problem, edits are meant to correct or to be challenged, not simply reverted based on personal short comings, or personal opinions, you nor any editor is Authority of any wiki pages. and statements examples like "I haven't had time to confirm what you wrote." is an ownership behavior. waiting for an approval of a Helpdesk user is a form of multiple ownership behavior

Ownership of content

No one "owns" content (including articles or any page at Wikipedia). If you create or edit an article, others can make changes, and you cannot prevent them from doing so. In addition, you should not undo their edits without good reason

You should

Always avoid accusations, attacks, and speculations concerning the motivation of any editor I think you are aware of Please do not bite the newcomers

Basically I'm declining your advice and will proceed with the editing, and will request from you NOT to revert due to you not being able to confirm due to language barriers, i would rather see you help me out to put it in the list, or correct small mistakes of linking issues. Apronsoftherestricted (talk) 07:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for your help on Chicago. Not to sound uppity, but may I suggest you disengage at the editor's talk? His unblock request does not address the reason for blocking (not saying anything more per BEANS). And the DUCK quacks loudly too. No sense in stressing over it. Keep up your great work! Feel free to email me if you wish to discuss this further. John from Idegon (talk) 18:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@John from Idegon: Yes, the duck does quack loudly with this one. Thanks. General Ization ^Talk 18:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]