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{{Use British English|date=July 2016}}
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{{Infobox musical artist
{{Infobox musical artist
| name = The Ethical Debating Society
| name = The Ethical Debating Society
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| years_active = 2009-present
| years_active = 2009-present
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| origin = [[London]], [[England]]
| origin = [[London]], [[England]]
| genre = [[Riot grrrl]], [[punk rock|punk]], [[post punk]]
| genre = [[Riot grrrl]], [[punk rock|punk]], [[post punk]]
| label = [[Odd Box Records|Odd Box]], [[Tuff Enuff Records|Tuff Enuff]], [[HHBTM]]
| label = [[Odd Box Records|Odd Box]], [[Tuff Enuff Records|Tuff Enuff]], [[HHBTM]]
| website = [http://theethicaldebatingsociety.bandcamp.com/ TEDS Bandcamp]
| website = [http://theethicaldebatingsociety.bandcamp.com/ TEDS Bandcamp]
| current_members = Tegan Christmas<br>Eli Caballero<br>Kris Martin<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.discogs.com/artist/2854159-Ethical-Debating-Society-The%20Discogs|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=discogs.com|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref>
| current_members = Tegan Christmas<br>Eli Tupa<br>Kris Martin
| past_members = Rob Macabre<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.discogs.com/Ethical-Debating-Society-The-Ethical-Debating-Society/release/4666320|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=discogs.com|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><br>Lauren Darling<br>Chris Morris<br>Su<ref>https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2011/03/16/winning-the-argument-the-ethical-debating-society/</ref>
| past_members = Rob Macabre<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.discogs.com/Ethical-Debating-Society-The-Ethical-Debating-Society/release/4666320|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=discogs.com|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><br>Lauren Darling<br>Chris Morris<br>Su<ref>https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2011/03/16/winning-the-argument-the-ethical-debating-society/</ref>
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''' The Ethical Debating Society''' are a three-piece [[DIY culture|DIY]] [[punk rock|punk]], post-[[riot grrrl]]{{r|guardian}} group from [[London]], [[England]].{{r|norman|hackney}} They have been described as "one of the most exciting DIY bands" in the [[UK]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.gigslutz.co.uk/interview-ethical-debating-society/|title=INTERVIEW: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Gigslutz|date=2016|first=Gabriel|last=Ebulue|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref>
''' The Ethical Debating Society''' (aka T.E.D.S.<ref>https://www.thezineuk.co.uk/single-post/2016/08/07/LOUD-WOMEN-Fest-%E2%80%93-September-2016-London</ref>) are a three-piece [[DIY culture|DIY]] [[punk rock|punk]], post-[[riot grrrl]]{{r|guardian}} group from [[London]], [[England]].{{r|norman|hackney}} They have been described as "one of the most exciting DIY bands" in the [[UK]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.gigslutz.co.uk/interview-ethical-debating-society/|title=INTERVIEW: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Gigslutz|date=2016|first=Gabriel|last=Ebulue|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref>


==History==
==History==
The band was formed in 2009 by Tegan Christmas with Lauren Darling and Chris Morris.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.musicosity.co.uk/node/3725|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Musicosity|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> By 2010 Darling and Morris had left and Tegan continued with varying line ups<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.buzzinmusic.co.uk/the-ethical-debating-society-punk-rock-riot-grrrl/5185|title=The Ethical Debating Society - Punk Rock Riot Grrrl!|publisher=Buzzin Music|first=Terry|last=Lane|date=2012-03-09|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> until the group settled as Tegan with Eli Caballero and Kris Martin in 2013.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.indietracks.co.uk/indietracks-interview-4-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=Indietracks interview #4: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Indietracks|date=2015-05-29|access-date=2016-05-10|first=Mike|last=Noon}}</ref>
The band was formed in 2009 by Tegan Christmas with Lauren Darling and Chris Morris.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.musicosity.co.uk/node/3725|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Musicosity|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> They received an early name-check in [[The Guardian]] from [[Everett True]].<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/sep/14/myths-riot-grrrl-cribs-takeover</ref> By 2010 Darling and Morris had left and Tegan continued with varying line ups<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.buzzinmusic.co.uk/the-ethical-debating-society-punk-rock-riot-grrrl/5185|title=The Ethical Debating Society - Punk Rock Riot Grrrl!|publisher=Buzzin Music|first=Terry|last=Lane|date=2012-03-09|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> until the group settled as Tegan with Eli Tupa<ref>http://www.allmusic.com/album/riot-grrrl-christmas-mw0002892052/credits</ref> and Kris Martin<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.discogs.com/artist/2854159-Ethical-Debating-Society-The%20Discogs|title=The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=discogs.com|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> in 2013.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.indietracks.co.uk/indietracks-interview-4-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=Indietracks interview #4: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=Indietracks|date=2015-05-29|access-date=2016-05-10|first=Mike|last=Noon}}</ref>


