Talk:Robie House
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Recent Changes
For some reason, Deuce X Machina desires to use this entry as a platform to espouse the position of the FLLW Preservation Trust rather than rely on the actual facts. Deuce X Machina has no knowledge regarding the preceptions of a few volunteer docents. This is simply how he/she would like to characterize the situation. In fact, representatives of the Trust expressly stated in a meeting with the docents (at which the press was not premitted to attend) that the Trust was unwilling to commit itself to the full restoration of the Robie House, including furniture and textiles.
More importantly, Deuce X Machina restates the potentially defamatory statement of Joan Mercuri, the CEO of the Preservation Trust, that the docents were terminated by the Trust for violation of the Code of Ethics. This is the assertion made by the Trust with absolutely no explanation or prior notice to the volunteers regarding what they had done that was in violation of Code of Ethics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.124.76.192 (talk) 19:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Current Status of Article
Vast improvements have been made to this article since 2007 when the banner at the top of the page was inserted. With the expanded text and inclusion of authorities, isn't it time that we took that banner down? 98.208.254.229 (talk) 22:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed! --ELEKHHT 05:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Current Controversy
I've cited a new source and included mentions of other sources that provide legitimacy to the new content. There isn't any controversy and the museum has expanded hours and program offerings, so the "Current Controversy" section is no longer relevant. In fact, Kate Hawley, who is cited in the "Current Controversy" section, states in the June 3 edition of the Hyde Park Herald that "concerns about public access appear to be unfounded . . ." —Preceding unsigned comment added by TakeThisName (talk • contribs) 17:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
TakeThisName continues to remove the portion of the Robie House article entitled "Current Controversy"? This material is relevant to the Robie House page and is verified with citations to the Hyde Park Herald, the local newspaper in Hyde Park. 165.124.76.192 (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Major unsourced changes
There have been major unsourced changes to this article since the beginning of October. Is anyone 'watching' this article? --SVTCobra (talk) 01:09, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Size
The house has been measured to be well over 6,000 sq ft, which by most measures is not a small house. Therefore, references to the house as "not particularly large" do not seem especially relevant. I am respectfully undoing recent unsourced edits that assert "smallness" as a reason for the expansive use of windows. Anomicworld (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
GA review
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Robie House/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 22:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 19:52, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
I'll get to this shortly--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:52, 10 September 2025 (UTC) I visited Robie House once when it was being used by the alumni association. All I got to see was part of the ground floor and those god-awful dining room chairs, making no allowance for human anatomy. I was enchanted with the windows, but greatly disliked the low ceiling. Those terraces are actually very small; it would have sucked to have been a child in that house and confined to playing only within the walls. At any rate...
- Images properly licensed.
- On my first read through, I'm not seeing much that needs to be changed or added. I'll do another, closer, read through looking for missing links, grammatical errors, etc.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:14, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Sturmvogel 66: Are you planning to complete this review? If not, I would like to take over. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- I got it--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:45, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Sturmvogel 66: Are you planning to complete this review? If not, I would like to take over. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Cites 6, 12–13, 25, 46, 64, 71, 99, 107, 169, 173, 180, 205, 212, 270, 285 spot checked
- Every sentence does not need its own cite. I would suggest consolidating them wherever you use the same source consecutively, like cites 61 and 67.
- Link alderman
- I would suggest linking redevelop the surrounding neighborhood to urban renewal
- I had to laugh when Philips Taylor complained about the excruciating dining room chairs that Wright had designed.
- Down to Architecture, more later--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the initial comments. Some specific replies:
- For 'I would suggest consolidating them wherever you use the same source consecutively, like cites 61 and 67." - I have done so where practical. I've had experiences in the past where several consecutive sentences are cited to a single source at the end of the paragraph, as recommended in WP:REPCITE. Even so, people tagged the intermediate sentences as needing a citation, even though these statements were already sourced. It's a conundrum; putting the citation after every single sentence is overkill, but not doing that (which I prefer to do, anyway) can sometimes lead to problems.
