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USA ambassadors tweet got a reply, yet it is missing in the criticsm section. I want to add an unbalanced tag to it. A shopping list of which Jews think she is not "fit for the job" yet where is her response? And she gave a shark one at that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hausa warrior (talk • contribs) 11:58, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Occupied, legally not correct, needs to be edited to legally purchased and sold by parties who did nopt own the land legally to begin with, therefore, per UN regulatory legislation, the "occupation" is null,m and therefore legal land owned,, so "occupation" exo territory descriptive subliment, must be corrected. RebelFox77 (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. No original research. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This entry suggests that Francesca Albanese is Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam. This is not the case. She is not affiliated with ISS or Erasmus University (See www.iss.nl). Please remove this part of the sentence. 145.5.176.13 (talk) 13:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See below entry. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This ended up being implemented. See the entry Talk:Francesca Albanese#False academic claims. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Change this text She is an Affiliate Scholar at the Institute for the Study of International Migration at Georgetown University, a Senior Advisor on Migration and Forced Displacement at the non-profit Arab Renaissance for Democracy and Development (ARDD),[2] and Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam.

To She is an Affiliate Scholar at the Institute for the Study of International Migration at Georgetown University and a Senior Advisor on Migration and Forced Displacement at the non-profit Arab Renaissance for Democracy and Development (ARDD),[2].

Please note that this text is there twice, it's also under Career. Maybe take out the first bit. Change should be made as this person is not a Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam. Snijhof (talk) 22:11, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

❌ Not done.

The cited source says "Albanese è anche Research Fellow all’International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam", which DeepL translates as "Albanese is also a Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam".

This information is reasonable to include in the body of the article, and since the lede is a summary of the body it is fine to include there as well. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 21:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This ended up being done. See the entry below (Talk:Francesca Albanese#False academic claims). IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article states: Albanese holds a law degree with honours from the University of Pisa and a Master of Laws in human rights from SOAS University of London, and she is completing her PhD in International Refugee Law at the Law Faculty of Amsterdam University.[2] She is an Affiliate Scholar at the Institute for the Study of International Migration at Georgetown University, a Senior Advisor on Migration and Forced Displacement at the non-profit Arab Renaissance for Democracy and Development (ARDD),[2] and Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam.[5] Widely published,[6] she co-founded at ARDD the Global Network on the Question of Palestine.[2] In 2020, she and Lex Takkenberg wrote the Oxford University Press-published Palestinian Refugees in International Law.[7]

According to an inquiry by the Dutch Nieuw Israëlitisch Weekblad with Dutch universities, Albanese is neither a Research Fellow at Erasmus University nor a PhD student at Amsterdam University. I do not know about other claims in the article; however, the article does report the false claims made on Wikipedia. In fact, it includes a screen capture of the text above. This warrants serious scrutiny, as it is already causing reputational damage to Wikipedia.

I do not understand why the fact-checking was rejected time after time. Once the requests were even removed from the talk page. The article states that Erasmus University attempted to remove the claims themselves but was unable to get the false claims removed. This entire article needs to be reviewed. To mitigate damages, I will add a peacock warning for now. gidonb (talk) 00:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed both claims - that she is a Research Fellow at Erasmus University and that she is a PhD student at Amsterdam University. Neither claim was well sourced and a Google search yields little to confirm this information. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:17, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is the reason for the peacock tag, @Gidonb? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be interested to know more about your statement re "Once the requests were even removed from the talk page." IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:20, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's what I saw in the history. When people ask to remove information time and again, please ask for assistance. A lesson for next time. Wikipedia is a community project and we are here to help each other! The article says that some of the false information was also in her resume. Was that the basis for rejecting the change before? gidonb (talk) 01:41, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"It's what I saw in the history." - Still not sure what you're talking about. If you're talking about this [1], I just removed a duplicate and triplicate of the same edit request by the same user, and only after I answered the edit request. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I only declined the request since there was a citation supporting the information. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, the citations were:

The citation that supported Albanese being a Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam was ^[1]

And the citation that supported Albanese was "completing her PhD in International Refugee Law at the Law Faculty of Amsterdam University" was ^[2]

-IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the peacock warning. I did explain it above. It was because we shared false information from the subject's resume and elsewhere and to mitigate reputational damage for Wikipedia. I still believe the entire article should be fact checked but the misinformation about connections with Dutch universities and the consequences for us were the direct cause. That's all the NIW article checked. I am no fan of excessive templates. Only when strictly needed. gidonb (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you, @Gidonb. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The screenshot depicted by the Nieuw Israelitiesch Weekblad was apparently downloaded from the University of Bologna and is from 2023. According to the email from the University of Amsterdam quoted by the NIW, she was still a PhD candidate at that time. This doesn't seem to be a dark secret of Albanese's, just outdated information on Wikipedia. DaWalda (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your reaction masks the severity and timeline of the misinformation. The live data FROM YESTERDAY (i.e. not 2023) was copy-posted by me to this section. See top. It claims that she is completing her PhD in International Refugee Law at the Law Faculty of Amsterdam University. Albanese was stopped from participating in the program because she NEVER STARTED putting in the academic work. How is that completing at any point in time, now or in the past? Furthermore, our article also claimed YESTERDAY that Albanese was a Research Fellow at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam. Erasmus told the NIW this never happened and that they could not fix our false information. gidonb (talk) 23:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, the NIW article is from yesterday. The article doesn’t mention when the "current resume" is from – possibly on purpose, since it’s apparently from 2023. DaWalda (talk) 23:51, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is getting into WP:NOTAFORUM territory, @DaWalda, @Gidonb. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But this is important because we will need to add it to the body of the article. At no time was Albanese finishing a PhD at the University of Amsterdam or a research fellow at Erasmus University. According to the universities it just did not happen. That's two false academic claims exposed in a reliable source (NIW) and UNTIL YESTERDAY in Wikipedia. Our article will not be POV without it. gidonb (talk) 00:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NIW appears to be a small pro-Israel newspaper so its reporting does not have a lot of weight. Assuming NIW's report is accurate, the story seems to be more relevant to English Wikipedia's own Wikipedia page. Perhaps something like "In 2025, Wikipedia's information about Francesca Albanese was out-of-date or inaccurate. Erasmus University said it tried and failed to correct the information". However, its unlikely to be considered important enough for inclusion there. Burrobert (talk) 03:57, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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