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I reverted a series of edits begun July 18, back to the prior version, 01:02, July 1, 2008. I regret having to use such a blunt hammer, but the bulk of the new material (the article went from 31,053 bytes to 52,269) was either copies of press releases,[1], or other material that doesn't comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.[2] Major changes on a mature article like this require discussion and consensus. It's good to be bold but we didn't end up with a better article. Let's discuss any specific changes we want to make here, making sure that they comply with the norms of this project. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 11:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will, I propose we merge the 2 pages. Would you be able to archive all but the Merger proposal section on the Amway Talk page? Most of it is quite old and would be good to do the merger discussion with a clean slate. I'd do it myself but not too up on the archiving procedure. --Insider201283 (talk) 11:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done, but the discussion should take place in only one place, at Talk:Amway#Merger proposal. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 16:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will, thanks for monitoring articles on wikipedia. I'm sure you get a lot of guff for this kind of work since in today's world truth is considered relative. When I saw this page, compared to what I had heard about the company and information someone had given me, there wasn't a lot on here. So I did research of my own to add to the article, hopefully giving it some balance. Apparently in doing so I violated the neutral point of view policy.[3] stance some how. I did my best to make the article informative and there was a lot of stuff that came up on Google with that old TEAM thingy. When I looked at this page the first time it just looked like it was written by an 8th grader. There was information but it wasn't readable, and when I can't read something and I have the ability to edit it... hehe I go crazy.

If the edits were just too much, as you said I had added a lot of stuff in a few days, I would propose to keep a few sections. These are the ones that I feel are really important: Charitable Organizations, Becoming an IBO, Quixtar by the Numbers, edited version of Line of Association. It would be nice to see everything organized a bit better than the version before I edit it. Reason why I feel these are important is for the sake of good name. I don't like wal-mart for many reasons but there are many organizations they donate to that are listed on their Wikipedia article. If this is an informational article about Quixtar good and bad, compared to Microsoft, there isn't anything here. If it's true they have a couple billion in sales a year, why isn't there more information?

Thanks! Have a great day!