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The result was Delete per unanimous vote/failure of WP:ATHLETE --JForget Could be reinstated should we officially plays in a pro league. 00:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ádám Bogdán (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Young footballer who has not played in a fully professional league, therefore failing WP:ATHLETE. He has youth caps, but consensus is that these do not confer notability. Article has already been deleted once (via prod) for the same reason. пﮟოьεԻ 57 12:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ 57 12:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - The guy plays for Bolton's first team, seems unnecessary to remove the article. — chandler — 20:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - he has to date never played for Bolton's first team -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I know, but I still think being a member of a Premier League team makes a person notable. — chandler — 13:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not really - how many youth players have been given a squad number and then never made it. I would guess at well over a hundred. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Not usual for them to have number 1 or a number from 1-11 though. — chandler — 13:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete He fails WP:ATHLETE as he hasn't actually played at the highest level accept for youth caps. He fails WP:BIO for not being covered in reliable 3rd party sources in a non-trival manner. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, clearly fails notability at WP:ATHLETE, having never played in a fully-pro league/competition. Youth caps do not confer notability either. Re-create if he makes a notable appearance. Keeping a player based on what squad number he has been allocated is just ridiculous. --Jimbo^[online] 15:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - it's very rare to see someone given a squad number in the top 11 (at the very least) without them making a single first team appearance throughout an entire season. In particular, #1 (goalkeeper), #9 (striker), and #10 (playmaker) are coveted numbers. Also following a club legend (eg. Walcott receiving #14 at Arsenal) is another sign of prestige. It's not like Gary Megson puts all his players in 1 hat, all his squad numbers in another one, and picks randomly to decide. In addition, clubs like Bolton are not known for giving players squad numbers and not playing them - clubs like Arsenal do that, in order to make up the numbers on the bench when they play meaningless games (like early Carling Cup rounds). ugen64 (talk) 16:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Jogurney (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The squad number is a curiosity, but a look at Bolton's squad list suggests he is the fourth choice keeper (behind Jussi Jääskeläinen, Ali Al Habsi and Ian Walker) and therefore unlikely to play even in the cups. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - If this article gets deleted then so should Zoltan Harsanyi because he hasn't played either. Also I agree that they don't just randomley give out Number 1 shirts to Youth Players — Purple LuigiPurple Luigi — 12:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Harsanyi has played in the top division in Slovakia. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Shortcomings with WP:ATHLETE are hard to overlook. Okiefromokla ^questions? 02:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 16:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This English-based Hungarian soccer player fails WP:ATHLETE. I can't see how being a member of an English Premier League team makes a person notable, if he did not play a single match for his club. --Carioca (talk) 19:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.