Talk:Menachem Mendel Schneerson
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How many volumes were actually published? Two different numbers are in the article.
The introduction reads: "Schneerson's published teachings fill more than 400 volumes..."
Section "Scholarship and works" reads" "Schneerson's teachings have been published in more than two hundred volumes."
Maybe someone could have a look at the original sources? Or, at least, put both numbers in one place and admit that different sources report different numbers. 144.206.226.161 (talk) 17:02, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- The common used number is 200 and I believe that would work if we are only counting his original works about 20 years ago.
- Today the number of books of his teachings and on his teachings is easily over the 500 mark.
- The problem is it's not really clear to me yet what should be considered as his books and what not. Technically Sichot Kodesh can be considered the same thing as Torat Menachem, now obviously they are very different. One's Hebrew, one's English. One's more of a word to word whilst the other uses the liberty to write in a written fashion. So do we could the 71 (so far) of Torat Menachem or not? Now is this is from the more simple examples and I'd say we should count both. But what about the maamorim? Should we count both sets which have different writing styles? Or not?
- I think we have to change the way this is formatted so we can also include books written on the rebbe.
- I'm not exactly sure what I'm thinking yet.
- I'll to start adding volumes and sets that are missing so that we can make a more complete number and figure out how to make it more understandable.
- In short the 200 volumes is an old number as 10's of volumes are still being published every year Blowner (talk) 02:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
The Rebbe Said He Is Moshiach
The Rebbe said he is moshiach many times over, starting from the most famous quote that "the leader of the generation is the moshiach of the generation" and saying the he is "the seventh generation" which is the "last generation of exile and the first generation of redemption" etc.. We must fix up Wikipedia when it makes false claims that the rebbe never claimed to be moshiach (and it quotes stiensaltz's book as reference, what sort of authority is he?) and makes claims like that most of chabad dosn't belive in the rebbe being moshiach (heaven forbid!). everyone use Wikipedia for fact and truthful information and they will rely what it says here even more than there close friend who is a Rabbi. anyone willing to step on to the challenge of truth? MendelDeren (talk) 06:37, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- He never said that he is moshiach.
- Do not misuse sources. NossonG (talk) 20:50, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- He said the "leader of the generation is the moshiach of the generation". He also said that this generation is "the last generation of exile and the first generation of redemption" and that the leader of this generation will redeem us. He also says that the name of Moshaich is "Menachem" the same name he bears. He also said that "Moshaich is physically present at this table" during a Shabbat Fabrengun. He also said that Yud Alef Nissan is the birthday of Moshaich. There are countless of other quotes that I can give you.
- mainly, during the year of 1993 he vigorously encouraged the chant of "Yechi" that attributes him to being the Moshiach.
- I request of you "NossonG" to please avoid false statements and deny facts that have been verified and are recorded with audio, text, video and personal eye witness. MendelDeren (talk) 00:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- The sources currently cited very well could be contradicted by others, but any changes would require you to share the sources you're using so they can be judged as reliable or not. XeCyranium (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- At most, the Rebbe implied it. All of the above statements could plausibly be referring to someone else. The article summarizes what his followers and others had to say about the subject, and should be left at that. StonyBrook babble 11:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- He was in no way at all the leader of the Jewish people, except in th e fevered imagination of his very small number of his adherents. 2A04:4A43:84BF:F9CC:F094:65BE:201C:B251 (talk) 08:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- The sources currently cited very well could be contradicted by others, but any changes would require you to share the sources you're using so they can be judged as reliable or not. XeCyranium (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Removing Russian from the first sentence
It strikes me as very odd to refer to the Rebbe as Russian-American as we do in the first sentence of the lede. Per MOS:NATIONALITY, In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable.
I think if we look at the examples in the MOS, the Rebbe is most analagous to Isaac Asimov whom we describe as American, given where the Rebbe lived basically his entire notable career. I think the particular location, political status and arrangements for the recognition of nationality in Ukraine in the latter period of his residence there further muddy the waters. Therefore, I think we should omit "Russian" in the first sentence of the lede. Samuelshraga (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just to specify, we refer to the Rebbe as "Russian-American", which generally is an ethnic description (like African-American or Italian-American). The MOS has a different style for listing two nationalities, which we could use the example of Arnold Schwarzenegger ("Austrian and American"), so in our case "Russian and American". But Russian-American is actually incorrect, even if we think Russian should be maintained. Samuelshraga (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Article issues and classification
- The article currently fails the B-class criteria #1. It is in the following categories and could be reassessed:
- Articles with unsourced statements from June 2019
- Articles lacking reliable references from July 2020. -- Otr500 (talk) 10:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
External links
Works available online
- Chabad.org – Literature
- Sichos B'Laha"k – The Rebbe's unedited talks (Hebrew)
- Sichos in English
- Igros Kodesh (Hebrew)
- Toras Menachem (Hebrew)
- Hayom Yom (Hebrew)
- The Rebbe's 10-point Mitzvah campaign
- Audio recordings of the Rebbe's addresses (Yiddish)
- The Rebbe's weekday Farbrengen's (video)
- The official archive of all the Rebbe's weekday talks (Yiddish)
- Who Was Rabbi Schneerson?/Lecture by Henry Abramson/June 2013
Works available on iTunes
Biography
- The Rebbe's life (in Hebrew)
- The Rebbe's life (English)
- Video Lecture on Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson of Chabad by Henry Abramson of Touro College South
- Early Years: The Formative Years of The Rebbe.
- Emulating the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s Character: part I / part II
Historical sites
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- Proclamation of Education and Sharing Day 2002 by President George W. Bush also honoring the 100th birthdate of Rabbi Schneerson
- Education and Sharing Day, U.S.A., 2007
- Numerous proclamations by President Reagan citing work of Rabbi Schneerson and promotion of the Seven Noahide Laws
- Congressional Gold Medal Recipient Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson Archived September 27, 2011, at the Wayback Machine
- Tributes to the Lubavitcher Rebbe by Menachem Begin, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Israel Meir Lau, John Lewis, Joseph Lieberman, Yitzhak Rabin, Aviezer Ravitzky, Jonathan Sacks, Lawrence Schiffman, Adin Steinsaltz, Margaret Thatcher, Elie Wiesel and Elliot Wolfson.
- Family Tree
- Commemorative remarks Archived January 25, 2006, at the Wayback Machine upon the occasion of the 10th Yahrzeit of the Lubavitcher Rebbe Rabbi Tzvi Hersh Weinreb of the Orthodox Union
- Timeline of Menachem Mendel Schneerson 1928–1938
- My Encounter with the Rebbe, an oral history project undertaken by Jewish Educational Media, JEM to record the history of Rabbi Schneerson -- Otr500 (talk) 10:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)