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Needs some re-evaluation
I'm not entirely familiar with this series, but on trying to read it, I'm not sure what makes Deadpool as part of the series for example (I have no idea if it is or not, but nothing in the article tells me why it is considered part of it.) It's been a long time since this article passed as a GA here when there was only three X-Men films (simpler times!) but since then, a copious amount of information has been added that does not really clarify specific details about terms that have been tagged for a few months. For example, if a film takes place in the same universe as another, is it still in a series? Other content seems to have sources that fail some standards (like the soundtrack section). I've tagged some material, and could probably find sources for basic things like cast, etc. but the more in-universe stuff is a bit out of my ballpark as I haven't seen any of these films since the third one. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Deadpool is a spin-off of X-Men movies. 94.254.159.31 (talk) 14:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- okay, but you need a source to back this up and even if that is the case is it an "X-Men" film and if so, how come? Wings and Frasier are spin-offs of Cheers, but we don't usually discuss them as being part of Cheers. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
Deadpool & Wolverine is conclusion of the series?
The article says that Deadpool & Wolverine acted as the retroactive conclusion of the series. But what's the source of this claim? Because Kevin Feige recently stated that Marvel wants to use Deadpool and Wolverine as much as possible.
"The plans with Deadpool and Wolverine will always be the same: we're always wondering where we can fit them in, and how fast,"
https://www.omelete.com.br/marvel-cinema/kevin-feige-entrevista-d23-wolverine
And according to Daniel Richtman. Marvel wants a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine after Secret Wars. So unless there is a source claiming that the film is a conclusion to the series, I don't think the article should be making that claim. 71.188.103.15 (talk) 04:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how reliable Omelete's interpretation of this is, because that film is officially an MCU film and not part of the Fox X-Men film series, and definitely not its conclusion. Also, Richtman is not a reliable source, and there have been no official movement on a sequel to that film. I and others have attempted to remove instances of this film being labeled as part of this series but others persistently readd it without evidence. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's a direct quote from Kevin Feige. Not an interpretation by Omelete. So yeah, apparently Marvel wants to use the characters more. That shouldn't be surprising since Patrick Stewart teased at more Fox X-Men last year, The Marvels mid-credit scene teased at more Fox X-Men, and Deadpool & Wolverine made over a billion dollars at the Box Office. I'm not saying that Richtman's word is confirmation, but he has been right about a lot things in the past and what he says has a lot of support behind it. I just don't think we should be calling this a conclusion as the evidence so far suggests the contrary.
- Also, X-Men '97 is considered to be a continuation of Fox's animated X-Men series; it is just under Marvel Studios now. So why shouldn't Deadpool & Wolverine be considered to be a continuation of Fox's live-action X-Men series under Marvel Studios? I seriously don't see the difference. 71.188.103.15 (talk) 18:02, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Marvel Studios has been incorporating characters from Fox's X-Men films into the MCU, yes, but we cannot use that to say Deadpool & Wolverine concludes Fox's X-Men film series as that would be WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:OR. Feige has not said that. Richtman's comments are irrelevant and should be taken as truth here. Of course Marvel wants to use more of these characters again, but that does not confirm anything is happening or what you are saying it does here. Deadpool & Wolverine is an MCU film that carries over parts of the Fox films, but it is not confirmed to conclude that film series. You would need a much better source to say that. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, X-Men '97 is considered to be a continuation of Fox's animated X-Men series; it is just under Marvel Studios now. So why shouldn't Deadpool & Wolverine be considered to be a continuation of Fox's live-action X-Men series under Marvel Studios? I seriously don't see the difference. 71.188.103.15 (talk) 18:02, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I saw your edit. I'm not sure how you can say that Reynolds's wording is "ambiguous". He literally says he is writing an ensemble related to Deadpool. I went back and watched it again, it isn't really ambiguous. 71.188.103.15 (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean that that is something that will actually eventuate or is in any actual development. Until we have more clarity on what this potential project is, it should not be given heavy weight in the lead as part of this franchise. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Deadpool & Wolverine is a movie from both series and should be listed here and not just separated into Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is the 14th and possibly final film in this series. ~2025-33937-02 (talk) 22:30, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- You are sabotaging yourself by deliberately not writing that it is part of this series, but we will stand our ground and will not give up until it is written that it is the 14th film in this series here. ~2025-33937-02 (talk) 22:42, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Officially, it is an MCU film and not part of the 20th Century Fox X-Men film series. Any notion that Deadpool & Wolverine is the conclusion of Fox's X-Men film series is WP:Original research and should not be included in the article. That would be like saying Avengers: Doomsday will conclude the X-Men film series just because it has some cast reprisals, or that No Way Home concluded the Sam Raimi Spider-Man film series just because Tobey Maguire returned. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 03:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- You are sabotaging yourself by deliberately not writing that it is part of this series, but we will stand our ground and will not give up until it is written that it is the 14th film in this series here. ~2025-33937-02 (talk) 22:42, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Deadpool & Wolverine is a movie from both series and should be listed here and not just separated into Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is the 14th and possibly final film in this series. ~2025-33937-02 (talk) 22:30, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean that that is something that will actually eventuate or is in any actual development. Until we have more clarity on what this potential project is, it should not be given heavy weight in the lead as part of this franchise. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I saw your edit. I'm not sure how you can say that Reynolds's wording is "ambiguous". He literally says he is writing an ensemble related to Deadpool. I went back and watched it again, it isn't really ambiguous. 71.188.103.15 (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- X-Men '97 isn't part of this film series and isn't connected to the MCU.[1][2] Just because they’re produced by the same studios doesn’t mean they’re related :)
Plus, characters from this franchise are set to appear in Doomsday in 2026, which is supposed to reboot the franchise. Also, this franchise (and the Deadpool films) isn’t technically part of the official MCU, it’s considered part of something called Marvel Legacy Films, which, if I’m not wrong, is treated as an alternative timeline within the MCU, where characters can still cross over, like in WandaVision.
