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== Warning ==
== Warning ==
[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalize]] Wikipedia, {{#if:Beat It|as you did at [[:Beat It]],}} you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-vandalism3 --> We've been through this '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vitor_mazuco&diff=241797477&oldid=239374641 over]'''
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Beat It, you will be blocked from editing. We've been through this over and over and over again, in your old persona as Vitor mazuco (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). You must not add charts listed on WP:BADCHARTS. Do not add the Brazil Hot 100 to any articles ever again.—Kww(talk) 17:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The IFPI logo appears nowhere on http://www.hot100brasil.com/, and hot100brasil.com is not listed at http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_links/member_sites.html. The APBD is listed at http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_links/local_associations.html, but they have no connection with the Brazil Hot 100.—Kww(talk) 19:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the APBD is an official source of information, and is associated with the IFPI. The Hot 100 Brazil is not an official chart, and is not associated with the IFPI. It is listed on WP:BADCHARTS, and must not be included in any Wikipedia articles. If you want to try to change that, discuss it at WT:Record charts. As long as it is listed at WP:BADCHARTS, do not insert it into Wikipedia articles.—Kww(talk) 21:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are no Brazilian charts that can be included in Wikipedia.—Kww(talk) 01:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not just Brazil. Latvia, Lithuania, Peru, Chile, the Dominican Republic, all African countries, Luxembourg, Iceland, Vietnam, Indonesia ... probably a hundred more.—Kww(talk) 01:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's a chart for nearly all of the IFPI's top 30 markets. Brazil is the biggest missing country. I have no idea why there aren't any official countrywide charts for Brazil. The charts that are included in English Wikipedia cover over 90% of the world's music market when measured by sales.—Kww(talk) 02:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can read more Portuguese than you think. Most of those sites looked to be gossip/entertainment sites, so they won't help. We don't use Charly1300 charts on English Wikipedia either, so they won't help. Globo.com looks much better, and I know that it is a reliable news source. If you can show that Globo.com treats the Brasil Hot 100 as a real chart, and does so in many articles, that can be taken to WT:Record charts. I live in Bonaire, just a 100 kilometers north of Venezuela.—Kww(talk) 02:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you give me a list of Globo.com references to the Brasil Hot 100, I'll help you with getting people to talk about allowing it on Wikipedia.—Kww(talk) 02:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is about time for me to go to bed. I will look over the Globo links in the morning. I know that UOL will not meet our standards for being a reliable source, so I will just look at Globo.—Kww(talk) 02:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hot 100 coverage in Globo

Your link to Globo didn't turn out well. It showed 25 links, so I thought it would, but when I looked carefully, this is how the 25 links turned out:

Blog references
NesseInstante
Wanessa - 7084
Wanessa - 7085


The first set (blogs) don't count at all, because they are blogs. Still, notice that out of the 4 links, 3 of them are to the same post.

Then, there is one story from 2004 in NesseInstante.

Then, there is one story about Wanessa Camarga. It showed up twice, but with many, many links to the two versions. The two versions are really the same story.

This means that in Globo, there were two mentions of the Brazil Hot 100 in five years. None of them said anything about the Brazil Hot 100, such as who runs it, where they get the data, how they make the list. That's not enough. If you can find other reliable sources (not blogs, not gossip sites, not Wikis, not chart sites), I'll look at them. I can't try to convince people to change with just this.—Kww(talk) 12:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please, some sites that pass WP:RS: major newspapers or other news sources. It would be best if they answer the big questions about Hot 100 Brazil:
  • who runs it
  • where do they get the data
  • how they make the list.
—Kww(talk) 13:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

This looks very good. I'm glad to see something official. I can only find one week though: June 22-June 29. Can you see any other weeks? If it's only ten songs for one week, it doesn't help much.—Kww(talk) 13:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why they do that. Crowley Broadcast Analysis released one week for December 2008. It was the same problem: good chart, reliable source, but one week for ten songs doesn't do anyone any good.—Kww(talk) 18:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Very good! They didn't erase the earlier one, so now there is two weeks of charts. If they publish again next week, then I will update everything to tell people about this chart.—Kww(talk) 17:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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