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Split Zoophilia and Bestiality

Research about this topic unanimously agree that zoophilia and bestiality are different things, yet this article is clumsily trying to talk about the both of them at the same time (sometimes confusing people who engage bestiality with zoophiles, despite research saying that these are different groups of people). Bestiality is redirecting to here right now, if anyone wants to write an article there, I recommend that you use these sources right here (doi).

  • doi.org/10.1002/bsl.2368
  • doi.org/10.1111/soc4.12306
  • doi.org/10.1300/J158v04n02_01
  • Beetz, Andrea M. "New insights into bestiality and zoophilia." Anthrozoos-Journal of the International Society for Anthrozoology 18 (2005): 98-119. (free pdf on google scholar). SparklyNights (t) 22:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just for clarity's sake: if I'm getting this correctly, zoophilia is sexual excitement at the idea of sex acts involving animals, whereas bestiality is actually engaging in sex acts with actual animals? Is that right? Beeblebrox (talk) 00:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's exactly it. SparklyNights (t) 01:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral to weak support this page about this area of discussion is generally complete but not necessarily big enough that it 100% needs to be split. Wikipedia is not a WP:DICTIONARY and it will usually make more sense to cover several related ideas under one heading where they are overlapping even if they are slightly different. However I think there is potentially enough here to support two pages and to have a link between them somehow if someone wants to do the work of grabbing the different parts for a new page. Jorahm (talk) 19:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not only does zoophilia need to be distinguished from bestiality as a separate entry, but the entire article needs to be re-written to remove incorrect, un-cited, and heavily biased claims.
Zoophilia is (mis)understood as several different things that ought to be addressed on this page (among many other things);
  • A paraphilia (correct: zoophilia is an atypical erotic interest, as stated by the American Psychiatric Association (APA))
  • A clinical condition (incorrect: paraphilias are not to be diagnosed according to the APA)
  • A mental disorder (incorrect: "Zoophilic Disorder" is a separate thing to zoophilia and falls under the Other Specified Paraphilic Disorder category of the Diagnostic Manual. The details regarding this illness are complex enough to warrant its own section, with copious links to related wiki articles)
  • Sexual activity between human and animal (incorrect: the word for this is bestiality, which has its own history and debate)
  • Illegal (incorrect: bestiality is legislated against, not zoophilia; all legal context needs to be in the article for bestiality)
  • A sexual identity/sexuality (Complicated: people use the term "zoo" as an identity to the extent that this page probably should have a section for this. There is no good scientific literature on this (yet), but does that matter? There are plenty of sources available from the community)
  • The desire to have sex with animals (Complicated: as previously stated, there are people who use the term as an identity, and there's significant nuance to how people feel about bestiality even within the zoo community. This ought to be recognised on this page to help inform people better and reduce stereotyping people who may even have a mental illness resulting from their unwanted attraction)
Conflict of interest:
I am a researcher and social support advocate from the "zoo community", but this page has repeatedly been referenced as a source for great misunderstanding regarding both zoophilia and the zoophilic disorder condition. I do have an interest in seeing people treated better as a whole, but I think there's enough wrong here that even if I weren't a part of the community, I'd still be voicing my concerns. I'm more than willing to help write a neutral and well-sourced article for this page, and undergo any and all scrutiny to achieve something that can be agreed upon. Fillthymutt (talk) 06:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not to put too fine a point on it, as I generally don't support giving people a hard time over their username, but you for sure could've made a better choice if advocating for people who have sex with animals is your priority here. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 08:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this article, I don't see many references to publications that show zoophilia in a neutral light - and even the ones that do, the wiki author appears to have been subject to interpretation bias. I feel this has harmed the accuracy of your information. For example, the APA reworded the DSM(5) with the hopes that it would destigmatize paraphilias and related research, but even though that happened, the sections which reference the APA and updated DSM (#Research_perspectives) continue to call zoophilia a disorder. The APA explicitly stated in several DSM5-accompanying documents that paraphilias are not inherently paraphilic disorders, so whoever wrote that section completely misunderstood that "zoophilia" (the attraction to animals) is not even included in their references. I would very much like to help repair this article for objective accuracy.
Do you know the incidence rate of bestiality, and how that correlates with zoophilia? I'm sorry, but I think you're proving my point by suggesting zoophiles are "people who have sex with animals". It's implied in the very article we're discussing; most zoophiles do not have sex with animals. Despite my complaints, I think that is one thing this article gets right (albeit with incomplete and outdated information). Zoophilia is an attraction. Nothing else should be inferred, because nothing else seems to correlate. The community itself doesn't agree on much - but they tend to agree on that.
As for my name, this is not the place for such discussion, but I also don't want to be reprimanded for a misunderstanding; in short: *I* am the mutt (it's a joke reference to other names I go by). I originally picked it because I thought it was appropriately disturbing for such a community, but found myself pleasantly surprised that most of them despise fetishists. I keep it now because I have become well known for my extensive research, surveys and debates. My hope is to publish something peer-reviewed under my full name someday - but for now, this is what several thousand people know me by, and I don't want to be accused of trying to covertly manipulate wikipedia, so I have chosen to create this new wiki account with the same screen name. I hope this explains. Fillthymutt (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title change

I'm afraid calling the article as just "Zoophilia" might confuse other Wikipedians. Can you change the title to either "Zoophilia and Bestiality" or "Zoophilia/Bestiality"? If the decision is made to keep "Zoophilia", despite the possible confusion to the other Wikipedians, why? FSlolhehe (talk) 09:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden has outlawed sexual acts with animals in 2014 in accordance with kap 2. 10 § djurskyddslagen. Which translates to chapter 2. 10 § animal welfare law. The Swedish Wikipedia page of zoophilia correctly states this, provided below is a source directly from the horse's mouth, a website run by the Swedish Parliament (riksdag) outlining the animal welfare act/law, it scrolls to chapter 2 but a bit further down is part 10 which is the relevant part. The law provides exceptions for veterinarian work, breeding and others with a proper justification.

https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssamling/djurskyddslag-20181192_sfs-2018-1192/#K2 Albl1122 (talk) 15:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will update when I have some time. Thanks. Zenomonoz (talk) 13:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2025

The addittion of the following text: However, sexual attraction to sapient, or fictional non-human entities could fall under different categories, often distinguished from zoophilia due to the presence of human-like traits and intelligence.

After the sentence: Zoophilia is a paraphilia in which a person experiences a sexual fixation on non-human animals.

Or a similarly worded change would be recommend as with the loose, current definition of Zoophilia applies to Teratophilia, Exophilia and other paraphilias that might not even fall under Zoophilia. EmperorKermir (talk) 19:18, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 23:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zoophilia
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