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Here is the article: Caused in part by a drought, the Russian famine of 1921 was the most severe that the country had experienced since that of 1891, resulting in around five million deaths.
Here is the lede of the article on the 1891 famine: The 1891–1892 famine in the Russian Empire, sometimes called the Tsar Famine, Tsar's Famine or Black Earth Famine, began along the Volga River and spread as far as the Urals and Black Sea. During the famine, an epidemic also raged, in total 375,000-400,000 died from hunger and disease, mainly from diseases.
Don't revert my change and tell me I am disruptive. 5 million deaths is worse than 400,000 deaths. The article is wrong and must be changed. Don't fob me off saying the claim is sourced. If an academic source says the Moon is made of cheese, you don't get to write that in the article on the Moon. Switch your brains on for goodness sake people! LastDodo (talk) 10:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are fixating on nothing. It is completely clear what the passage is saying, and it is correct. It is not saying that 1921–1922 had a lower body count than 1891, it is referencing the most recent major famine, whose legacy would've been important to actors in this period of Russian history. Your multi-year insistence on the unjustified extrapolation that it must be saying the former is indeed disruptive. Move on. Remsense ‥ 论00:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If I say 'this was the worst storm in ten years' I am implying there was a storm ten years ago worse than the current one. If I say 'he was the worst Prime Minister since Lord North' (which became a common thing to say after that man's premiership), I am implying the PM I am referring to is bad, but Lord North was worse. Likewise, if I say a famine is the worst since some earlier one, I am implying the earlier one was worse. It is like writing 'the September 11th 2001 terrorist attack was the worst one since the attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993'. I could not defend such a statement by saying 'It is not saying that 9/11 had a lower body count than 1993, it is referencing the most recent major terrorist attack whose legacy would've been important to actors in this period of American history'. That would be an obvious nonsense. LastDodo (talk) 11:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, it says exactly what it says: 1921 was the worst famine since 1891. The latter is relevant because it was a point of comparison for many experiencing 1921. That's why it makes no sense to do what you thought to do and plunge backward into the medieval era. Remsense ‥ 论17:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well that seems totally mad to me, so all I can say is, I think this dicussion should be left here for a while for other people to read and comment on. I am hoping they will see sense. In the mean time, I suggest you tell people in real life that 9/11 was the worst terrorist attack since the Oklahoma bombing, or that Novak Djokovic is greatest male tennis player since Pete Sampras, or that WWI was the deadliest war since the Crimean War, and see what reaction you get. LastDodo (talk) 11:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense: I know this discussion is over but I simply cannot let this slide. The phrase "X is the worst event since Y" means that Y is worse than X. Saying that 9/11 was the worst since Oklahoma City is semantically false. In this case, it should be "9/11 was the deadliest attack. ever." Or maybe "Oklahoma City was the worst attack and was surpassed by 9/11".
Perhaps it would help if someone could quote the relevant section from the source, which I do not have access to. Is Ryan perchance referring to the harvest failure rather than the famine, or something like that? LastDodo (talk) 12:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Managed to access the book through my university’s library. Ryan doesn’t mention the 1891 famine at all; he just states that the death toll of the 1921 famine was 5 million. I would support removing the connection unless another source mentions it. 296cherry (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
His "Jewish grandfather" was actually a different man with the same name. 2A00:23C5:C419:D301:9CC1:1947:9EBA:3035 (talk) 12:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This was already discussed around three years ago, but the statement that Trotsky was specifically recommended for the job of General Secretary by Lenin in his testament is factually inaccurate. The postscript of the testament does recommend Stalin’s removal, but at no point does it suggest any specific successor, let alone Trotsky. I would also argue that the quotation currently cited regarding Trotsky is misleading, as it comes from the original document dated two weeks prior to the postscript.
I'd support the proposal in the earlier discussion, though simply removing the line Instead he recommended Trotsky for the job, describing him as "the most capable man in the present Central Committee" would probably suffice.
Done Thank you for catching this: it is astonishing that such a blatant inaccuracy is present in a featured article. For now, I have removed the line in question. I agree that the 2022 proposal by User:VioletWriting is a better summary of the testament, but it would need inline citations before it could be added to the article. Day Creature (talk) 04:21, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
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Done Thank you for catching this: it is astonishing that such a blatant inaccuracy is present in a featured article. For now, I have removed the line in question. I agree that the 2022 proposal by User:VioletWriting is a better summary of the testament, but it would need inline citations before it could be added to the article. Day Creature (talk) 04:21, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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