Following an appearance on [[Tuff Enuff Records]]’s debut compilation ''Why Diet When You Could Riot?'',<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/reviews/albums-reviews/various-why-diet-when-you-could-riot-tuff-enuff/|title=Album reviews: Various - Why Diet When You Could Riot? (Tuff Enuff)|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|date=2012-09-23|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> gigs with [[Shrag]] and ([[Athens, Georgia]]’s) Tunabunny led to a split [[single (music)|single]] with London’s [[Skinny Girl Diet]] on [[Happy Happy Birthday To Me Records]] in 2013.<ref name=girlsare_2013_split>{{cite web|url=http://www.thegirlsare.com/2013/06/07/review-skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society/|title=Review: Skinny Girl Diet/The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=the girls are|date=2013-06-07|first=Stephanie|last=Phillips|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/storefront/2013/06/graded-on-a-curve-skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-split-7-inch-ep/|title=Graded on a Curve: Skinny Girl Diet, Ethical Debating Society, split 7-inch EP|publisher=The Vinyl District|date=2013-06-05|first=Joseph|last=Neph|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bigtakeover.com/recordings/skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-split-7-hhbtm|publisher=The Big Takeover|title=Skinny Girl Diet/Ethical Debating Society - split 7" (HHBTM)|date=2013-07-12|first=Chuck|last=Foster|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> A cassette/download [[Extended Play|EP]] on Tuff Enuff - "Hens Teeth" - followed in 2014.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thegirlsare.com/2014/10/18/read-all-about-it-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=Read All About It: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=the girls are|date=2014-10-18|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref>
The band played a number of early gigs around the [[UK]] [[queercore]] scene, with [[Ste McCabe]] and others;<ref>https://joinourteaparty.org/2011/08/</ref><ref>http://www.fasthearts.com/category/Listen-To-This/</ref> following an appearance on [[Brighton]] queercore label [[Tuff Enuff Records]]’s 2012 compilation ''Why Diet When You Could Riot?''<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/reviews/albums-reviews/various-why-diet-when-you-could-riot-tuff-enuff/|title=Album reviews: Various - Why Diet When You Could Riot? (Tuff Enuff)|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|date=2012-09-23|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> gigs with [[Shrag]] and ([[Athens, Georgia]]’s) Tunabunny led to a split [[single (music)|single]] with London’s [[Skinny Girl Diet]] on [[Happy Happy Birthday To Me Records]] in 2013.<ref name=girlsare_2013_split>{{cite web|url=http://www.thegirlsare.com/2013/06/07/review-skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society/|title=Review: Skinny Girl Diet/The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=the girls are|date=2013-06-07|first=Stephanie|last=Phillips|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/storefront/2013/06/graded-on-a-curve-skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-split-7-inch-ep/|title=Graded on a Curve: Skinny Girl Diet, Ethical Debating Society, split 7-inch EP|publisher=The Vinyl District|date=2013-06-05|first=Joseph|last=Neph|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bigtakeover.com/recordings/skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-split-7-hhbtm|publisher=The Big Takeover|title=Skinny Girl Diet/Ethical Debating Society - split 7" (HHBTM)|date=2013-07-12|first=Chuck|last=Foster|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> A cassette/download [[Extended Play|EP]] on Tuff Enuff - "Hens Teeth" - followed in 2014.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thegirlsare.com/2014/10/18/read-all-about-it-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=Read All About It: The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=the girls are|date=2014-10-18|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref>


