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Nominator: Olmagon (talk · contribs) 17:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 20:21, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This one looks familiar. Will have a read now.

• T.N. Pocock – any change to know the full name?

I have tried to find it when I first came across that name but all other works from him that I found also used just initials, and I haven't found anything else mentioning a paleontologist with a name that would match. Olmagon (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• tarsometatarsus – explain? At least in the lead.

Explanation added. Olmagon (talk) 02:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• among the dense foliage of its environment – can we really speak about "dense foliage" here? I think about forests when I read this.

Changed it to vegetation. Olmagon (talk) 02:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Cradle of Humankind (a World Heritage Site about 50 km (31 mi) northwest of Johannesburg, South Africa) – This explanation is not super helpful; what the reader needs to know here instead is that the mentioned caves are part of the Cradle of Humankind. You could give the general location "north of Johannesburg" when mentioning the first cave; here it comes a bit too late.

A later sentence does state which caves from the Cradle the bones are from but I suppose I could edit that it is insisted on. Olmagon (talk) 02:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that you mention the caves earlier. It would be more helpful to introduce the Cradle of Humankind, and its location, already in the second or third sentence of the "Discovery and naming" section because this is the most basic information. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 19:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First sentence has been rewritten. Olmagon (talk) 00:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• longipes was given to this species, with the specific name meaning "long-footed" in Latin: Optional: It is standard in Wikipedia to give the individual Latin words from which the compound derives.

Added. Olmagon (talk) 02:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• the Kromdraai fossil site was distinctly that of an immature bird, suggesting that this site was used as a nesting ground – that would mean that the cave was a nesting ground; you mean the general area instead, I guess?

Yeah that, edited it. Olmagon (talk) 02:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The environment that A. longipes inhabited was similar to the grasslands of modern South Africa. – I think this is too imprecise. Habitats in South Africa are incredibly diverse; you might want to specify the type of grassland or the area you are referring to.

Now specified. Olmagon (talk) 02:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• riverine woodland – is that the same as Riparian forest?

Yeah I think so, riverine woodland ended up being a redlink so I didn't know about this page before. Olmagon (talk) 02:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Uranium-lead dating – link?

Added. Olmagon (talk) 02:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Swartkrans – In this section, you have an entire paragraph on mammals, but the most obvious – the other bird species – are not mentioned. Is A. longipes the only bird discovered there? If so, that deserves mention. Otherwise, the other birds seem more important to mention than the mammals.

I'm not entirely sure, I couldn't find papers on other birds from Lower Bank (there was one paper on Swartkrans birds but they were all from Member 3), and the PBDB page mentions a few birds in the Member 1 assemblage yet when I check the reference they list I didn't see such a mention (either it isn't there or I missed it). Olmagon (talk) 18:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• support the idea that this environment was dominated by savanna – fist time you mention savanna. It seems you should specify the type of grassland you are talking about earlier.

Specified in the earlier paragraph now. Olmagon (talk) 02:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• A "See also" section just for portals seems a bit non-standard nowadays; those are on the talk page.

Gone. Olmagon (talk) 02:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• a buttonquail of the genus Turnix, a swift of the genus Apus, a guineafowl of the genus Numida, two falcons of the genus Falco, and a vulture of the genus Gyps – if we can't identify the species, how do we know they are extant?

Mentioned they are extant genera but indeterminate species now. Olmagon (talk) 02:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• That's all! Comprehensive, and well-readable article, thank you for that. I gave the article a copy edit too, please make sure to revert anything you disagree with. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 20:21, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Looks good! Promoting now, congrats! --Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]