- ^ Glazebrook, Lewis (2024-06-01). "I'm Worried About The MCU's X-Men Movie After Watching X-Men '97". ScreenRant. Retrieved 2025-11-28.
- ^ Young, Kai (2024-04-23). "X-Men '97's Disney+ Change Supports Major MCU Theory". ScreenRant. Retrieved 2025-11-28.
Lililolol (talk) 02:31, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- i remove this film from Fox X-Men film series and was add again how ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_(film_series)#Deadpool_&_Wolverine_(2024) is a marvel cinematic universe film ~2026-13373-93 (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- it is now corrected, thank you for that ~2026-13373-93 (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
Timeline question
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please look at this timeline i think it makes sense and is correct with deadpool 2 they create a third timeline there deadpool and wolverine is a part of this 3 timeline end up but it is not included here https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelTheories/comments/18tfum5/xmen_timelines_actually_solved/ They explained very well why it is like this and made sense. The timeline should be updated in this style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 18:03, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- please see and here is make sense with 3 timelines https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1eidi6s/my_interperetation_of_how_the_xmen_timeline_works/ ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 20:53, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm not very familiar with the series, but from a quick search, it looks like the franchise should have ended with Dark Phoenix.[1] Plus, the Deadpool & Wolverine sequel isn't actually confirmed yet. It's in development, but not in production, so it may not make it to the filming stage. From what’s been discussed above, the timeline in the article is a bit messy, and Reddit isn’t really a reliable source for Wikipedia. I’d suggest using the People article[2] as a reference instead. According to that article, Deadpool & Wolverine would be the third installment in the Deadpool series, so I’m not sure why it isn’t listed under the Deadpool films in the film section? Plus, the section about the MCU in this article is a bit messy and kinda unrelated. From what I understand, this series is considered part of the Marvel Legacy films and is supposed to be rebooted after Doomsday in 2026. As for the Deadpool & Wolverine portion, I’m not sure it belongs here, some of that information seems unrelated and would be better placed in the film article. I think the whole article feels a bit messy, so I suggest that an interested editor take a closer look at it. Lililolol (talk) 02:30, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not follow what some random Reddit account says. Deadpool & Wolverine is not really part of Fox's film series; rather, it serves as a final send-off for many of that franchise's characters, as will Avengers: Doomsday. There is no Deadpool & Wolverine sequel in any stage of development at Marvel Studios. Reynolds is just writing his own idea for an ensemble film featuring Deadpool and some X-Men characters independently from Marvel. Deadpool & Wolverine is primarily set in the MCU's Void and the universe of the preceding Deadpool films, but it is officially an MCU film, not part of the Fox-produced X-Men film series and is not really necessary to understand the timeline of this film series. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 03:26, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes is right Deadpool & Wolverine is set in Marvel Cinematic Universe but is still sequel to Deadpool 2 and and tracks events from Logan and it's very confusing here because Logan is set in future time of 2029 year Deadpool & Wolverine is a 2024 year but still follows events from Logan and the only explanation if they are really three timelines with Deadpool 2 erased Logan and The Mutans films because Cable travel from far future and this maybe is after Logan future but more far but this seems to be a theory unproven ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 13:22, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- i see this order https://people.com/how-to-watch-x-men-movies-in-order-8661518 but is not right is 2 timelines with X-Men: Days of Future Past erased X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 13:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- years after Logan, Cable travels back to the events of Deadpool 2 to kill Russell
- Cable timetravelling now deletes The New mutants and Logan from happening now. They still happened, just not in this THIRD TIMELINE! and next Deadpool and wolverine ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 13:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- this order is right
- 1. X-Men: First Class
- 2. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
- 3. X-Men
- 4. X2
- 5. X-Men: The Last Stand
- 6. The Wolverine
- 7. X-Men: Days of Future Past
- 8. X-Men: Apocalypse
- 9. Dark Phoenix
- 10. Deadpool
- 11. The New Mutants
- 12. Logan
- 13. Deadpool 2
