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:Thank you for your support. Yeah, I recently became aware of the blog. Our The Right Stuff newsletter was founded <u>before</u> the white supremacist blog. As to changing the name, I'm not inclined to capitulate to white supremacists particularly since I'm Black. I'm of the opinion that the phrase "the right stuff" should be "reclaimed" (as they say in multicultural studies). – [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]]<sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 01:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Thank you
Thank you for the barnstar. AgeOfPlantagenet (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Sister Jean
On 24 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sister Jean, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a bobblehead of Sister Jean, the chaplain for the Loyola Ramblers men's basketball team, sold for more than $300 on eBay? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sister Jean. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sister Jean), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Joice Hasselmann
Hello! Your submission of Joice Hasselmann at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Lionelt, please return to this nomination as soon as possible; there are issues that you need to address. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:49, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra
Hello! Your submission of National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I promoted the hook, and then realized it was over 200 characters. I piped the link. If you want to do it another way, please let me know. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Ichthus June 2018
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Project news
By Lionelt
Here are discussions relevant to the Project:
- Liberty University has an RFC regarding the university's relationship with President Trump; see discussion
- Is Genesis History? has an RFC regarding acceptability of movie reviews for inclusion; see discussion
- United States pro-life movement has a requested move to United States anti-abortion movement; see discussion
The following articles need reviewers for GA-class: Type of Constans nom. by Gog the Mild, Tian Feng (magazine) nom. by Finnusertop. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project
Did You Know
Nominated by Gonzonoir
... that in 1636, Phineas Hodson, Chancellor of York Minster, lost his 38-year-old wife Jane during the birth of the couple's 24th child?
Featured article
Nominated by Cliftonian
The Mortara case was a controversy precipitated by the Papal States' seizure of Edgardo Mortara, a six-year-old Jewish child, from his family in Bologna, Italy, in 1858. The city's inquisitor, Father Pier Feletti, heard from a servant that she had administered emergency baptism to the boy when he fell sick as an infant, and the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition held that this made the child irrevocably a Catholic. Because the Papal States had forbidden the raising of Christians by members of other faiths, it was ordered that he be taken from his family and brought up by the Church. After visits from the child's father, international protests mounted, but Pope Pius IX would not be moved. The boy grew up as a Catholic with the Pope as a substitute father, trained for the priesthood in Rome until 1870, and was ordained in France three years later. In 1870 the Kingdom of Italy captured Rome during the unification of Italy, ending the pontifical state; opposition across Italy, Europe and the United States over Mortara's treatment may have contributed to its downfall. (Full article...)
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Delivered: 11:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Re: 3RR block
I just came across the editor with 4 reverts on the article, left him a note, and blocked him for 24 hours per WP:3RR. I'm sorry if you feel I reverted to the WP:WRONGVERSION. I'm sure there will be a discussion on the talk page as to which version is the right version going forward. Andrevan@ 01:08, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- 3RR is a bright-line rule. The user's only edits are violating 3RR. The user may request unblock if they wish. Andrevan@ 01:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't block him under the 1RR or special edit warring discretionary sanctions, just the regular 3RR. Andrevan@ 01:28, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- The only way you get to 4 reverts is by counting 2 consecutive edits as separate reverts. But they're not separate, they count as a single revert which you'd know if you had any business being an administrator. Even worse, the article is under 1RR. 1RR is the bright line; so you managed the right outcome only by being wrong twice! Realistically you have two options - resign or be forced out. The former saves our time and your dignity. 192.40.95.30 (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
DYK for National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra
On 10 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at oral argument in NIFLA v. Becerra, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan questioned whether a California law was "gerrymandered" in order to discriminate against crisis pregnancy centers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Mass message sender granted
Hello. Your account has been granted the "massmessage-sender" user right, allowing you to send messages to multiple users at once. A few important things to note:
- Messages should only be sent to groups of users who are likely to be interested in the topic.
- For regular mailings such as those for WikiProjects, localized events, or newsletters, users should be informed of how they can unsubscribe from future mailings.
- The mass messaging tool should never be used for canvassing with the intention of influencing the outcome of discussions.
For more information, refer to the guidance for use. If you do not want mass message sender rights anymore, just let me or any other administrator know and we will remove it. Thank you and happy editing! — xaosflux Talk 13:26, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Some special notes
Hi Lionelt, just wanted to give you a few special notes and tips on this.
- You should create a "test" mailing list with just yourself and maybe 1 other person on it, and use it to test your mailings.
- After sending a mailing, check if any layout on the talk page has been broken, especially when replying to that section, or creating another section. (This could be caused by bad or mismatched html tags for example).
- If you want to help at WT:MMS and send mailings for others, that is great - but take care that anything you send on their behalf is appropriate.
