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Jackson was not second-in-command of 1 Para, as the article claims. He was the adjutant, which is not the same thing. And the sentence which comes after that false claim is not supported by the source cited. [[User:Khamba Tendal|Khamba Tendal]] ([[User talk:Khamba Tendal|talk]]) 18:47, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Jackson was not second-in-command of 1 Para, as the article claims. He was the adjutant, which is not the same thing. And the sentence which comes after that false claim is not supported by the source cited. [[User:Khamba Tendal|Khamba Tendal]] ([[User talk:Khamba Tendal|talk]]) 18:47, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
:Wouldn't surprise me. Feel free to amend the entries to better match what is actually said. Quite a lot of subtle and overt POV in these kinds of articles. [[User:Mabuska|Mabuska]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mabuska|(talk)]]</sup> 20:01, 23 April 2017 (UTC)


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More political bias.

Surprise surprise, my criticism of the political and historical bias in this article has been removed and I was "logged out" of Wikipedia. Clearly this article is being controlled by a biased moderator with a political skew or agenda.

If you cannot even debate in Talk an article, and discuss its overall historically accuracy and key facts, then Wikipedia cannot be taken seriously as an historical or academic reference source (as indeed it's not by most leading academic universities, certainly not by mine anyway, we're discouraged from referencing to it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.26.204 (talk) 13:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages are for discussing improvements to articles and for nothing else. You presented a number of critisisms and 'facts' but you failed to provide a reliable source for any of it. The current article, on the other hand, is well referenced, though it can always be improved. 86.149.141.166 (talk) 14:27, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What the IP address beginning with 86 said, IP address beginning with 89. Furthermore, nobody logged you out, you weren't logged in when you made your contribution of unverified "facts" and opinion, and still weren't logged in when you commented above. If there are any inaccuracies in the article, feel free to challenge or improve the sources. I do recommend creating an account and reading the five pillars, though. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"The dead"

This section title sounds weird to me. How about "Deaths" or "Casualties"?

Otherwise it sounds like the Walking Dead... 100.12.87.210 (talk) 13:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nuro Dragonfly Do you wish to comment here? 100.12.87.210 (talk) 13:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support change to "Casualties" for consistency across the wiki. ScrpIronIV 15:06, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - To be honest I feel it is..well not weird so much, but has a tone that's morbid. We are trying to have that Neutral stance, and considering the topic....
Nürö G'DÄŸ MÄTË 00:13, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Impact on Northern Ireland divisions section title

Would anyone object to this being renamed? Traditionally, the word "divide" in relation to Northern Ireland would refer to the division between Catholics and Protestants. While it is true Bloody Sunday would have had some impact on that relationship it was primarily the relationship between the Catholic population and the British Army, and to a lesser extent the British establishment as a whole. Perhaps a change to "Impact on the Troubles" or "Impact on Northern Ireland" would be more appropriate?DanceHallCrasher (talk) 18:34, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late interjection but I oppose your recent edit. Its affect continues to the present day so isn't confined to the Troubles so that is a poor title. Its impact is more in regards to the divide not the country as a whole as not everyone is seperated by the divide. Mabuska (talk) 19:12, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Northern Ireland divisions" is an equally, if not more, poor title.DanceHallCrasher (talk) 19:34, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As stated I disagree. Mabuska (talk) 11:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Jackson

Jackson was not second-in-command of 1 Para, as the article claims. He was the adjutant, which is not the same thing. And the sentence which comes after that false claim is not supported by the source cited. Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:47, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't surprise me. Feel free to amend the entries to better match what is actually said. Quite a lot of subtle and overt POV in these kinds of articles. Mabuska (talk) 20:01, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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