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No mention of the original 1984 7-inch single mix?
Is there any reason why the original 7-inch single mix of the song that was released in the United Kingdom by Epic Records in 1984 is not currently mentioned in this article? As far as I'm aware (and unless I'm mistaken), after the two original 1984 7-inch singles containing the original mix (Epic GA4949 and Epic QA4949) were deleted by Epic, future reissues of the song (starting in 1985) used an edited version of the 12-inch extended "pudding mix" from 1984 as the official single version, and the original 7-inch single mix of the song from 1984 by all accounts has never appeared on a Wham! or George Michael album, soundtrack album (like that for the 2019 film Last Christmas), or holiday compilation album. I would think that the original 7-inch single mix of the song would be significant enough to mention in the article. Is it because no reliable sources about the original 7-inch single mix can easily be found? Sliv812 (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also it's annoying every time an article or presenter mentions Wham they are classed as a duo WRONG they were a BAND bass drums second guitar & two backing singer remember Pepsi & Shirley ? . 2A02:C7C:DB0A:8C00:1D1E:DBC2:5099:C868 (talk) 12:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have a bit of an update to my post on this Talk page from one year ago. I recently found this information from 10 December 2017 in a message board thread at the Top40MusicOnCD website, and it appears to detail the different Wham! versions of the song in great detail (and some of the information came from Wikipedia at the time the message was posted):
(1) Original 1984 recording (7" mix) Time: 4:24 (with claps unique to the 1984 mixes, a different edit than other singles, and some unique vocal overdubs). This can be found on the flip side of the UK 1984 7" single "Everything She Wants". CD availability: Never released (according to Wikipedia).
(2) Original 1984 recording (long version, though missing a verse) Time: listed as 4:34 (according to Wikipedia - only 10 seconds longer than short version, but if it's missing a verse, it probably contains other sections not in the short version). Available on the Japanese 12" commercial single and the Spanish 12" promotional single. CD availability: Unknown, but probably non-existent.
(3) 1984 Pudding Mix Time: 6:47 (remixed version with partly re-recorded and additional vocals). Appears on the 1984 and 1985 issued 12" UK singles and the CDs The Final and If You Were There (Best of Wham).
(4) 1985 edit of 1984 Pudding Mix Time: 4:24. Appears on the 1985 UK 7" single, and can be edited from The Final CD by removing the first 27 seconds and fading early until the new version clocks in at 4:24. And apparently, this version is on a lot of "various artist" compilation CDs, as well as on George Michael's compilation Twenty Five.
(5) 2007 Remix Time: 5:13. Available on 7", 12", and CD (Tent PD45579)
Now I cannot vouch for how accurate any of this information is, and as such, I dare not add any of it to the article itself (especially since a message board doesn't exactly make for a reliable reference, never mind the likely possibility that some of the information came from a previous version of this very Wikipedia article). Sliv812 (talk) 10:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Pudding Mix Edit (i.e. the definitive version) was released in 1984, not 1985. I have checked recordings of both the BBC Radio 1 UK Top 40 and Top of the Pops from December 1984, and they both played this version. There's talk on Disocgs about how the other version was released on some early European pressings. Also from talking to people about this topic with other fans who own the 7", all say their version contains the Pudding Mix Edit. If the original version was on most/all UK pressings from 1984, then surely it would be more common, considering what a huge seller it was.
