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::{{re|Licks-rocks}} - we would require a reliable source connecting Kiwi Farms to the alleged human rights violation action. I believe the cited source does not even mention Kiwi Farms. '''[[User:Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">starship</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">.paint</span>]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|exalt]])''' 11:45, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
::{{re|Licks-rocks}} - we would require a reliable source connecting Kiwi Farms to the alleged human rights violation action. I believe the cited source does not even mention Kiwi Farms. '''[[User:Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">starship</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">.paint</span>]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|exalt]])''' 11:45, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Oh yeah, that's a good point. --[[User:Licks-rocks|Licks-rocks]] ([[User talk:Licks-rocks#top|talk]]) 16:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC) |
:::Oh yeah, that's a good point. --[[User:Licks-rocks|Licks-rocks]] ([[User talk:Licks-rocks#top|talk]]) 16:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC) |
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What is the point of having Moon’s face on the article?
I don't know why having Moon's face plastered on the page makes sense, as the photo was uploaded by himself and to me this clearly violates WP:NAU. TheXuitts (talk) 21:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea why he chose to upload it, or why he chose to upload such a bad picture. Quite possibly his intention was self-promotion but I don't think that automatically means that it violates WP:NAU for us to choose to use it so long as the use is valid for other reasons. It is not for him to make the article about himself but it is for us, collectively, to decide the extent to which the article is about him and, yes, to some extent it is. He is the guy behind this website and we cover that fact in the article. There is no harm in showing the world his face in illustration of that fact. The image is not "plastered" on the page. It is no larger than normal (i.e. the default thumbnail size) and it isn't right at the top, as it would be if the article were a biography. It is a good picture in the sense that it shows readers what he looks like (which might be helpful if they ever need to avoid him in the street) but it isn't a good picture in any aesthetic sense. I've seen better looking police mugshots. It doesn't enhance his prestige. Irrespective of his intentions, it doesn't actually serve to promote him in any way. DanielRigal (talk) 22:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- “Ever avoid him in the street” that made me smirk Dronebogus (talk) 20:40, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- I think the image is well-placed and non-promotional. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 22:25, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedians frequently ask subjects of articles to upload photos that are Freely licenced, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lizthegrey&diff=prev&oldid=1111454349 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Keffals&diff=prev&oldid=1119451124 for instance. It's an editorial decision as to how said images are used afterwards, but making them available is not a COI or self-promotion. lizthegrey (talk) 22:48, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Edit request: Harassment
Minor update, I'm not extended confirmed so I can't do it myself.
In the Harassment section, there's this sentence:
The incidents are being investigated as criminal harassment, and Sorrenti stated she intended to pursue legal action.
She has since filed a human rights complaint against the London Police Service [1] so I propose the sentence be updated to:
The incidents are being investigated as criminal harassment, and Sorrenti stated she has filed a Human Rights Complaint against the police for their actions during and before the swatting.[1]
Egefeyzi (talk) 00:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Done with some copyedits. @Egefeyzi: In the future I'd recommend using {{edit extended-protected}} for similar requests. I saw this one because I'm watching this page, but other edit requests that you submit may not receive a prompt response to talk page watchers. The the template adds the talk page that it's on to Category:Wikipedia extended-protected redirects so that the request can be found and processed more easily. — SamX [talk · contribs] 02:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)- There also an article about the aftermath, with the police saying the only deadnaming done was the label on her property bag[1], also from CTV News. I'm adding this after your edit. JungleEntity (talk) 03:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, I have removed the content. This is an issue that Sorrenti has against the police. This is not about Kiwi Farms. It would be appropriate on the London police page and Sorrenti’s page but not here. starship.paint (exalt) 23:51, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, I think it's not necessarily a bad change? To me, it reads as a logical continuation of the story. If the police's reaction to the swatting attempt is mentioned, it makes sense to me that the outcome resulting from that reaction is also discussed. --Licks-rocks (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think all of Sorrenti’s drama with the police are out of scope for this article. While Kiwi Farms may have helped instigate this, they aren’t responsible for the accusations Sorrenti has put on the police. JungleEntity (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Licks-rocks: - we would require a reliable source connecting Kiwi Farms to the alleged human rights violation action. I believe the cited source does not even mention Kiwi Farms. starship.paint (exalt) 11:45, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, that's a good point. --Licks-rocks (talk) 16:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Reflist - Harassment
References
- ^ Ismail, Reta (14 December 2022). "London police cleared of wrongdoing in 'swatting' case". ctv news. CTV News. Retrieved 14 July 2023.
"These actions have tied Kiwi Farms to the suicides of three people targeted by members of the forum."
What source do we have to corroborate this claim? It just seems like random assorted news articles that all got their claims from dubious sources. Toadguy64 (talk) 15:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