- Certainly check the page and even do a test to yourself if you are not sure.
- Check their recipient list, especially checking how was it created? (E.g. anything opted in to is generally safe, a load of project participants that signed up are usually as well -- a list that was only edited by the requester, and its not clear where the recipients came from- this is suspect).
- Consider adding a html comment at the end of the message, like
<!-- Message requested by User:Username at WT:MMS-->
- Be sure there is a timestamp in the message, normally near the bottom - these are used by archiving bots.
Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
The Right Stuff June 2018
By Lionelt
Fellow members, I'm pleased to announce the return of the newsletter of WikiProject Conservatism. And considering the recent downsizing at The Signpost the timing could not be better. The Right Stuff will help keep you apprised of what's happening in conservatism at Wikipedia and in the world. The Right Stuff welcomes submissions including position pieces, instructional articles, or short essays addressing important conservatism-related issues. Post submissions here.
Add the Project Discussion page to your watchlist for the latest updates at WikiProject Conservatism (Discuss this story)By Lionelt
After a series of unfortunate events largely self-created, bureaucrat and admin Andrevan was the subject of an Arbitration case for conduct unbecoming. Prior to the case getting underway Andrevan resigned as bureaucrat and admin. A widely discussed incident was when he suggested that some editors he described as "pro-Trump" were paid Russian agents. This resulted in a number of editors from varied quarters denouncing the allegations and voicing support for veteran editors including Winkelvi and the notorious MONGO.
Editors who faced Enforcement action include SPECIFICO (no action), Factchecker atyourservice (three month topic ban ARBAPDS), Netoholic (no action) and Anythingyouwant (indef topic ban ARBAPDS). (Discuss this story)By Lionelt
Breitbart News, in response to Facebook's decision to use Wikipedia as a source to fight fake news, has declared war on our beloved pedia. The article in Haaretz describes the Facebook arrangement as Wikipedia's "greatest test in years" as well as a "massive threat" to the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Breitbart's targeting of Wikipedia has resulted in an "epic battle" with respect to editing at the Breitbart article. The article has also recently experienced a dramatic increase in traffic with 50,000 visitors according to Haaretz. There is no love lost between Breitbart and Wikipedia where editors at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard have criticized the news websites unreliability and have compared it to The Daily Mail. (Discuss this story)By Lionelt
- There is an RFC regarding Liberty University and its relationship to President Trump; see discussion
- Activist and commentator Avi Yemini is listed at AFD; see discussion
Delivered: 11:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- Good job with this!!!!! Glad to have it back. --Chlorineer (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- This is great! Kudos! CsikosLo (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Sandbox
Hi Lionelt, I published the article in my sandbox. Thanks!--Biografix (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Your revert
Hi, Could you explain why you reverted my edit? You did not leave an edit summary. –dlthewave ☎ 12:41, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa
On 17 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa's feminist group New Wave Feminists was removed as a partner of the 2017 Women's March after organizers discovered the group was pro-life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
25 DYK nominations medal
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Ruddock
It seems pretty absurd as an Australian to rank a not-particularly-influential, if long-serving Australian Cabinet minister as "high importance" in the scheme of international conservative politics on the basis that they were Father of the House (a little-known courtesy title) - but if you want to do strange things, I'm not going to stop you. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions FAQ
Thanks for the link! It's far far more user friendly than the default alert. I've made a couple of changes - mostly minor grammars tweak which I hope you won't object to, plus added a link to explain what 1RR is as I had to look up what that meant. 人族 (talk) 04:55, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Correcting, per request
[1] - no. I voluntarily agreed not to edit the article Donald Trump for one week. This does not apply to the talk page, nor does it apply to the Presidency of Donald Trump article.Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I'm currently reviewing this nomination, and partly due to concerns raised by FallingGravity, I've struck both of the hooks. As you were involved in the nomination, your feedback and immediate response is appreciated. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:48, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
List of American Conservatives and 1776
Would you care to join this discussion? Some seem to believe that conservatism began in 1776 and want more of the Founding Fathers in the article. They oppose the 1932 cutoff. --GHcool (talk) 22:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Ichthus: July 2018
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The Top 7 report
By Lionelt
The big news was the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The Top 7 most popular articles in WikiProject Christianity were:
- Elizabeth I of England – legendary monarch who ushered in the Elizabethan Era over the dead body of her half-sister (#5)
- Henry VIII of England – on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
- Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
- Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
- Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
- Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is {{dubious}}
- Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"
Did you know
Nominated by The C of E
... that the little-known 1758 Methodist hymn "Sun of Unclouded Righteousness" asks God to send the doctrine of the "Unitarian fiend ... back to hell", referring to both Islam and Unitarianism?