In 2015, The Ethical Debating Society's debut album ''New Sense'' was released on [[Odd Box Records]] following audio and video previews,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://overblown.co.uk/the-ethical-debating-society-cover-up-overblown-track-premiere/|title=The Ethical Debating Society - Cover Up (Oberblown Track Premiere)|date=2015-05-20|first=Jamie|last=Coughlan|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://alreadyheard.com/post/123112121993/already-heard-video-premiere-the-ethical-debating|title==Already Heard Video Premiere: The Ethical Debating Society - Sum Of My Parts|publisher=Already Heard|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> and received positive reviews from SoundsXP,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://soundsxp.com/artman2/publish/albums/The_Ethical_Debating_Society_-_New_Sense_Album_Review.shtml|title=The Ethical Debating Society New Sense Album Review|publisher=SoundsXP|date=2015-07-05|first=Kev|last=W|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> Collapse Board,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/song-of-the-day-2/the-return-of-everett-true-141-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=The return of Everett True : 141. The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|first=Everett|last=True|date=2015-04-06|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> Louder Than War<ref>{{cite web|url=http://louderthanwar.com/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense-album-review/|title=The Ethical Debating Society 'New Sense' album review|publisher=Louder Than War|date=2015-02-15|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> and others,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://stereosanctity.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense.html|date=2015-09-17|title=The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense LP|publisher=Stereo Sancity|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://beautifulfreaks.nl/reviews/2015/07/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense/|title=The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense|publisher=Beautiful Freaks|date=2015-07-16|first=Caspar|last=Jacobs|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collective-zine.co.uk/reviews/?id=10102|title=The Ethical Debating Society: New Sense|publisher=Collective Zine|date=2015-07-29|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.radioshower.com/2015/07/new-lp-highlight-ethical-debating.html|title=NEW! LP HIGHLIGHT: The Ethical Debating Society - New Sense|publisher=Interstellar Radio Shower|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>http://www.fearandloathingfanzine.com/record-reviews-september-december-2015.html</ref> with radio support including [[BBC Radio 6]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/d9327d3a-4320-4ccb-90a2-3d48eaf23ecf|title=The Ethical Debating Society |publisher=BBC Music|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> [[Dandelion Radio|Dandelion]] and [[Artrocker]] Radio.
In 2015, The Ethical Debating Society's debut album ''New Sense'' was released on [[Odd Box Records]] following audio and video previews,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://overblown.co.uk/the-ethical-debating-society-cover-up-overblown-track-premiere/|title=The Ethical Debating Society - Cover Up (Oberblown Track Premiere)|date=2015-05-20|first=Jamie|last=Coughlan|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://alreadyheard.com/post/123112121993/already-heard-video-premiere-the-ethical-debating|title==Already Heard Video Premiere: The Ethical Debating Society - Sum Of My Parts|publisher=Already Heard|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> and received positive reviews from SoundsXP,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://soundsxp.com/artman2/publish/albums/The_Ethical_Debating_Society_-_New_Sense_Album_Review.shtml|title=The Ethical Debating Society New Sense Album Review|publisher=SoundsXP|date=2015-07-05|first=Kev|last=W|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> Collapse Board,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/song-of-the-day-2/the-return-of-everett-true-141-the-ethical-debating-society/|title=The return of Everett True : 141. The Ethical Debating Society|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|first=Everett|last=True|date=2015-04-06|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> Louder Than War<ref>{{cite web|url=http://louderthanwar.com/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense-album-review/|title=The Ethical Debating Society 'New Sense' album review|publisher=Louder Than War|date=2015-02-15|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> and others,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://stereosanctity.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense.html|date=2015-09-17|title=The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense LP|publisher=Stereo Sancity|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://beautifulfreaks.nl/reviews/2015/07/the-ethical-debating-society-new-sense/|title=The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense|publisher=Beautiful Freaks|date=2015-07-16|first=Caspar|last=Jacobs|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collective-zine.co.uk/reviews/?id=10102|title=The Ethical Debating Society: New Sense|publisher=Collective Zine|date=2015-07-29|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.radioshower.com/2015/07/new-lp-highlight-ethical-debating.html|title=NEW! LP HIGHLIGHT: The Ethical Debating Society - New Sense|publisher=Interstellar Radio Shower|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>http://www.fearandloathingfanzine.com/record-reviews-september-december-2015.html</ref> with radio support including [[BBC Radio 6]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/d9327d3a-4320-4ccb-90a2-3d48eaf23ecf|title=The Ethical Debating Society |publisher=BBC Music|access-date=2016-05-10}}</ref> [[Dandelion Radio|Dandelion]] and [[Artrocker]] Radio.


