Do we really need every single person who appears on the show? I can understand mentioning of critical characters in the show, like Nadia and Liam, in the character's biographies, but not a list for every one. They have a place for that, it's called IMDB. In fact, much of what's been added looks like it's just a morphing of the Guest Stars Page on IMDB. I think this is taking it a bit too far. Baryonyx 18:34, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

• Three days, no comment. OK. Off island characters like Christian Shephard, Charlie's brother Liam, Nadia... the obvious movers of critical plot points, I can see having a section for them listing actor and character. I cannot see having EVERY role though. I think everyone knows that when we say "Characters of Lost," we do not mean every speaking role in the show, however minor. That is not meant as a denigration of the work of all the actors in minor and very minor roles, but as Wikipedia is not a dictionary, Wikipedia is not a credits database. But, IMDB is, and that's where this information already was, and should remain. To that end, I am placing direct links to the Lost pages. Baryonyx 17:00, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

The show's website features the diary of one of the secondary characters (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary.html). It is updated as new episodes are shown. I don't think the name of the character has been revealed, but other information has. If some one could check this out I think it would be interesting to add to the page. --Cuchullain 22:45, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I like the concept of using pictures of the actors in their roles, but I'm not sure the current selections are truly viable. They're lifts of screen captures from Lost-TV.com. Assuming that Lost-TV is using these under a fair use, and therefore cannot probably claim a copyright to the captures, does that mean we can use their screen captures? When I have posted such pictures in the past (for several Babylon 5 characters), I always did the screen capturing on my own from my own DVDs. My picture of the Lost logo was a screen capture of my own as well. Anyone know the policies on fair using someone else's fair use images? All this is probably moot if the person posting them is also the person doing the work for Lost TS, of course, I assume. Baryonyx 00:46, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

I'd much rather make him a subsection of Walt. I also don't think we need to keep an "appears in" for him since he's been in virtually every episode. K1Bond007 01:39, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

• I've said elsewhere I consider Vincent an important character. He's listed in secondary characters now because he's listed that way on IMDB. I don't think Vincent should simply be folded in under Walt. I will note however that, though unusual occurrences always seem to be presaged by his appearances or disappearances, these never occur when Walt is present, so perhaps there's something important in their relationship, and they can be folded together.Baryonyx 02:11, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

Ok..but do we need to list every episode the dog is in? Doesn't exactly seem like information that is "need to know". K1Bond007 04:55, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

• No, that was before I realized what you pointed out: he's been in better than 50% of the episodes. I'm removing them now. Vincent may eventually merit an upgrade to a Primary anyway.Baryonyx 06:03, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

First - I moved Scott to the Deceased list since he's dead. Theres no room to expand his bio. If should after his death his "story" necessitate a bio (like perhaps he's not dead and it was Steve) then we can add him back to the Secondary chracters.

Second - Was Steve really in "Homecoming"? I don't recall this. Just his name referenced. K1Bond007 01:39, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

• He was, kinda sorta. The actor who played Steve was in the ground, and the actor who played Scott was standing behind Hurley, from what I was reading on The Fuselage today. I might have misread, though.Baryonyx 02:12, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

• • I notice that Boone is both in "Primary characters" and in "Deceased", so I put an entry for Scott into "Secondary characters". They can be in both, right? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:39, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

It's Jack Shephard not Shepard. Please correct.

• IMDB and the vast majority of sites list his name as Jack Shepard [1] [2]. His name can be seen in flashbacks in White Rabbit and AtBCHDI. Carrp | Talk 22:10, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I did some more research. It is certainly Jack Shephard -- with a ph.

• All of the scripts say Shephard. Go to [3], pick any episode and scroll down to the list of staring actors. Try the pilot episode for starters [4]
• In the scripts for both White Rabbit (see: [5]) and AtBCHDI (see: [6]), under Guest Stars John Terry is listed as Dr. Christian Shephard.
• While IMDB gets the spelling wrong for Jack, it gets it right for his dad crediting John Terry as Dr. Christian Shephard
• In all TV Guide listings and episode listings John Terry is listed as Dr. Christian Shephard.
• Lastly, the name on the coat is clearly Shephard when you zoom right in, please see it in this image [7]
  • Oddly, the people at the thefuselage.com have a typo in Jack's surname in Matt Fox's topic page.

I rest my case, it's Shephard. (posed by Mitluf)

That image of the medical coat settles this issue. It's Shephard, no doubt. Good job with the research. Carrp | Talk 15:24, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm a little confused by what this list considers to be a person's "flashback episode". For example, The Boone/Shannon flashback episode provides insight into Shannon's past life, but it really is Boone's flashback episode; however it is listed as both shannon and boone's. Similarly, "The House of the Rising Sun" is primarily a Sun ep, but is listed as a flashback ep for Jin. However, "...In Translation" is only listed as a flashback ep for Jin, though it has plenty of information on Sun and her father. I added another category for "brief appearances" in a flashback episode (like Hurley on the TV in Jin's episode and Sawyer in the police station in Jack's episode), as these may be important later. Can we standardize on whether we're allowing "flashback episodes" to be linked primarily to more than one character, as that is not really the format of the show? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:39, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

While I've edited and slightly expanded Kate's background, I'm concerned that these sections might become too much unnecessary story re-tell, rather than simply describing the characters. As entire Web sites are devoted to doing that sort of thing, it seems beyond the scope of Wikipedia to describe every nuance of the plot. Would an editor please take a look and perhaps slim down the longer character sections (such as Kate's) to the bare necessities? --LeFlyman 16:51, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've removed some wiki links to common words-- Wikipedia shouldn't be a dictionary (that's what the Wikitionary is) and thus links should be reserved for appropriate and uncommon terms, within the context of the article.

See also: Wikipedia:Make_only_links_relevant_to_the_context --LeFlyman 16:51, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)