Our newest Featured list
Nominated by Freikorp
List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events. Predictions of apocalyptic events that would result in the extinction of humanity, a collapse of civilization, or the destruction of the planet have been made since at least the beginning of the Christian Era. Most predictions are related to Abrahamic religions, often standing for or similar to the eschatological events described in their scriptures. Christian predictions typically refer to events like the Rapture, Great Tribulation, Last Judgment, and the Second Coming of Christ.
Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be nuclear war, while experts thought it would be artificial intelligence. Between one and three percent of people from both countries thought the apocalypse would be caused by zombies or alien invasion. (more...)
Help wanted
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Discuss any of the above stories here • For submissions contact the Newsroom • Unsubscribe here
Delivered: 06:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
The Right Stuff: July 2018
By Lionelt
WikiProject Conservatism was a topic of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard/Incident (AN/I). Objective3000 started a thread where he expressed concern regarding the number of RFC notices posted on the Discussion page suggesting that such notices "could result in swaying consensus by selective notification." Several editors participated in the relatively abbreviated six hour discussion. The assertion that the project is a "club for conservatives" was countered by editors listing examples of users who "profess no political persuasion." It was also noted that notification of WikiProjects regarding ongoing discussions is explicitly permitted by the WP:Canvassing guideline.
At one point the discussion segued to feedback about The Right Stuff. Member SPECIFICO wrote: "One thing I enjoy about the Conservatism Project is the handy newsletter that members receive on our talk pages." Atsme praised the newsletter as "first-class entertainment...BIGLY...first-class...nothing even comes close...it's amazing." Some good-natured sarcasm was offered with Objective3000 observing, "Well, they got the color right" and MrX's followup, "Wow. Yellow is the new red."
Admin Oshwah closed the thread with the result "definitely not an issue for ANI" and directing editors to the project Discussion page for any further discussion. Editor's note: originally the design and color of The Right Stuff was chosen to mimic an old, paper newspaper.
Add the Project Discussion page to your watchlist for the "latest RFCs" at WikiProject Conservatism (Discuss this story)By Lionelt
Margaret Thatcher is the first article promoted at the new WikiProject Conservatism A-Class review. Congratulations to Neveselbert. A-Class is a quality rating which is ranked higher than GA (Good article) but the criteria are not as rigorous as FA (Featued article). WikiProject Conservatism is one of only two WikiProjects offering A-Class review, the other being WikiProject Military History. Nominate your article here. (Discuss this story)By Lionelt
Reprinted in part from the April 26, 2018 issue of The Signpost; written by Zarasophos
Out of over one hundred questioned editors, only twenty-seven (27%) are happy with the way reports of conflicts between editors are handled on the Administrators' Incident Noticeboard (AN/I), according to a recent survey . The survey also found that dissatisfaction has varied reasons including "defensive cliques" and biased administrators as well as fear of a "boomerang effect" due to a lacking rule for scope on AN/I reports. The survey also included an analysis of available quantitative data about AN/I. Some notable takeaways:
- 53% avoided making a report due to fearing it would not be handled appropriately
- "Otherwise 'popular' users often avoid heavy sanctions for issues that would get new editors banned."
- "Discussions need to be clerked to keep them from raising more problems than they solve."
In the wake of Zarasophos' article editors discussed the AN/I survey at The Signpost and also at AN/I. Ironically a portion of the AN/I thread was hatted due to "off-topic sniping." To follow-up the problems identified by the research project the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team and Support and Safety team initiated a discussion. You can express your thoughts and ideas here.
(Discuss this story)Delivered: 09:27, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Why is MediaWiki message delivery delivering "The Right Stuff" to the sandbox?
Hi, Lionel. See [2]. That can't be right. Some misclick? I tried the message delivery talkpage, but it asked me to take it to you. Bishonen | talk 10:48, 9 July 2018 (UTC).
- That was a test. Sometimes I do a test run before the live mailing. This time around the pie chart wasn't previewing correctly in the mass message preview screen so I tested it. – Lionel(talk) 10:56, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Joice Hasselmann
Hello! Your submission of Joice Hasselmann at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
The Right Stuff
Hi,
I really appreciate what you do with the newsletter. Just a suggestion though, unfortunately "The Right Stuff" is also the name of The Right Stuff (blog), a white supremacist blog, so it might be wise to perhaps considering changing the name as some people may try to draw connections.
Really unfortunate that this kind of stuff happens.
Marquis de Faux (talk) 22:56, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your support. Yeah, I recently became aware of the blog. Our The Right Stuff newsletter was founded before the white supremacist blog. As to changing the name, I'm not inclined to capitulate to white supremacists particularly since I'm Black. I'm of the opinion that the phrase "the right stuff" should be "reclaimed" (as they say in multicultural studies). – Lionel(talk) 01:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)