The band have been likened to other dual male/female vocal DIY [[independent music|indie]]/punk bands such as [[Huggy Bear (band)|Huggy Bear]], [[Red Monkey (band)|Red Monkey]], [[Comet Gain]], [[Bis (band)|Bis]] and [[Prolapse (band)|Prolapse]], as well as [[post-hardcore]] and [[indie rock]] bands such as [[Future of the Left]], [[Sleater-Kinney]], [[Nation of Ulysses]], [[Pixies (band)|Pixies]] and [[Nirvana]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://crashingthroughpublicity.com/skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-review-at-dynamite-hemorrhage/|title=Skinny Girl Diet / Ethical Debating Society review at Dynamite Hemorrhage|publisher=Crashing Through Publicity|date=2014-01-20|access-date=2016-05-11|first=Erika|last=Elizabeth}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/features/best-of-2013/erika-elizabeth-obligatory-backwards-gazing-for-2013/first=Erika|last=Elizabeth|title=obligatory backwards gazing for 2013|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|date=2013-12-24|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://londonist.com/2013/05/air-guitars-at-the-ready-part-two-three-more-london-bands-to-watch.php|title=Air Guitars At The Ready Part Two: Three More London Bands To Watch |publisher=Londonist|date=2013-05-24|access-date=2016-05-11|first=Chris|last=Lockie}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4149175-indietracks-2015--a-preview|title=Indietracks 2005: A Preview|date=2015-07-10|first=Dom|last=Gourlay|publisher=Drowned in Sound|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://louderthanwar.com/prolapse-slum-of-legs-the-ethical-debating-society-brighton-live-review|title=Prolapse : Slum Of Legs : The Ethical Debating Society : Brighton : live review|publisher=Louder Than War|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|date=2015-06-25|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref>
The band have been likened to other dual male/female vocal DIY [[independent music|indie]]/punk bands such as [[Huggy Bear (band)|Huggy Bear]], [[Red Monkey (band)|Red Monkey]], [[Comet Gain]], [[Bis (band)|Bis]] and [[Prolapse (band)|Prolapse]], as well as [[post-hardcore]] and [[indie rock]] groups such as [[Future of the Left]], [[Sleater-Kinney]], [[Nation of Ulysses]], [[Pixies (band)|Pixies]] and [[Nirvana]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://crashingthroughpublicity.com/skinny-girl-diet-ethical-debating-society-review-at-dynamite-hemorrhage/|title=Skinny Girl Diet / Ethical Debating Society review at Dynamite Hemorrhage|publisher=Crashing Through Publicity|date=2014-01-20|access-date=2016-05-11|first=Erika|last=Elizabeth}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.collapseboard.com/features/best-of-2013/erika-elizabeth-obligatory-backwards-gazing-for-2013/first=Erika|last=Elizabeth|title=obligatory backwards gazing for 2013|publisher=COLLAPSE BOARD|date=2013-12-24|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://londonist.com/2013/05/air-guitars-at-the-ready-part-two-three-more-london-bands-to-watch.php|title=Air Guitars At The Ready Part Two: Three More London Bands To Watch |publisher=Londonist|date=2013-05-24|access-date=2016-05-11|first=Chris|last=Lockie}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4149175-indietracks-2015--a-preview|title=Indietracks 2005: A Preview|date=2015-07-10|first=Dom|last=Gourlay|publisher=Drowned in Sound|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://louderthanwar.com/prolapse-slum-of-legs-the-ethical-debating-society-brighton-live-review|title=Prolapse : Slum Of Legs : The Ethical Debating Society : Brighton : live review|publisher=Louder Than War|first=Ngaire|last=Ruth|date=2015-06-25|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref> and various punk and anarcho punk bands.<ref>http://www.buzzinmusic.co.uk/the-ethical-debating-society-punk-rock-riot-grrrl/5185</ref>


The band supported [[Jack Off Jill]] at their final show, at [[Heaven (nightclub)|Heaven]] in London, and played with [[Shonen Knife]] on the London date of that band's 2016 tour. They played at [[Indietracks]] 2015, and have also played with [[The Wolfhounds]], [[The Nightingales]], [[The Homosexuals]], [[Hagar the Womb]], Prolapse, and Bis.
The band were chosen by [[Jessicka]] to support [[Jack Off Jill]] at their final show, at [[Heaven (nightclub)|Heaven]] in London, and played with [[Shonen Knife]] on the London date of that band's 2016 tour. They played at [[Indietracks]] 2015, and have also played with [[The Wolfhounds]], [[The Nightingales]], [[The Homosexuals]], [[Hagar the Womb]], Prolapse, and Bis.


