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Greetings, I need to edit a title page so that it reflect the popular name of the person who is its subject. How do I do that? --HRM Queen Mother Dowoti Desir (talk) 02:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HRM Queen Mother Dowoti Desir,

As a new editor, you won't be able to move articles until you reach auto-confirmed status. It is a time-limited and experience-limited (by number of edits) status. You can however make a technical request for another editor/admin to move it for you at Requested Moves/Technical Request.

Additionally, your username implies that you are a well-known person. Per WP:Username policy, your account shall be blocked until the account is verified. Please see the message that's being posted on your talk page. IF you are not the person or is represent the person, please request for a username change. – robertsky (talk) 02:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I am an autopatrolled user so I don't really need my articles reviewed most of the time. However sometimes an article exists already as a redirect so I need to use WP:RM. I created the draft and someone moves it to override the redirect. Most of the time there is no issue.

What I do have an issue is a lot of times I have noticed, these pages are marked as unreviewed. I created the draft so shouldn't it already be marked as reviewed? Or is it because the person moving it doesn't have autopatrolled status?

Given this has happened a few times lately, is there a way to resolve this so I don't need to keep requesting for others to review articles that are moved over redirects? Imcdc Contact 01:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Imcdc that's strange. there are only two possibilities:

1. My impression is that the automatic review status is tagged on the article even when the page moves. If it functions otherwise without external intervention, there is a bug with the system or my impression is wrong.
2. If the page mover who processed your requests is also an NPP patroller, and assuming that the review status is unchanged, it could mean that the page mover had intentionally remove the auto reviewed status. You would have to ask the editor who processed your request what they saw in the page curation toolbar.

There is a way to resolve, you getting page mover rights, and use the pageswap process yourself. Do you want the rights? – robertsky (talk) 02:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The latest example is Walton Enterprises. I created the original draft but its marked as unreviewed in NPP.

I would like to get page mover rights to skip asking people. However I will be only using the rights for my own articles as part of uncontroversial technical moves. Is this ok? Imcdc Contact 02:18, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Imcdc I was reviewing the moves you had made anyway, and despite the lack of requested moves discussions participation, I think it should be fine to grant you the rights. – robertsky (talk) 02:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for granting me the rights as well as reviewing the article above.

Just want to ask since you have access to page curation which I don't, does it provide the review history on Walton Enterprises? Are there any details from it to explain why it is not marked as reviewed despite the draft being created as an autopatrolled user? Imcdc Contact 02:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's no history shown for Walton Enterprises. Actually, my assumption on the article review status getting carried over might be wrong. @Novem Linguae, any insights that you may have? – robertsky (talk) 02:54, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=pagetriage-curation&user=&page=Walton+Enterprises&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist is the review history for Walton Enterprises. But some actions such as autopatrolling or moving are probably implicit and probably don't generate a log entry. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:20, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Or is it because the person moving it doesn't have autopatrolled status? It's probably this. Moving across namespaces marks the page unreviewed, and the mover's autopatrolled status is the one that is checked for autopatrolled, not the creator's, I think. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:18, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This probably makes sense. However I would provide two more recent examples. OC&C Strategy Consultants and Espressif Systems are two articles of mine that started in draft form. I have requested them to be moved to mainspace. Despite them being moved by David Gerald and Extraordinary Writ who are both admins, the pages were marked as unreviewed and I had to get a senior editor to help review them. I can understand if its regular users who don't have autopatrol status but it seems this issue even exists when admins are moving drafts across namespaces? Imcdc Contact 07:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Admins are no longer autopatrolled by default, per a 2021 RFC. Certain select admins have also been assigned the autopatrol right, which makes them autopatrolled, but most do not have this. Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2021 review/Proposals#Passed: 7D Remove autopatrolled from default toolkit. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:06, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok. Then I think we have our explanation for this issue. Basically if a non-autopatrol user moves pages across namespaces then the article will be marked unreviewed. Most users aren't autopatrolled so this makes sense. Its just a bit frustrating however if you are an autopatrolled user and someone without the autopatrol rights moves an article and you have to get it reviewed again. Now that I have page mover rights, this shouldn't be an issue for me so it should be solved now. However it is something to consider for other autopatrolled users who do not have as many rights. Imcdc Contact 07:13, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Where can I find my sandbox? Im not new to Wikipedia, this is a new account I made as a fresh start. I've never edited nor created articles but want to start. --Tkos1989 (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tkos1989 you should be able to find it in the navigation bar above. See also WP: Sandbox. – robertsky (talk) 05:43, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, I got it now. Tkos1989 (talk) 05:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hlw --SAMIR k hazra (talk) 07:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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