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:::When I think of propaganda about nuclear power, I think of the nuclear industry's extensive public relations activities and lobbying efforts. As of 2014, the U.S. nuclear industry has began a new lobbying effort, hiring three former senators — [[Evan Bayh]], a Democrat; [[Judd Gregg]], a Republican; and [[Spencer Abraham]], a Republican — as well as [[William M. Daley]], a former staffer to President Obama. The initiative is called Nuclear Matters, and it has begun a newspaper advertising campaign.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/energy-environment/nuclear-industry-gains-carbon-focused-allies-in-push-to-save-reactors.html?_r=0 |title=Nuclear Industry Gains Carbon-Focused Allies in Push to Save Reactors |author=Matthew Wald |date=April 27, 2014 |work=New York Times }}</ref> [[User:Johnfos|Johnfos]] ([[User talk:Johnfos|talk]]) 09:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC) |
:::When I think of propaganda about nuclear power, I think of the nuclear industry's extensive public relations activities and lobbying efforts. As of 2014, the U.S. nuclear industry has began a new lobbying effort, hiring three former senators — [[Evan Bayh]], a Democrat; [[Judd Gregg]], a Republican; and [[Spencer Abraham]], a Republican — as well as [[William M. Daley]], a former staffer to President Obama. The initiative is called Nuclear Matters, and it has begun a newspaper advertising campaign.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/energy-environment/nuclear-industry-gains-carbon-focused-allies-in-push-to-save-reactors.html?_r=0 |title=Nuclear Industry Gains Carbon-Focused Allies in Push to Save Reactors |author=Matthew Wald |date=April 27, 2014 |work=New York Times }}</ref> [[User:Johnfos|Johnfos]] ([[User talk:Johnfos|talk]]) 09:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:::: [[Lobbying]] and [[propaganda]] are very different. The first is simply an act. The second is a damn dangerous form of communication. Who makes propaganda has no qualms to use loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The nuclear industry never makes propaganda (it attempts to influence decisions made by officials in the government). Antinuclearism is based heavily on propaganda: therefore it's followers rarely use rational arguments and are prone to really bad judgement. You have only to follow as antinuclearism has destroyed Italy's industry, economy and damaged the environment swapping to coal and gas. Lobbying is not bad: it can be controlled. Against propaganda, which works only where there is censorship, like in Germany and Italy (how many times antinuclear positions are confronted mainstream against nuclear acceptance ?) there is no defence. --[[User:Robertiki|Robertiki]] ([[User talk:Robertiki|talk]]) 00:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:::The 240 references and extensive bibliography make the article quite long, but it doesn't seem excessive at this stage. There is quite good use of [[WP:SS]]. [[User:Johnfos|Johnfos]] ([[User talk:Johnfos|talk]]) 11:19, 30 May 2014 (UTC) |
:::The 240 references and extensive bibliography make the article quite long, but it doesn't seem excessive at this stage. There is quite good use of [[WP:SS]]. [[User:Johnfos|Johnfos]] ([[User talk:Johnfos|talk]]) 11:19, 30 May 2014 (UTC) |
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forthcoming book? deleted
> Columban priest Fr Seán McDonagh's forthcoming book is entitled Is Fukushima the Death Knell for Nuclear Energy?.[1] <
But only found mention "He also finished a manuscript, Nuclear Power Post-Fukushima, and began the search for a publisher." [2] A forthcoming book with dead link seems out of place advertisement. -- so deleted.-Yohananw (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Mention of anti-nuclear movement leaders who have changed their minds ?
Seems an apology of the movement ? Suggestions or explanations ? --Robertiki (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Robert, in what way is the article an apology? Johnfos (talk) 11:10, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- For example, FOE is non anti-nuclear, but simply campaigns for solutions to environmental problems. If nuclear could be a solution, they would accept it: read "A hard-headed look at nuclear power".--Robertiki (talk) 04:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- For some more mainstream views of FOE opposition to nuclear, see Amory Lovins and Jim Green (activist). Johnfos (talk) 11:14, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, I found it, the article is really long, I interrupted reading before the last rows. Anyway, I think that it should be noted that there is a lot of propaganda against nuclear power. In Italy the main networks haven't spend one word in the last twenty years in defense of nuclear power, but every month, find place for a interview of some Greenpeace leader. In Germany, not better, also the trailer for last Godzilla film is a chance to debunk nuclear power. So, it is understable that Germans and Italians are really afraid of anything "nuclear". So we have this different perception held by the public and by engineers and experts: read "Perceptions and the social-political aspects of nuclear power and nuclear waste disposal" --Robertiki (talk) 05:21, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- When I think of propaganda about nuclear power, I think of the nuclear industry's extensive public relations activities and lobbying efforts. As of 2014, the U.S. nuclear industry has began a new lobbying effort, hiring three former senators — Evan Bayh, a Democrat; Judd Gregg, a Republican; and Spencer Abraham, a Republican — as well as William M. Daley, a former staffer to President Obama. The initiative is called Nuclear Matters, and it has begun a newspaper advertising campaign.[3] Johnfos (talk) 09:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Lobbying and propaganda are very different. The first is simply an act. The second is a damn dangerous form of communication. Who makes propaganda has no qualms to use loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The nuclear industry never makes propaganda (it attempts to influence decisions made by officials in the government). Antinuclearism is based heavily on propaganda: therefore it's followers rarely use rational arguments and are prone to really bad judgement. You have only to follow as antinuclearism has destroyed Italy's industry, economy and damaged the environment swapping to coal and gas. Lobbying is not bad: it can be controlled. Against propaganda, which works only where there is censorship, like in Germany and Italy (how many times antinuclear positions are confronted mainstream against nuclear acceptance ?) there is no defence. --Robertiki (talk) 00:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- The 240 references and extensive bibliography make the article quite long, but it doesn't seem excessive at this stage. There is quite good use of WP:SS. Johnfos (talk) 11:19, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- ^ Sean McDonagh (March 6, 2012). "After Fukushima, Vatican joins growing army of opponents of nuclear power". The Irish Times.
- ^ http://ncronline.org/news/people/irish-priest-latest-catholic-ecological-voice.
{{cite web}}: Missing or empty|title=(help) - ^ Matthew Wald (April 27, 2014). "Nuclear Industry Gains Carbon-Focused Allies in Push to Save Reactors". New York Times.




