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After the recent discussion about the potential deletion of this category, the need for the development of criteria for inclusion within this category seems to be needed. Current Wikipedia definition for American. Expanding from there as basic criterion should be acceptable:

• The subject of the article's ownership of slaves is mentioned within the article with citations.
• The subject of the article must meet with Wikipedia's guidelines for notability.

From there, we could go with a broad approach, a narrow approach, or somewhere in between. The number of slaves the subject owned is not really a workable criterion imo, but could be if a consensus is reached.

• The subjet's ownership in article is more than just the fact that they owned slaves and a mention of the number of slaves they owned.

The problem that could develop with that is how slavery has been poorly documented beyond those basic facts, and how resources beyond a few post-modernist history works ignore prominent individuals' status as slave owners.

CaptainStegge (talk) 21:09, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As this category gets more populated, it appears there will soon be a need for subcategorization. Most if seems pretty straightforward. Follow the established pattern with US geographic state names. One problem that I am having trouble finding a precedent for it anachronistic geographic subdivisions.

• Category: Indian Territory Slave owners

Could work for post-removal slave owners within the Territory.

Pre-removal seems to be where a problem could form. Existing similar categories treat pre-removal in various manners. Some categories use the ceded territory as the base geographic subregion. Others use whatever nation as the base, but those are poorly subdivided and really only seem to exist for the Cherokee. Until those categories are developed, it would be easier to stick with the ceded land subcategorization scheme. CaptainStegge (talk) 21:09, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is not the notability of the person, but the particular notability of their slave-owning (like owning a notable slave) that should determine inclusion in this category. Otherwise the category becomes as wide and meaningless as 'Horse riders' or 'People with moustaches'. Valetude (talk) 04:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I thoroughly disagree. The financial benefits brought reaped by the people in the categor through from owning slaves help to contribute to their status as being notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. Owning another human being is not in any way comparable as far as notability as to being a rider of horses. Furthermore, owning slaves is a pretty rare occurrence in human history. Wikipedia has categories for Category:American people of English descent, Category:1809 births This is an encyclopedia. By your same logic, we should only include people in the 1809 category if them being born in 1809 is somehow notable in itself, or if their English heritage is somehow particularly .CaptainStegge (talk) 08:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)notable for the other category.[reply]

Yeah, he's just wrong. — LlywelynII 10:06, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to me no virtue in separating-out modern slavery from traditional slavery. The sharing of the lists with people-smugglers and drug-gang bosses is quite logical. Valetude (talk) 22:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]