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The section "Notable proponents" is headed by an info box that warns, "This section may present fringe theories, without giving appropriate weight to the mainstream view."

In fact, the section only presents the names of proponents and doesn't present even a single theory, fringe or otherwise. I suggest removal of the info box. Pete.pereira (talk) 07:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I had added that notice to my own writing as a disclaimer when the text was new and under development. . I took it down per your suggestion. Feoffer (talk) 13:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This recent article in Nature (journal) may be useful. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I actually had been needing to go looking for a source just like this to cover stuff from that angle! Thanks for the shortcut. Feoffer (talk) 15:40, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the tags for Fringe theories, Tone, and Lead rewrite that were put in place January, 2025. I believe these were added by User:Feoffer to indicate "work in progress" and no longer apply after their completion of a substantial rewrite. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. Feoffer (talk) 12:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 13:07, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that removal of entire properly refed para without discussion is how things should be done around here, especially if removing a para which in no way signals potentially controversial claim(s) and is properly refed in reliable sources. @ReaderOfSciFiNovelsNPhilosophy: leaving a notice on my TP which state that you removed entire paragraph written by me is not a proper way of discussing such significant removal. I will reinstate paragraph and I am open to discuss its size, form, or even validity and if it's due at all, with whoever is interested.

I am not sure what some of the editors' requirements are, but many reliable sources specifically explain that Loebs claims amounted to a conspiracy (he claim(ed)s that those three objects are spaceships of some kind). The guy even goes as far as to claim that we have evidence here on Earth of pre-human super-civilizations. Why is he doing this, I don't know nor do I care, but this is a first-class crackpottery here and he's debased himself among his peers to a level of conspiracy theorist - reliable sources say so. ౪ Santa ౪^99° 23:50, 6 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then you need to give some indication that he claims any of it is conspiratorial. Otherwise the paragraph is clearly off topic, and we are bold with those around here. Cheers! ~2026-83449-2 (talk) 23:55, 6 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I am only required to present reliable source that confirms statement and to properly reference it. I have done that with multiple reliable sources. ౪ Santa ౪^99° 23:58, 6 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No, you are not. Text in articles needs to refer to those articles’ topics. I could cite policies but really this is self-evident. For example you don’t include a paragraph on turtles in an article about fish, even if it’s perfectly referenced. There was nothing in your paragraph indicating that it had anything to do with conspiracy theories. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-83745-8 (talk) 00:08, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]