- 14. Deadpool & Wolverine ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 14:01, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- i see this order https://people.com/how-to-watch-x-men-movies-in-order-8661518 but is not right is 2 timelines with X-Men: Days of Future Past erased X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 13:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Reynolds is reportedly in talks to create a fourth film,[3] which means the project is still in the development stage and hasn’t been officially greenlit for production. So, describing it as "in development" is kinda accurate, but it's true that it isn't confirmed as a sequel. I also found these sources to support my points, and I can incorporate them into this article later on!... So, according to these sources, Deadpool & Wolverine is the third installment,[4][5][6] and is "direct follow-up" to Deadpool 1 and 2.[7] Deadpool 1 and 2 take place in the same universe as the other X-Men films but are not "direct spinoffs".[8] At the same time, the third film, Deadpool & Wolverine, is a crossover within the Marvel Multiverse that connects the MCU and the X-Men universe, and it is also part of Phase 5.[9][6][10][11] <– archived Vulture for the paywall :) ++ The entire X-Men series is set to be rebooted after Avengers: Doomsday (according to a source cited in the MCU section of this article), which means the films might join Deadpool as part of the official MCU, or not. Or maybe, Deadpool could be removed from the timeline after that. + "Not really necessary to understand the timeline of this film series" is kinda rude. I want to understand the timeline better, but I didn’t explain myself clearly before. The current table feels a bit "messy", and reorganizing it might be controversial edit. That's why I'm sharing my thoughts here. If an active editor wants to take it up, great; if not, I can do the editing later if nobody objects. To explain more, I'm unsure about the MCU section. Some information, like "X and Y return to play their roles" seems unnecessary here and belongs in the Deadpool & Wolverine article. I also think it might be better to move all MCU section to a new section called "Development" placed right before the Film section. There, it could briefly explain how the films came about, Disney buying Fox, how Deadpool & Wolverine is part of crossovers, and how the franchise is set to reboot after Avengers: Doomsday. Lililolol (talk) 20:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am not being rude. I am just being blunt; not here to debate semantics, though. Readers looking for this article are not necessarily looking for a single MCU film versus all of the Fox films. Yes, Deadpool & Wolverine branches off from the main X-Men timeline after Logan's death but takes an alternate Logan who obviously isn't dead. This is well articulated in the MCU articles. To reiterate, I am against stating that Deadpool & Wolverine is part of this Fox X-Men film series, but it is factually accurate to state it is a sequel to Deadpool 1 and 2. I think it can b included in the timeline as an additional point in parentheses, similar to associated projects being included for reference at the timeline graphic as seen at Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six § Timeline, but it should not be stated as being an entry in the Fox X-Men series or its conclusion, which is not supported by sources; rather, it serves as a send-off to this franchise, per what the sources have actually referred to it as. Reynolds's other film idea does not really hold any merit unless it eventuates; as far as we know, it is just his idea and is not in any actual development. I agree that the current timeline graphic is disjointed, and the whole section is lacking material and adequate citations. It all needs a good overhaul and a new format. The graphic itself is out of date and may not be feasible to retain moving forward, so an on-wiki table infographic may be more desirable for the legibility of our readers.— Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 01:48, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree something like what we have for the MCU timelines works. However I still think we need to clarify the two separate timelines since post-DOFP they are very clearly different and don’t all fit into one simplified timeline. But the umbrella should be referred to as Earth-10005 as the MCU gives the designation to that. We’ll cross that bridge when we get there designing it but this is just my thoughts on how to proceed. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, the MCU Earth designation definitely makes it more complicated than ideal, but I think there's a way to navigate around this via hatnotes, as needed. If such an infographic repeats entries and settings to ensure accuracy, I think that would be acceptable. I can start looking into what a potential new graphic would look like. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 02:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- And after Deadpool 2 the lines branch time travel of cable coming from more far future from timeline 2 and erased Logan and The New Mutants you should watch the movies in that order and you'll see I'm right
- 1. X-Men: First Class
- 2. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
- 3. X-Men
- 4. X2
- 5. X-Men: The Last Stand
- 6. The Wolverine
- 7. X-Men: Days of Future Past make timeline 2 and is erased X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine
- 8. X-Men: Apocalypse
- 9. Dark Phoenix
- 10. Deadpool
- 11. The New Mutants
- 12. Logan
- 13. Deadpool 2 make timeline 3 and is erased Logan and The New Mutans
- 14. Deadpool & Wolverine
