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Anyone who made this page illiterate as he didn't gave proof that akbar won. I have proof that MAHARANA PRATAP WON. I challenge you to give proof that akbar won. 182.64.79.54 (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been answered in the section Talk:Battle of Haldighati#Wrong information above - Arjayay (talk) 14:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

it was victory of rajput because mughals ran away empty handed ,thats why Akbar cant annex mewar KUNWAR PUSHKAL SINGH (talk) 08:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.>>> Extorc.talk 08:17, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chandra Shekhar Sharma, an associate professor at Meera Girls College in Udaipur noted, “In the light of recent research and evidence, historians have come to the conclusion that Pratap’s army never retreated from the Battle of Haldighati. The war was won by Pratap.” 103.80.22.72 (talk) 10:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And your WP:Reliable sources for that claim are? - Arjayay (talk) 10:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 17 Feb 2024 When I visited this page the result described as rajput victory but now on 23 Feb 2024 it shows Mughal Victory. Mananshekhawat (talk) 05:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is because the current version is correct. >>> Extorc.talk 20:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please once again check the new rajasthan State board of school education books in which Maharana Pratap won the battle please correct it Anpppp (talk) 16:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@R2dra, my talk page is not the place where to discuss about the additions. Your recent addition adding "80,000 deaths" "20,000 deaths" on Mughal casualties fails verification. The book you cited, Rima Hooja's "Maharana Pratap, the inevitable warrior" cites about the casualties as the same as what we seen in the current version of the article. Moreover, the book is more likely praising the Pratap, as seen in the cover and it's title. Imperial^[AFCND] 09:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@R2dra, may I know the reason why you put that "20,000 deaths" on Mughal side whereas the author doesn't specify the side on the book? This is WP:OR, and I've added the attributes for each account now. Please stop POV pushing as you have done here and here. Please do not pull numbers from nowhere without sources and put it in the way you like. Seems like a lot of warnings have got already. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@R2dra, see the last paragraph of the article. Don't try to make it as a double sided victory, RS have mentioned this as Mughal victory. Imperial^[AFCND] 13:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historians like M N Mathur, Ram Nath, A N Bhattacharya, Rima Hooja completely believe that battle of Haldighati was indecisive. Even Rajasthan institute of historical research organisation's researches say the same R2dra (talk) 14:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Sitush here. @R2dra, the article and reports are showing that this is an attempt of glorifying Pratap. Read the last paragraph of the article. Imperial^[AFCND] 14:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rajasthan institute of historical research organisation is a government organisation they just show facts R2dra (talk) 14:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See this [1] [2] [3] [4][5] [6]. We are using reliable sources to cite wikipedia. Sentiments of others have no position here. So I suggest you to revert your edit considering it as a controversial move. Imperial^[AFCND] 14:47, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The rakt talai inscriptions, displayed in Haldighati tell that Mughal forces had to step back as they had lost many soldiers and they couldn't capture Maharana Pratap R2dra (talk) 16:06, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i didn't use any website source, all the sources I've used are books written by well known historians R2dra (talk) 16:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are using WP:RS to cite wikipedia articles. All of them, except the Rajasthani modern chronicles, states this as the Mughal victory. And I have posted some news articles related to that change. Just because a community protested, I don't believe the outcome of a battle, where it have been almost 500 years, should be changed to please them. If everyone does the same, then what is the point of something called "History"? I have initiated an RFC down there. Let's see what others got to say about this. Imperial^[AFCND] 16:14, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

if you wish I can add even more trusted book sources, if Akbar had won Haldighati then why did he sent shahabaz Khan multiple times to attack on Haldighati (1577-1580) after the battle of Haldighati 1576 R2dra (talk) 16:12, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change Result to "Indecisive"