The Ethical Debating Society's album track "Razor Party" (written by former drummer Rob) was voted #32 in the 2015 [[John Peel]] memorial '[[Festive 50]]' compiled by [[Dandelion Radio]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.dandelionradio.com/2015festive50.htm|title=2015 Festive Fifty results|publisher=Dandelion Radio|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref>
The Ethical Debating Society's album track "Razor Party" (written by former drummer Rob) was voted #32 in the 2015 [[John Peel]] memorial '[[Festive 50]]' compiled by [[Dandelion Radio]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.dandelionradio.com/2015festive50.htm|title=2015 Festive Fifty results|publisher=Dandelion Radio|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref>

In 2017 the band released a number of new tracks, beginning with a contribution to Loud Women Records' ''Loud Women - Volume One'' compilation;<ref>{{cite web|url=http://grrrlswithguitars.com/loud-women-volume-one/|title=Loud Women – Volume One (Album Review Part 1)|author=Hannah|date=2017-01-27|accessdate=2017-02-07}}</ref> another track was released on Kobayashi Nights Records' ''Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions'' compilation.<ref>https://fortherabbits.net/2017/02/08/premiere-kobayashi-nights-1-intergalactic-champions/</ref><ref>http://drownedinsound.com/releases/19859/reviews/4150864</ref> Digital download single "London Particular" was released in June 2017 as a benefit for the victims of the [[Grenfell Tower fire]].<ref>https://theethicaldebatingsociety.bandcamp.com/album/london-particular</ref>


==Discography==
==Discography==
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*"List of Requirements" on ''Odd Box 2015'', MP3 (2015)<ref>{{cite web|url=https://oddboxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/odd-box-2015|title=Odd Box 2015|publisher=Odd Box Records|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref>
*"List of Requirements" on ''Odd Box 2015'', MP3 (2015)<ref>{{cite web|url=https://oddboxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/odd-box-2015|title=Odd Box 2015|publisher=Odd Box Records|access-date=2016-05-11}}</ref>
*"Creosote Ideas" on ''Don't Be Left Without Us'', 2CD (2016)<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-46e7-Dont-be-left-without-these-Star-sounds#.VyMZGE0UXcs|title=Don't Be Left Without These Star Sounds|publisher=Morning Star|date=2016-04-25}}</ref>
*"Creosote Ideas" on ''Don't Be Left Without Us'', 2CD (2016)<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-46e7-Dont-be-left-without-these-Star-sounds#.VyMZGE0UXcs|title=Don't Be Left Without These Star Sounds|publisher=Morning Star|date=2016-04-25}}</ref>
*"Poor Liam" on ''Loud Women - Volume One'', Loud Women Records, CD, 2017<ref>{{cite web|url=http://grrrlswithguitars.com/loud-women-volume-one/|title=Loud Women – Volume One (Album Review Part 1)|author=Hannah|date=2017-01-27|accessdate=2017-02-07}}</ref>
*"Poor Liam" on ''Loud Women - Volume One'', Loud Women Records, CD, 2017
*"Paywall" on ''Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions'', Kobayashi Nights Records, CD, 2017<ref>https://fortherabbits.net/2017/02/08/premiere-kobayashi-nights-1-intergalactic-champions/</ref>
*"Paywall" on ''Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions'', Kobayashi Nights Records, CD, 2017


==Line up==
==Line up==
*Tegan Christmas (vocals, guitar)
*Tegan Christmas (vocals, guitar)
*Eli Caballero (drums)
*Eli Tupa (drums)
*Kris Martin (guitar, vocals)
*Kris Martin (guitar, vocals)


Revision as of 11:59, 19 July 2017

The Ethical Debating Society
OriginLondon, England
GenresRiot grrrl, punk, post punk
Years active2009-present
LabelsOdd Box, Tuff Enuff, HHBTM
MembersTegan Christmas
Eli Tupa
Kris Martin
Past membersRob Macabre[1]
Lauren Darling
Chris Morris
Su[2]
WebsiteTEDS Bandcamp

