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Note: There is an correct link to this page from the Audie Murphy page. That Scott Turner was a songwriting partner to Murphy. "Scottie" helped me with my own songwriting efforts in the early 1990s. PrairieOjibway (talk) 03:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok people the the goverment image is not Deleated yet as soon as it is gone for real then lets replace the Photo. Thanks so mutch. 2600:1004:A031:FC54:550D:B2CE:96E7:4CB8 (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Search link
This needs to be searchable by the name "Eric Turner." Currently it is only searchable as Scott Turner and Eric Scott Turner. I don't know how to make that happen. Badger411 (talk) 18:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, as there are many articles for people sharing this common combination of a given name and surname, and HUD is generally one of the lower-profile cabinet positions. BD2412T01:14, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It's worth noting that WP:PRIMARYTOPIC lays out two major factors commonly considered in determining a primary topic: In addition to looking at long-term significance and notability, "[a] topic [can be] primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." That's not to say that primary topics should be changed constantly, based on a single day, week, or even month's headlines, but, even if Turner the HHS secretary's page views level out, I don't think it's remotely a stretch to predict that far more users will be looking for information on the incumbent high-ranking U.S. government official than on the mid-level coach of a professional sports team. Obviously, Wikipedia's not static: if the HHS secretary leaves office and/or the coach gets offered a more prestigious job, it's worth re-assessing things, but, for the foreseeable future, moving is the obvious choice. Rockhead126 (talk) 02:05, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That presumes WP:CRYSTAL which we do not have the benefit of. Therefore we must go off of current and historical, not projective theories about what might be. When we look back prior to the most recent election cycle (eg RECENTISM) we must consider that the football player was 4x more popular by pageviews[1]. So it takes more than the jump in popularity due to an election cycle to garner PTOPIC. Its just like when an book author or musician dies, there is often a HUGE spike in traffic, but vary rarely does it sustain for long, so its too soon to tell if this is long standing, or just a blip. TiggerJay(talk)05:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What "long term" are you talking about? For the period of Oct 2020 to Sept 2024 the football player was 4x more viewed[2]. Recent history does support greater page views, but that is exactly what RECENTISM is designed to address. TiggerJay(talk)05:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for reasons provided above, this is classic RECINTISM at work here, and the football player was 4x more popular (long term, 2020 to 2024) until this most recent election cycle. We do not have the benefit for WP:CRYSTAL so this is either simply RECINTISM, or at best, TOOSOON. TiggerJay(talk)05:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nomination focuses solely on page views and not long-term significance, which we are also supposed to take into account. The idea of a relatively minor cabinet secretary who's only been in office for a few months having primary precedence is a little ridiculous, especially since there are several other Scott Turners on Wikipedia. The recent spike in the politician's page views is related only to his entrance into the cabinet and the election. If the politician does get sustained primary topic level page views of more than just a few months, or perhaps gets a higher position if there is a reshuffle, this nomination can obviously be revisited. Billclinton1996 (talk) 20:23, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]