Reason: Ram Vallabh Somani, in his book History of Mewar, from Earliest Times to 1751 A.D., p230-231 states "Both the Rajputs and the Mughals claimed to have emerged victorious in this battle." "... Afunta-Khab-ut Tawarikh categorically affirms that the Mughal army after this battle did not rejoice this “avowed victory.”" "They were badly stricken by a panic of sudden invasion by the Rajputs" "no officer was rewarded by the Emperor on the so called victory." "Mansingh and Asaf Khan were called back to the court and for a few days they were forbidden from appearance’?" "These accounts prove that the claim of the Mughals does not carry sufficient weight." "By analysing the facts we may say that no party succeeded in achieving ‘complete victory”" "Mansingh’s campaign failed in its primary object viz., subjugation of Mewar and killing or capturing of the Maharana." "Thus the result of this battle was perhaps “drawn Hashid Khan (talk) 14:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. This is not an uncontroversial edit to be made via the edit request template. PianoDan (talk) 21:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change Result from "Mughal victory" to "Indecisive"

Sources supporting that the battle was indecisive are as follows: ^[1][2][3][4] बादशाह (talk) 09:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. PianoDan (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The battle of Haldighati does not hold a constant consensus of a victor. Both the sides have significant sources to mention. India as a whole does not conclude the victory of Mughals over mewar.The Mughals mission was to make mewar surrender which they couldn't accomplish. But they still claimed victory for having some field. Mewari mission was not to surrender in front to Mughals which they did accomplish at the end.

Official ncerts in india tells the battle to be inconclusive. Mewar had an upper hand in the battle overall Mr$material07 (talk) 11:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• You would need to provide reliable sources to change this. Mr$material07 (t · c) buidhe 23:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was victory of Rajputs over mughals in battle of Haldighati, i can provide you links to books and many reliable sources. Also manuscript also shows Rajput's victory. Help us. HistorianOP (talk) 12:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: see above responses Cannolis (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many manuscript and several books claim Maharana Pratap emerged victorious from this battle . We can provide all link to the books and sources you want. They are depicting wrong history here . Provide right information. HistorianOP (talk) 12:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please link your sources and explain how they support your request. SKAG123 (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KARAN SINGH JODHA (talk) 10:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THE BATTLE OF HALDIGHATI WAS WON BY THE MAHARAN PRATAP ARMY . WHEN MAHARAN PRATAP ESCAPED FROM THE BATTLE FIELD DUE TO CHETAK (HIS HORSE) INJURY . PRATAP'S ONE OF COMMENDER JHALA BIDA TAKE PLACE OF PARTAP AND WHERE HIS CROWN TO CONFUSED THE MUGAL ARMY AND AS RESULT WAR WAS WON BY THE SISODIYA'S OF MEWAR. AND IF THE MUGHALS WON THEN DID THEY ATTACK SIX TIMES AGAIN TO DEFEAT PARATP . IT REFERS FORM CLASS 10TH RBSE BOARD HISTORY BOOK AND MULLA ABDUL QADIR BADAYUNI WROTE A BOOK ON HALDIGHATI WAR IN HIS BOOK MUNTAKHAB-UL-TAWARIKH HE WROTE THAT THO BATTLE WAS WON BY MAHARAN PRATP OF MEWAR.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 11:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maharana Pratap won the battle of Haldighati because many resources comes in the front of scholars which showed that Maharana Pratap won the Haldighati battle Anpppp (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - as you have not provided any WP:reliable sources to support your claim, let alone sufficient evidence to outweigh the existing sources. - Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Change the stated size of the Mughal army to reflect that multiple historical traditions and regional sources record the Mughal strength at **80,000+**, instead of the currently listed “10,000 men,” which underrepresents the army's actual scale.

• • Current (infobox):** ~2025-32641-88 (talk) 21:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Cinderella157 (talk) 22:15, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NotJamestack (talk) 22:31, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 15:45, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 17:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 17:42, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 17:53, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Jaisa Barhath and Keshav Sauda to the notable participants list.

