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Requested move 27 March 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

– These changes are necessary in order to comply with the established naming convention WP:CANSTATION. These changes are also necessary to finalize consistency with article naming for all Canadian railroad and transit stations. The proposed changes for GO Transit stations align with article naming currently used for commuter stations of the West Coast Express in British Columbia, Exo commuter rail in Québec, and all inter-city rail stations of Canada current and former. The proposed naming scheme is also the standard formatting used with all stations of the CTrain (Calgary), Edmonton LRT, REM (Montreal), O-Train (Ottawa), Toronto subway, SkyTrain (Vancouver), and Ion rapid transit (Waterloo Region). In addition to the proposed changes for the GO Transit system, I have also listed several stations outside of GO Transit, in order to add disambiguation for stations sharing the same name as stations served by GO Transit. This especially will reduce confusion related to a current lack of disambiguation. As for the remaining stations, no other articles have a matching name, and disambiguation is not required per WP:DABNAME. Cards84664 19:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 12:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 11:17, 12 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Valorrr (lets chat) 16:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: logical standardization of these names. One tweak: King City should be dabbed since there's a former (and proposed) US station by the same name. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Cards84664 20:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Three of the above will have to be fixed in order for the RMCD bot to recognize this request. If not fixed then this move request will have to be procedurally closed. The three are Darlington GO Station, Oshawa Central GO Station and Thornton's Corners GO Station, all of which are redirects, and redirects are ineligible to be current titles in move requests. Also, Long Branch station is a disambiguation page, so that entry also needs to be eliminated or changed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 20:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. I also removed Bloor. Cards84664 20:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thank you! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 02:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fully Oppose per WP:CRITERIA, namely naturalness, precision, and concision. Perhaps recognizability as well. We should NEVER add parenthetical disambiguation to multiple articles just to "be consistent". This is a solution looking for a problem and a local guideline cannot override a project-wide policy per WP:CONLEVEL. —Joeyconnick (talk) 20:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There is nothing natural or precise about the current article names - in particular, the capitalized "Station" is a blatant MOS:CAPS violation. Why should this one system be an exception to naming policies used on tens of thousands of station articles? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:06, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The most obvious example of why this change is needed is Rutherford station. Both stations have the same name, both stations have signage with the same name. One should not be perceived as being more notable or WP:PRITOP than the other just because the naming formats are currently different. Cards84664 21:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If a paritcular pair of stations has an issue, that can be dealt with for those 2 stations. That doesn't require changing the article titles on dozens of other articles. —Joeyconnick (talk) 19:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see how adding GO to every single article title satisfies concision. The CONLEVEL question is sticky. WP:CANSTATION was adopted as a guideline and has consensus. Extending it to cover GO stations in 2020 was discussed at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Canadian stations)#GO station naming and not adopted, but there wasn't a formal RfC to test the assertion that "X GO Station" is an official name. The inconsistent usage of "X GO", "X GO station", and "X station" would be enough under WP:NCCAPS to rule out an official name. They might be common names, but see my evidence below. I don't think it's clear-cut, and as far as I know this is the only set of station articles on the North American continent named in this way. Mackensen (talk) 00:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. These Go stations are commonly referred to with GO as part of the name. I would support decapitlising Station though. -- Whpq (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, if that's a significant issue, I would be okay with lowercasing i.e. GO station. My understanding was it was capitalized because regional rail stations get capitalized Station as it's considered part of a proper name (heavy rail stations between cities) while metro stations get station. —Joeyconnick (talk) 19:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Trains and Canadian Wikipedians' notice board have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 12:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@XtraJovial: Modifiers were completely phased out years ago on all North American station articles. "X station" is the current format. Cards84664 22:50, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative Station in these names should not be capitalised as a matter of course per WP:CANSTATION and WP:NCCAPS. I count that 21 titles (less than one-third) require some form of disambiguation. WP:NATURAL disambiguation is much more preferable and comma delimited disambiguation is more natural than parentheses. Where disambiguation is necessary, I would propose titles such as: Appleby GO station and Brampton station Ontario (or Brampton station, Ontario). I would oppose unnecessary WP:OVERPRECISION for the sake of WP:CONSISTENTCY, since a good majority of these stations do not require disambiguation. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:03, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:TRAINWRECK which serendipitously applies here. It's preferable to use natural disambiguation over parenthetical disambiguation. Removing the word "GO" might be a good idea if it isn't needed for disambiguation or if it's not an official part of the name, but that might need to be resolved on a case-by-case basis. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 00:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no difference if the renamings are proposed separately or together, either method used is still my request to apply the naming convention of WP:CANSTATION. Cards84664 05:42, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The naming convention says to use natural disambiguation where appropriate. However, this RM contains several moves that get rid of natural disambiguation by refactoring "GO Station" to "station (GO Transit)".
I would support dropping "GO" from the name when it doesn't require adding a parenthetical disambiguation, so I think the nomination should be split up. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 16:39, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a completely standard nom for multiple pages of the same subject. The argument that this is a WP:TRAINWRECK is very odd and out of place. Gonnym (talk) 12:36, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support: This proposed nomenclature is also consistent with the typical usage within articles. It's especially nice for stations such as Guildwood and Oakville that are not only GO stations, and stations like Kitchener and St Catharines whose articles already use this format. Suggestion: King City can omit the "(GO Transit)" suffix since the other King City station is abandoned and therefore less notable Reaperexpress (talk) 08:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
King City, California is planning to build an Amtrak station, @Pi.1415926535: does that fall under WP:CRYSTAL? Cards84664 16:57, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Breslau GO Station should be moved to Breslau station, Finch–Kennedy GO Station to Finch–Kennedy station, Innisfil GO Station to Innisfil station, King–Liberty GO Station to King–Liberty station, Kirby GO Station to Kirby station, Lawrence–Kennedy GO Station to Lawrence–Kennedy station, Mulock GO Station to Mulock station and St. Clair–Old Weston GO Station to St. Clair–Old Weston station. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrobyte (talk • contribs) 15:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
plus Added Cards84664 16:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to x GO station, per XtraJovial The most common word I hear dropped when talking about the stations is station, not GO. Everyone calls these places GO stations or just GO.
Legend of 14 (talk) 22:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose dropping GO. Legend of 14 (talk) 05:28, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.