- I've not had that experience, but I can understand your reasoning.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:30, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've linked alderman and urban renewal.
- – Epicgenius (talk) 15:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Earwig says 32.9%, copyvio unlikely--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:34, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Were the Yahara Boat Club and the River Forest Tennis Club also designed by Wright? If so, red link them.
- Link eave
- Down to Interior, more later--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:09, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've added the two redlinks. I think eave is already linked, though. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:12, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Quite right, sorry
- Howzabout billiard?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've linked that. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:03, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Link belvedere, fieldstone
- Link or explain table scarf. Do you mean table leaves?
- Very comprehensive; sources are very high quality. Article is of FA quality.
- I'm glad to see you reviewing, just try to keep in mind that the prose, sourcing and information don't need to be nearly perfect for GAs; some infelicities of prose and incomplete coverage, etc., need to be ignored. You can point these out, but don't require them fixed to be promoted.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 08:45, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Sturmvogel 66, I appreciate it. For my GA reviews, I'll note that most of my comments are optional; for the ones that aren't, I'll usually say "so-and-so should be done". But I appreciate the feedback too. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:30, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by TechnoSquirrel69 talk 05:52, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Frederick C. Robie hired Frank Lloyd Wright to design his Chicago house (pictured) after being told, "You want one of those damn Wright houses"? Source: "Mr. Robie knew what he wanted" (PDF). Architectural Forum. Vol. 109, no. 10. October 1958. p. 127
- ALT1: ... that the Robie House (pictured) was used by its original owner for only a year? Source: Hoffmann, Donald (1984). Frank Lloyd Wright's Robie House. Courier Corporation. p. 89.
- ALT2: ... that the Robie House (pictured) stopped being used as a residence after less than 20 years? Source: Sullivan, Barbara (November 4, 1984). "Wright's Robie House: 75 Years, And Still Shining". Chicago Tribune. p. 308.
- ALT3: ... that in 1941, a graduate student inadvertently learned that the Robie House (pictured) was proposed for demolition? Source: Smith, Kathryn (Fall 2008). "How the Robie House was Saved". Frank Lloyd Wright Quarterly. Vol. 19, no. 4. p. 11 "This first effort to save the Robie House from demolition began in March 1941 when an IIT graduate student, Harvey Shaffer, discovered accidentally that the Seminary was poised to go ahead with its expansion plans. Shaffer took immediate action, alerting his IIT instructors and Frank Lloyd Wright."
- ALT4: ... that when the Robie House (pictured) was proposed for demolition in 1957, its architect offered to design a dormitory to avert its demolition? Source: Horne, Louther S. (April 15, 1957). "House by Wright Appears Doomed; Chicago Seminary Firm on Plan to Raze Robie Home Despite Pleas to Save It Wright Would Waive Fee". The New York Times.
- ALT5: ... that to raise money for a renovation of the Robie House (pictured), its operator sold bricks? Source: ["https://www.newspapers.com/article/northwest-herald-brick-purchases-to-stre/164076560/ Brick Purchases to Strengthen Wright's Robie House". Northwest Herald. January 16, 2003. p. 29.]
- ALT6: ... that the Robie House (pictured) was once called "a sheet cake that wants to be a ziggurat"? Source: Lasky, Julie (January 14, 2016). "Pilgrimage; Frank Lloyd Wright's Robie House: Where Family Life Met Tragedy; A Displaced Chicagoan Visits Frank Lloyd Wright's Robie House in Her Town—and Finds a Family Abode Way Ahead of Its Time". The Wall Street Journal.
- Reviewed: Endorois case (1/2 QPQs)
- Comment: Thanks to Bremps for suggesting some of these.
Epicgenius (talk) 13:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC).
Article was nominated within 7 days of passing GAR. QPQ completed. Article is well-sourced and neutral. No concerning pings on Earwigs. Hooks are cited and short enough for DYK; AGF on offline sources. Image properly licensed and looks fine at thumbnail size. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morgan695 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 20 October 2025 (UTC)