Talk:Nader Shah
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Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2025
CuriousMind11 (talk) 03:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Not done: Needs page numbers (quotes) and consensus. Aintabli (talk) 07:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
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References
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Valorrr (talk) 14:47, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Some questions
Questions Requiring Further Research by Scholars: 1. Was Ahmad Khan, son of Reza Qoli Mirza, appointed as a regional governor by Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar? 2. Was Shahrokh Shah, the grandson of Nader Shah, exiled first to Sari and then to Barforush (present-day Babol)? 3. According to local accounts in Mazandaran, at the same time Shahrokh Shah was being tortured, another individual in Bandpey, Mazandaran, was also tortured to reveal the location of Nader Shah’s treasures. Could this person have been connected to Nader Shah’s family? 4. Is it possible that Nader Shah’s descendants were held as hostages in the court of Fath-Ali Shah? Were the exiles in the Pamenar district of Tehran among this group? 5. Given that Reza Qoli Mirza’s wife and mother-in-law were present in the Nashel-Bandpey region, is there a possibility that they were exiled after Nader Shah’s death? Rozita89 (talk) 20:47, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Name
I can't find anything about Nāder Qoli Beyg it seems like all these were taken from here. And نادرقلیبیگ seems incorrect? Shouldn't it be نادر قلی بیگ. I get results when I search it that way. Also can someone put sources for the other two names? No mention in the article. Isn't qoli derived from qul (ie. slave?). So is it even a name or nickname? Beshogur (talk) 18:21, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Writing a multi-part name like that without spacing is not uncommon in Persian writing, even today, but I can't speak to what is correct or the most common in this particular case. As for the name, this is what Axworthy has in Sword of Persia: "At birth he was named Nadr Qoli, which means ‘Slave of the wonderful’ – a way of piously dedicating the child to the service of God. When years later Emam Qoli’s son made himself Shah, he changed his name to Nader, meaning ‘Rarity’ or ‘Prodigy’ – it is possible that this had been a nickname earlier, as the growing boy showed his uncommon abilities." Footnote: "Or possibly Nazr Qoli - which may have meant 'slave of the votive promise' - suggesting that his father had prayed for a son, and named him in thanks (see Minorsky Esquisse, pp. 3-4, and Avery, p. 5-6)". I have the Kindle edition so I can't provide a page number at the moment. Revolution Saga (talk) 04:04, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Nader Shah Afshar (6 August 1698 or 22 October 1688 – 20 June 1747) was the founder of the Afsharid dynasty of Iran and one of the most powerful rulers in Iranian history, ruling as shah of Iran from 1736 to 1747, when he was assassinated during a rebellion. He fought numerous campaigns throughout the Middle East, the Caucasus, Central Asia, and South Asia, emerging victorious from the battles of Herat, Mihmandust, Murche-Khort, Kirkuk, Yeghevārd, Khyber Pass, Karnal, and Kars. He has been described as "the last great Asiatic military conqueror", and his victories during his campaigns briefly made him West Asia's most powerful sovereign, ruling over what was arguably the most powerful empire in the world. Nader also changed the Iranian coinage system, minting silver coins, called Naderi, that were equal to the Mughal rupee. This silver coin was minted in Dagestan and is dated 1741–1742. Coin design credit: unknown; photographed by American Numismatic Society
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Was Ali Mirza Khan truly the son of Nader Shah, and did he or his children ever return to Iran in the 18. century?
The life of Ali Mirza Khan, later known in Vienna as Johann Joseph von Semlin, remains shrouded in ambiguity and unanswered questions. After the assassination of Nader Shah, he was taken out of Iran by a loyalist and brought to the Habsburg court. Yet one question continues to occupy researchers: was he truly the son of Nader Shah, or was this claim a political construction, devised to lend legitimacy in the West?
At the same time, scattered local traditions and fragmentary memories occasionally speak of the possible return of his children to Iran. Could it be that his lineage found its way back to the homeland in the eighteenth century, or was their bond with Persia severed forever?
History does not provide us with a definitive answer, but this very silence and these narrative gaps are valuable. They keep the question alive: was Ali Mirza Khan a lost prince or a legend fashioned by history? And did the blood of Nader truly run through his veins and those of his children, or was it merely the shadow of a great name that weighed upon his destiny? Rozita89 (talk) 20:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
ADD rank
Nader shah or Nader Qoli was also technically Grand Vizier of Safavid empire from 1729-1736 so please add the following in the text box. ~2026-98551-9 (talk) 14:33, 13 February 2026 (UTC)