- Also, The New Mutans do not take place in the future is present time. The graph needs to be updated ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 08:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- also The New Mutans was originally supposed to come out in 2018 but they delayed it and it's coming out in 2020 ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 08:21, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- but I think this third timeline thing is misleading and not well thought out ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- is are 3 timelines please see here https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelTheories/comments/1qdtn59/xmen_timelines_actually_solved_again/ ~2025-39144-98 (talk) 08:58, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- but I think this third timeline thing is misleading and not well thought out ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- also The New Mutans was originally supposed to come out in 2018 but they delayed it and it's coming out in 2020 ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 08:21, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, the MCU Earth designation definitely makes it more complicated than ideal, but I think there's a way to navigate around this via hatnotes, as needed. If such an infographic repeats entries and settings to ensure accuracy, I think that would be acceptable. I can start looking into what a potential new graphic would look like. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 02:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree something like what we have for the MCU timelines works. However I still think we need to clarify the two separate timelines since post-DOFP they are very clearly different and don’t all fit into one simplified timeline. But the umbrella should be referred to as Earth-10005 as the MCU gives the designation to that. We’ll cross that bridge when we get there designing it but this is just my thoughts on how to proceed. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am not being rude. I am just being blunt; not here to debate semantics, though. Readers looking for this article are not necessarily looking for a single MCU film versus all of the Fox films. Yes, Deadpool & Wolverine branches off from the main X-Men timeline after Logan's death but takes an alternate Logan who obviously isn't dead. This is well articulated in the MCU articles. To reiterate, I am against stating that Deadpool & Wolverine is part of this Fox X-Men film series, but it is factually accurate to state it is a sequel to Deadpool 1 and 2. I think it can b included in the timeline as an additional point in parentheses, similar to associated projects being included for reference at the timeline graphic as seen at Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six § Timeline, but it should not be stated as being an entry in the Fox X-Men series or its conclusion, which is not supported by sources; rather, it serves as a send-off to this franchise, per what the sources have actually referred to it as. Reynolds's other film idea does not really hold any merit unless it eventuates; as far as we know, it is just his idea and is not in any actual development. I agree that the current timeline graphic is disjointed, and the whole section is lacking material and adequate citations. It all needs a good overhaul and a new format. The graphic itself is out of date and may not be feasible to retain moving forward, so an on-wiki table infographic may be more desirable for the legibility of our readers.— Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 01:48, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes is right Deadpool & Wolverine is set in Marvel Cinematic Universe but is still sequel to Deadpool 2 and and tracks events from Logan and it's very confusing here because Logan is set in future time of 2029 year Deadpool & Wolverine is a 2024 year but still follows events from Logan and the only explanation if they are really three timelines with Deadpool 2 erased Logan and The Mutans films because Cable travel from far future and this maybe is after Logan future but more far but this seems to be a theory unproven ~2025-34037-00 (talk) 13:22, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not follow what some random Reddit account says. Deadpool & Wolverine is not really part of Fox's film series; rather, it serves as a final send-off for many of that franchise's characters, as will Avengers: Doomsday. There is no Deadpool & Wolverine sequel in any stage of development at Marvel Studios. Reynolds is just writing his own idea for an ensemble film featuring Deadpool and some X-Men characters independently from Marvel. Deadpool & Wolverine is primarily set in the MCU's Void and the universe of the preceding Deadpool films, but it is officially an MCU film, not part of the Fox-produced X-Men film series and is not really necessary to understand the timeline of this film series. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 03:26, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
Pointless bickering, WP:SOCK/WP:BITE/WP:ATTACK accusations not relevant to discussion. Collapsing. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 17:45, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
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Article review
It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed the yellow "sources needed" banner at the top of the "Home media" section from August 2024. I agree with this banner, and found some other uncited statements. Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, I'm more than willing to revamp the article if you still want to pursue a GAR. DAP 💅 18:34, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
- @DAP389: I am sorry that I did not see this until now. Ideally, if you are interested in working on this the article doesn't need to go to GAR, and you can start making improvements to the article. Would you be willing to work on this? Z1720 (talk) 01:17, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yep I'm still up for the task. I've already started work in a draft space, which I intend to transfer here and begin reworking the article next week. DAP 💅 03:38, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- @DAP389: I am sorry that I did not see this until now. Ideally, if you are interested in working on this the article doesn't need to go to GAR, and you can start making improvements to the article. Would you be willing to work on this? Z1720 (talk) 01:17, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
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