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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dead man's hand in popular culture (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Effectively another list of works that mention topic foo, here, list of works that mention dead man's hand, violating WP:GNG, WP:NLIST, MOS:TRIVIA, WP:IPC and WP:NOTTVTROPES, in descending order of issues faced (WP:V too I guess, given lack of footnotes for most stuff here). Some of the stuff is not even clearly related like "Big Boss Brewing in Raleigh, NC, brews a beer called "Aces and Ates."" I doubt any of that trivia merits merger to Dead man's hand, but perhaps a SOFTDELETE redirect could be implemented (sadly, that article doesn't even has a stubby section on this topic, unless one considers the legacy section there, about the use of the related symbols by some American police departments, as such - but that section there is based on primary sources, so hey, did I mentioned WP:OR yet? Sigh). This mess probably needs WP:TNT, and I am not sure a rewrite on Wikipedia is possible - this is probably something best left to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadMansHand for now, I am afraid. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Popular culture, Lists, and United States of America. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: "... In popular culture" articles that are pure lists need to die out. There is no encyclopedic information to be gleaned here. The fact that some songs reference a famous thing is not a reason for there to be an article about those references. Why? I Ask (talk) 06:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. If someone can think up with a way to trim, merge, and make the list fit the main article without violating the list of policies and guidelines the nom listed, I will support it, but right now the list is unfortunately a mess and will need WP:TNT. Ping me if anything comes up. —siroχo 06:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete needs WP:TNT as the majority is not verified and therefore is just assertion by the editor(s) who wrote it. Seems unlikely to me that independent sources could be found to cite all this trivia. JMWt (talk) 08:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete nothing but mostly unsourced trivia, no usable information here. Completely non-encyclopedic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeirdNAnnoyed (talk • contribs) 14:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I don't know how it can be trimmed or merged. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 16:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As article creator way back, I created it to move the trivia temptation away from the important article because I hate trivia in here. However, I fear it will just find a new home back in the article. I guess we can try to keep it out as best we can. I have no problem trashing this article. I also did the same to the John Wesley Hardin and Bloody Mary (folklore) articles. (Did I mention I really hate trivia in an encyclopedia?) They can die, too, while we're at it. GenQuest ^"scribble" 17:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTTVTROPES Dronebogus (talk) 14:49, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.