The Ethical Debating Society (aka T.E.D.S.[3]) are a three-piece DIY punk, post-riot grrrl[4] group from London, England.[5][6] They have been described as "one of the most exciting DIY bands" in the UK.[7]

History

The band was formed in 2009 by Tegan Christmas with Lauren Darling and Chris Morris.[8] They received an early name-check in The Guardian from Everett True.[9] By 2010 Darling and Morris had left and Tegan continued with varying line ups[10] until the group settled as Tegan with Eli Tupa[11] and Kris Martin[12] in 2013.[13]

The band played a number of early gigs around the UK queercore scene, with Ste McCabe and others;[14][15] following an appearance on Brighton queercore label Tuff Enuff Records’s 2012 compilation Why Diet When You Could Riot?[16] gigs with Shrag and (Athens, Georgia’s) Tunabunny led to a split single with London’s Skinny Girl Diet on Happy Happy Birthday To Me Records in 2013.[17][18][19] A cassette/download EP on Tuff Enuff - "Hens Teeth" - followed in 2014.[20]

In 2015, The Ethical Debating Society's debut album New Sense was released on Odd Box Records following audio and video previews,[21][22] and received positive reviews from SoundsXP,[23] Collapse Board,[24] Louder Than War[25] and others,[26][27][28][29][30] with radio support including BBC Radio 6,[31] Dandelion and Artrocker Radio.

The band have been likened to other dual male/female vocal DIY indie/punk bands such as Huggy Bear, Red Monkey, Comet Gain, Bis and Prolapse, as well as post-hardcore and indie rock groups such as Future of the Left, Sleater-Kinney, Nation of Ulysses, Pixies and Nirvana,[32][33][34][35][36] and various punk and anarcho punk bands.[37]

The band were chosen by Jessicka to support Jack Off Jill at their final show, at Heaven in London, and played with Shonen Knife on the London date of that band's 2016 tour. They played at Indietracks 2015, and have also played with The Wolfhounds, The Nightingales, The Homosexuals, Hagar the Womb, Prolapse, and Bis.

The Ethical Debating Society's album track "Razor Party" (written by former drummer Rob) was voted #32 in the 2015 John Peel memorial 'Festive 50' compiled by Dandelion Radio.[38]

In 2017 the band released a number of new tracks, beginning with a contribution to Loud Women Records' Loud Women - Volume One compilation;[39] another track was released on Kobayashi Nights Records' Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions compilation.[40][41] Digital download single "London Particular" was released in June 2017 as a benefit for the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire.[42]

Discography

Albums

  • New Sense – Odd Box (UK) 12" LP/MP3 (2015)

EPs/Singles

  • "Live" EP – self-released, CDr (2011)
  • Split EP - HHBTM Records, 7" (2013) [with Skinny Girl Diet][17]
  • "Hens Teeth" EP - Tuff Enuff Records, Cassette/MP3 (2014)

Compilation Appearances

  • "Kill You Last" on Why Diet When You Can Diet, Tuff Enuff Records, 12"LP/MP3 (2012)
  • "Kill You Last" on MC12, HHBTM Records, Cassette (2012)
  • "Future Imperfect" on Keroleen Mixtape #1, Keroleen Records, Cassette/MP3 (2015)[43]
  • "Cover Up" on Indietracks Compilation 2015, MP3 (2015)
  • "Riderrr" on Odd Box Weekender V, MP3 (2015)
  • "Run Rudolph Run" on Riot Grrrl Christmas, Cleopatra Records, CD/MP3 (2015)[44]
  • "List of Requirements" on Odd Box 2015, MP3 (2015)[45]
  • "Creosote Ideas" on Don't Be Left Without Us, 2CD (2016)[46]
  • "Poor Liam" on Loud Women - Volume One, Loud Women Records, CD, 2017
  • "Paywall" on Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions, Kobayashi Nights Records, CD, 2017

Line up

  • Tegan Christmas (vocals, guitar)
  • Eli Tupa (drums)
  • Kris Martin (guitar, vocals)

Previous members

  • Rob Macabre (drums, 2010-2012)
  • Su (percussion/bvs, 2010-2013)
  • Lauren Darling (guitar/vocals, 2009)
  • Chris Morris (drums, 2009)

References

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  3. ^ https://www.thezineuk.co.uk/single-post/2016/08/07/LOUD-WOMEN-Fest-%E2%80%93-September-2016-London
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