The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Pretty much per Sirfurboy, who has summed up the discussion well. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reiner Frieske (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable German handball player. I was unable to find any in-depth sources about him. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Sportspeople. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: silver medallist from the 1970 World Men's Handball Championship, according to de:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP: Notable for the following reasons: (see German Wikipedia for a slightly more detailed entry)

1. East German Handball Champion: He was a goalkeeper for the team that won the "DDR-Meister: (East German Championship) in 1964.
2. International Handball Player: Frieske played for the East German national handball team.
3. World Championship Appearances: He represented East Germany in the World Handball Championships in 1964, 1967, and 1970, with the team finishing 2nd place in 1970.
4. Olympian: He competed as part of the East German handball team at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich. He played in 6 out of 6 games during the tournament. The team played in the bronze medal match, but was edged out by Romania (19-16), finishing in 4th place.

References that I found clicking Google News above were in German. — ERcheck (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Per ERcheck and sources which I found [1] and [2]. Note: Some sources wrote Rainer instead of Reiner. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 10:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Handball and Olympics. Let'srun (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:29, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not encyclopedic and not really relevant to the English wiki. The German version of article looks pretty short too with only 3 sources. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:59, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – PDF file looks decent, but does the second newspaper even mention him? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes in the bottom left corner with the title "Geachtet als Sportsmann und Kamerad". 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 14:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  It's just an interview without independent analysis, so I'd lean towards Delete. Multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I found more sources similar to the other pdf, centre left, bottom centre. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – Per sources presented in this AfD and WP:AGF. Svartner (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Svartner: Can you clarify how WP:AGF applies here? Assuming good faith is a behavioural guideline. It doesn't apply to considerations of passing notability criteria. Stifle (talk) 08:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - coming at this late. Can we get another relist to examine the above sources more closely? What is the publication Lommatzscher Anzeiger? Published in 2020, that could be a good one, but is it independent and reliable? I'm less impressed by contemporary news reports, which are primary inasmuch as they report specific events, and not independent if interviews. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:55, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Good work to those who identified sufficient WP:SIGCOV in this discussion for a bare pass of WP:NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - I am not going to enter a !vote because I don't think we are at GNG here, but I would prefer a no consensus close to deletion. The problem with the PDFs is what they are. Lommatszcher Nachtrigen is the independent gazette of the Lommatszcher Plege region of Saxony, and Lommatszcher Anzeige is likewise a regional publication. But that is not to say that local coverage is nothing. All the same, reading these, when they talk about "our team" and such like, there are questions as to whether this is properly independent coverage demonstrating notability. The other sources are either not SIGCOV or, as in the interview, lack independence (and also thus primary, per policy). And, to be honest, if we give this article a keep outcome, I'll bet that nothing happens to it, because it is not at all clear what we can write from these sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:51, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Upon reviewing the sources cited, I think they are either connected/non-independent, primary, or not significant coverage of Mr. Frieske. They don't give us anything to work from. Notability not met. Stifle (talk) 08:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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