• Source: Book Mahārāṇā Pratāpa ke pramukha sahayogī by Devi Singh Mandawa.
• Details: Page 166 (Jaisa Barhath) and Page 174 (Keshav Sauda).
• They led the 'Chandawal' (rear guard) unit during the battle. Himatdan78 (talk) 18:04, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, these are not supported by the body of the article and should not be added. Also, we already have too many and this should be culled. Cinderella157 (talk) 22:51, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern about the Infobox length, but I would like to present the full historical evidence for the inclusion of Jaisa Barhath and Keshav Sauda in the article body:

1. **Academic Sources:** Their leadership of the 'Chandawal' (rear guard) is documented by renowned historians:

  * **Gopi Nath Sharma** (1974) in Glories of Mewar, pp. 119-120.
  * **Devi Singh Mandawa** in Mahārāṇā Pratāpa ke pramukha sahayogī, pp. 166, 174.
  * **D. L. Paliwal** (1970) in Mewar Through the Ages.

2. **Visual & Institutional Proof:** They are identified as prominent warriors (No. 22 and 23) in the historical painting **File:Haldighati.JPG** on Wikimedia Commons, which is based on extensive research by the **Maharana Mewar Foundation, Udaipur**.

3. **Consistency:** These figures are already cited in the "Charan" Wikipedia article. Excluding them here creates a factual inconsistency within Wikipedia itself.

I request you to add them to the "Order of Battle" or "Army Configuration" section to ensure the article is historically complete and honors the verified contribution of the Charan warriors. Himatdan78 (talk) 02:49, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 02:48, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

request to add name of two charan warriors in this article. I understand the concern about the Infobox length, but I would like to present the full historical evidence for the inclusion of Jaisa Barhath and Keshav Sauda in the article body: 1. **Academic Sources:** Their leadership of the 'Chandawal' (rear guard) is documented by renowned historians:

 * **Gopi Nath Sharma** (1974) in Glories of Mewar, pp. 119-120.
 * **Devi Singh Mandawa** in Mahārāṇā Pratāpa ke pramukha sahayogī, pp. 166, 174.
 * **D. L. Paliwal** (1970) in Mewar Through the Ages.

2. **Visual & Institutional Proof:** They are identified as prominent warriors (No. 22 and 23) in the historical painting **File:Haldighati.JPG** on Wikimedia Commons, which is based on extensive research by the **Maharana Mewar Foundation, Udaipur**.

3. **Consistency:** These figures are already cited in the "Charan" Wikipedia article. Excluding them here creates a factual inconsistency within Wikipedia itself.

I request you to add them to the "Order of Battle" or "Army Configuration" section to ensure the article is historically complete and honors the verified contribution of the Charan warriors.

Himatdan78 (talk) 13:16, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No such sections. Use request format of change X to Y. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:28, 28 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Following the requested "Change X to Y" format, I am proposing an edit to the **"Army formation"** section to include verified historical figures:

• • Please change:**

> "Pratap, astride his horse, led some 1,300 soldiers in the center. Bards, priests, and other civilians were also part of the formation and took part in the fighting."

• • To:**

> "Pratap, astride his horse, led some 1,300 soldiers in the center. This formation included prominent Charan warriors such as **Jaisa Barhath** and **Keshav Sauda Barhath**, who fought alongside the bards, priests, and other civilians. The Bhil bowmen brought up the rear.[20]"

• • Supporting Academic Sources:**
• **Gopi Nath Sharma** (1974) in Glories of Mewar, pp. 119-120.
• **Devi Singh Mandawa** in Mahārāṇā Pratāpa ke pramukha sahayogī, pp. 166, 174.
• **D. L. Paliwal** (1970) in Mewar Through the Ages.

• • Reasoning:** These figures are historically verified and identified (No. 22 and 23) in the historical painting File:Haldighati.JPG on Wikimedia Commons, researched by the **Maharana Mewar Foundation**, Udaipur.

Himatdan78 (talk) 02:48, 28 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Himatdan78 (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Proposed text is MOS:EDITORIALIZING. The article should evidence that they were prominent. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:27, 29 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of haldighati was non decisive as none of the forces got defeated. Even after the battle the currency of Mewar remained the same with logo of mewar on it. ~2026-65785-8 (talk) 22:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]