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I am personally endorsing and promoting this proposal, because I think that revert warring has become an absurd drain on us, and it has not worked for it to be a mere guideline of politeness, nor has it proved effective for the ArbCom to consider every single case of this. Violation of the 3RR is widely considered to be a problem in the community, even by those who are the worst violators. Jimbo Wales 03:05, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)


The purpose of this proposal is that the Arbitration Committee members (as a whole) want to reduce the load of 3RR violation cases they see.


If you violate the three revert rule, sysops may block you for up to 24 hours.
In the cases where both parties violate the rule, sysops should treat both sides equally.

This poll will last for 2 weeks, ending at 03:00 on November 28, 2004.

Yes

  1. Jimbo Wales 03:05, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  2. →Raul654 03:07, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  3. Martin 03:08, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  4. Grunt 🇪🇺 03:09, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)
  5. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 03:09, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Of course. --Conti| 03:13, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  7. Ambi 03:13, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  8. [[User:Rdsmith4|User:Rdsmith4/sig]] 03:14, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  9. Rje 03:14, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  10. Mattworld 03:19, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  11. Whoops, looked away and missed out on voting 4th. James F. (talk) 03:20, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  12. Antandrus 03:21, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  13. Graham ☺ | Talk 03:21, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  14. ClockworkTroll 03:22, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  15. Danny 03:23, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) with the addendum that I like Gzornenplatz's addition.
  16. Elian 03:25, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  17. Reene (リニ) 03:26, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  18. Shane King 03:38, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

No

  1. The "may" and the "up to" invites unequal and arbitrary enforcement. I would support a policy that says If you violate the three revert rule, sysops must block you for 24 hours. That means, if a violation is pointed out to a sysop who is obviously present, that sysop could not refuse to block the offender. Gzornenplatz 03:22, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
    • I haven't read any rule here on wikipedia which starts with "A sysop must..." yet. A sysop is not forced to remove vandalism if it is pointed out to him, but still almost every sysop removes vandalism on sight. Saying "you must" is pretty much impossible to enforce. --Conti| 03:31, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
    • Sysops do not have duties in particular, only as a whole and overall to the Community at large, and such a sea-change in the direction of policy is terribly major. A minor copy edit to policy it is not. James F. (talk) 03:34, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  2. No, because of the intemperate enforcement I've seen of the Anthony agreement. If any admin could undo it and it would then have to stay undone until there was consensus, that would be a different matter. Jamesday 03:24, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  3. Agree with Gzornenplatz. --Whosyourjudas (talk) 03:30, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)