Wikipedia talk:Category names
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ENGVAR
I don't think we have ever had anything here explicitly referencing WP:ENGVAR (see also Wikipedia talk:Category names/Archive 10#ENGVAR). If I were to add something, it would probably these couple of points:
The national varieties of English guidelines apply to each individual category, independent of the way they are connected to other categories. In particular:
- If a category has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation, then its name should use that nation's variety of English. This includes each individual subcategory by country and subcategory by nationality (for example, compare Category:Footballers in the United Kingdom with Category:Soccer players in the United States).
- Eponymous categories and topic categories should use the same variety of English as their respective main articles.
Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:19, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Zzyzx11 I was going to comment on this. Yes, I agree, but maybe double check with a RfC or VP link? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: The closest that I know so far is Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 153 § RFC: spelling of "organisation"/"organization" in descriptive category names, where there was a 2019 proposal to do the opposite and standardi(s/z)e all of those categories one way or the other. That RFC ended in no consensus because opponents specifically cited WP:ENGVAR and MOS:TIES to keep the individual sub-categories tied to their respective English-speaking nations. In the two years since I made my original post, the issue of changing this from a commonly de facto practice to a specific de jure guideline here has been very low priority for me, but you are still free to start any further RFC/VP discussions. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Zzyzx11 It is not a priority for me either, but I think you can add the text above to the policy, citing consensus here (which can be challenged if anyone cares to disagree, which I think is not likely...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: The closest that I know so far is Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 153 § RFC: spelling of "organisation"/"organization" in descriptive category names, where there was a 2019 proposal to do the opposite and standardi(s/z)e all of those categories one way or the other. That RFC ended in no consensus because opponents specifically cited WP:ENGVAR and MOS:TIES to keep the individual sub-categories tied to their respective English-speaking nations. In the two years since I made my original post, the issue of changing this from a commonly de facto practice to a specific de jure guideline here has been very low priority for me, but you are still free to start any further RFC/VP discussions. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Voter education
Request "Voter education" be added to list of available categories. This could be used to identify a function or activity as well as organizations or individuals that perform the function. Gumballhead1of2 (talk) 17:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Standardization
Shouldn't this cover the general practice that we like standardization in category names? Or is it covered somewhere else? @Marcocapelle Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: it is adressed in speedy rename criteria but it would not harm to add it here too. Also adding that we do not always standardize. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle Since you are much more knowledgeable about this then I am - could you add this here? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose we should first create a draft text and then ask more editors to have a look at it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle Sounds good, please ping me and I'll be happy to comment. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose we should first create a draft text and then ask more editors to have a look at it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle Since you are much more knowledgeable about this then I am - could you add this here? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus @Marcocapelle Did this ever go anywhere? I just came here to enquire about the same thing and saw this discussion and the one above on ENGVAR. Additionally, I don't think we have any guidance or general consensus (that I know of) about whether a category name should match the spelling of an article name in a case where there are no ties to a particular variety of English. For example, the article Judgement of Paris and its eponymous category Category:Judgment of Paris use different spellings, both of which are correct, but should the category match the article? When the category was created second, should it have been named the same as the article? Should we have a guideline about that? Mclay1 (talk) 15:54, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1: I am afraid this did not go anywhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- This guideline page seems generally underdeveloped. There are applicable guidelines and policies on other pages that should be reiterated here so the information is in one place. I'm going to add some established guidelines and then I'll draft some new information. Mclay1 (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1 WP:BEBOLD, and ping us when you'd like to get feedback! See also in page history who were major contributors and ping them there, please. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:36, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- This guideline page seems generally underdeveloped. There are applicable guidelines and policies on other pages that should be reiterated here so the information is in one place. I'm going to add some established guidelines and then I'll draft some new information. Mclay1 (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1: I am afraid this did not go anywhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)