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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryo Nakamura (footballer, born 1989) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Light years away from meeting WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 15:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:SPORTCRIT / WP:FOOTYN) criteria. Material not available for WP:V. QEnigma talk 15:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 16:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: No significant coverage what so ever. CNC (talk) 17:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP, but merge with corrections — this article seems like a duplication of the already-existing Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990) and hence a merge into the existing article may be more appropriate, once the errors have been corrected. It seems like the author of the article has made a spelling error, instead of “Reo” (the correct first name) they have put “Ryo” as the name of the subject and (for some reason) changed their DoB from 1990 to 1989.

The article's own source shows the name of the subject as “Reo”, not “Ryo” (as the author has put) and the correct DoB of the subject as 1990, not 1989 (as the author has put). The reason the others (CC: @GiantSnowman, @CommunityNotesContributor, @QEnigma) could not verify/find sources was because the author wrote the incorrect information on the Wikipedia article. The career statistics section, especially, I feel could be merged into the already existing article.

~~~~ Nyxion³⁰³💬 Talk 19:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted - but where is the significant coverage of this person? GiantSnowman 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Reo Nakamura (correct name), I was able to find some through this Google search and this one — 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 just to name a few.

At the moment, it appears the player plays for Ezra F.C., in the Pepsi Lao League 1.

~~~~ Nyxion³⁰³💬 Talk 19:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, your sources consist of match reports, database profiles and primary sources. Nothing come close to significant and independent coverage of the player. Geschichte (talk) 22:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In your opinion, would you say the player qualifies as being notable under WP:FOOTYN? Nyxion³⁰³💬 Talk 11:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FOOTYN is an essay, not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline, and has no relevance in AfD's. The subject must pass WP:GNG with multiple significant sources from publications independent of the subject. Alvaldi (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In any event, "The player section of this notability guidance has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports)". GiantSnowman 21:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Geschichte: Of the seven sources, only the fifth one signals significant coverage on Nakamura as it tells about his personal life. However, one SIGCOV is not enough; the whole GNG needs multiple instead. Transfermarkt is obviously unnecessary to be added to Wikipedia articles as it is claimed unreliable. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - as this person and Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990) are the same, we may need to consider sending Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990) to AfD if this AfD concludes as 'delete'. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Have done this already: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990). CNC (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there are still any valid arguments to Keep or Merge with another article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look likely as Reo Nakamura is currently at a 5-0 delete Geschichte (talk) 22:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep 5-1 surely? With @Nyxion303‘s keep vote, and 5-2 now… not that this is meant to be a vote I thought 😊 Anyway, as you pointed out @Geschichte, the fifth of Nyxion’s sources was SIGCOV, and I have another couple to add. this[1] and this[2]. For me the three taken together seem like enough. Absurdum4242 (talk) 14:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTAVOTE. GiantSnowman 21:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, that was rather my point. Absurdum4242 (talk) 06:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Absurdum4242 and Nyxion303. I once again request that those nominating and voting delete on Japanese-language articles show evidence of a WP:BEFORE search that includes sources in Japanese and competence to evaluate them before doing so as that clearly indicates that there is significant coverage.

DCsansei (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you reference this significant coverage you talk of please? CNC (talk) 15:05, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: the duplicate article Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990) was recently deleted at AfD. CNC (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: All the recent !votes are keep, but we've got an almost unanimous delete out of the other AfD. Can we get a source table or something?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 04:00, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Article does not meet WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:45, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - the coverage does not show a passing of GNG. AFC is two trivial mentions in a match report on a football federation website. Transfermarkt is a database source and an unreliable one at that. Football Tribe is another trivial mention. BeSoccer is another database. Indosport has some coverage but it references Transfermarkt and doesn't go anywhere beyond confirming his position, age, place of birth and previous club. That is all information that was just pulled from Soccerway and the unreliable Transfermarkt. Lao FF is blatantly not significant coverage. IDN Times is half-decent but doesn't go much beyond confirming his position, previous clubs and saying that he scored 2 goals against Tuloy. Soccer King trivially mentions him as a Japanese player in Myanmar. I've searched in Japanese but he has spent most of his career outside of Japan so I can't really find anything. I can find coverage like Ultra Soccer but this is clearly a different Ryo Nakamura as his age and place of birth doesn't match. This should be moved to Ryo Nakamura if kept. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:30, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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