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Lexington SC - Louisville City Rivalry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Too much work done on this, doesn't qualify under WP:NRIVALRY, sources are routine coverage. We've deleted multiple types of these articles already. This is no different. Govvy (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that the article is not notable and should be deleted. Hard to call something a "rivalry" if there's only ever been a single competitive match played. gingerlines (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

both teams refer to this as a rivalry, and you’ll likely never get more than routine coverage on these lower division rivalries. What’s the point of deleting this article just to have to remake it in 2-3 years? Snakshopp (talk) 14:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, every other of Louisville’s rivalries has a page— and the one with Lexington is the one they advertise the most. As a native of the area, both towns are flying the flags of the individual teams in the downtown area to hype up the game. Just because you aren’t familiar with the rivalry doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist Snakshopp (talk) 14:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For rivalries to be notable they must recieve significant coverage. This rivalry does not, so it should be deleted. Esolo5002 (talk) 16:06, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's certainly value in keeping this in the draftspace until there's more coverage and a few more matches have been played between the clubs, but as it currently stands it does not satisfy the general notability guidelines required for a rivalry article. The point of remaking it in 2/3 years (or less) is that it will fit within the WP guidelines at that time. I'm confident that as the teams play one another there will be more reliable coverage that can establish notability, just not yet.

And as a former Lexington resident I personally couldn't be more excited for what I'm sure will be a robust rivalry between the teams in the future! But one competitive match and not a single reliable third-party source specifically discussing the 'rivalry' means we'll have to wait a little bit before it is notable. gingerlines (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Richard O'Connor (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I cannot find any WP:SIGCOV of this player in any sources, much less independent, reliable, secondary ones. The only sources (in this article, in the 11 other-language wiki articles, and in WP:BEFORE searches) are stats pages, which is not enough for an WP:NSPORT pass. If anyone finds anything else please ping me. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:20, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, Could possibly be in violation of WP:OR as well due to the lack of verifiability of the sources. I have attempted to research this player for a little while now and could not find anything of notability. Tytech038 (talk) 14:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Lamont (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG. No SIGCOV found during search. Canary757 (talk) 12:41, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect too List of Colchester United F.C. players (1–24 appearances) If that's all he did then redirect. Govvy (talk) 13:01, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rashid Alhassan (footballer, born 2000) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable footballer, basically without professional career. His U17 appearances are not enough to establish notability. At senior level, he played in only one match in a professional league, and then 28 matches in amateur tiers. He is 24 and has not played football since September 2021, so it can be assumed that his career ended before it actually began. FromCzech (talk) 12:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fabrice Guérit (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Made one appearance in the French Division 2 according to the article. A web search doesn't give anything resembling WP:SIGCOV. I couldn't even find a profile at the database website worldfootball.net which has most notable players (and more). Fails WP:GNG. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:27, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV as a non-notable professional football player. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:19, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, a pointless page unfortunately. Geschichte (talk) 16:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination. Even if there was corresponding article on French Wikipedia, references might be worse. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:24, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That Forward Center Died at Dawn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unreferenced film article. The one citation is to a generic website page; possibly as a result of link rot. It was a primary source anyway. Not clear this film passes WP:NFILM or WP:GNG. As a Lugnuts created stub this could have been deleted through WP:PROD after the outcome at WP:ARBCOM, but I decided to take it here instead in case the community thinks it is worth rescuing. 4meter4 (talk) 18:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: and improve with sources from the corresponding article in Spanish for a start. -Mushy Yank. 21:09, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Mount Everest Nepal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Two sources with a passing mention and probably not redirect per confusing name. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 13:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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In response to the previous discussion, none of those sources that were mentioned are notable, all blogs and the one Portuguese source that mentions it is a mild passing mention. The top-level league of Palau is essentially a recreational league, with the teams seemingly not having any true organization and structure. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 14:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Although WP:FOOTYN says [t]eams that have played in ... the national tier(s) of the league structure in countries where no cup exists ... generally meet WP:GNG criteria, I still feel we must perform due diligence to ensure that WP:GNG is met, which I do not feel is the case. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:57, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Raphaël van Praag (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No indication of notability for this football referee. Meanwhile, none of the sources in the article seem to provide WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 02:39, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak Keep Article for a very old historic referee, possible WP:OFFLINESOURCES. There is clearly some coverage there. Maybe more in newspaper archives, so I am employing a weak version of WP:BASIC. Govvy (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Peace Foundation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Can't really find anything outside of the one RSSSF, not enough for an article Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:00, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of football clubs in Palau – But I'm not against deleting it, since the name is absurdly vague and could indicate other subjects. Svartner (talk) 02:29, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 19:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas Caniggia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Only shows his time in the Corinthians youth sectors in 2014, and 10 matches for Flamutari at Soccerway ([1]). Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:58, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nomination. No Portuguese Wikipedia exists. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fernando Gomes (footballer, born 1993) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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He was part of the Copa São Paulo winning squad for Corinthians (U20 tournament) but had no relevance in the rest of his career. I haven't found anything that demonstrates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

João Arthur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The player participated in 7 matches for SE Palmeiras in 2010 [2], but in 2013 he was already retired with very few professional appearances. There is nothing to indicate enough WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 17:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - It does not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. If there is insufficient coverage from reliable, independent sources demonstrating his lasting impact or significance, the article may not warrant inclusion. Additionally, if most sources are primary, promotional, or lack in-depth analysis.--Loewstisch (talk) 14:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro Vitor (footballer, born February 1998) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Athlete with few professional appearances (8 matches for Tupi FC and 2 for Costa Rica-MS [3]). The article contains a call-up by an infamous Brazil university team (I've never heard of it). Gross failure in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:00, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Creating this in the first place was a major error, but no harm done. Geschichte (talk) 21:44, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gilsinho (footballer, born 1991) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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After a WP:BEFORE I only found his passage through three defunct teams: Palmeiras B, SC Atibaia and J. Malucelli [4]. No signals of WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Konosuke Kusazumi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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He played 7 J3 league games in 2017, has not played professionally since. No article on the Japanese wikipedia. Creator is blocked. RossEvans19 (talk) 14:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, has never been relevant. Geschichte (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Loun Srdanović (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This player certainly exists, but I cannot find anything close to WP:SIGCOV on him. Given that this same article appears to have been deleted (or draftified) just five days ago without any meaningful improvement, it suggests that there isn't much out there. Anwegmann (talk) 05:02, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Since the drafttication process was not respected. Svartner (talk) 16:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uranio Pereira (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Brazilian athlete who only played for modest teams in Paraguay (General Caballero SC, 2 de Mayo, Sportivo Trinidense). The databases show few matches played, there is no corresponding article on es.wiki and no sign of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 04:02, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Creator is blocked. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 12:28, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per above. Coeusin (talk) 14:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Caitlin Robba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find any WP:SIGCOV of this Gibraltarian women's footballer. JTtheOG (talk) 02:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – All references provided are passing mentions. I'll admit that significant coverage for articles regarding women's footballers are difficult to find, especially those from smaller countries such as Gibraltar. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:47, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrey Almeida (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Another case of a player with few professional appearances recorded in the databases (2 matches for Soccerway [5], 2 for ogol.com.br [6]). The article states that the athlete played for Inter Turku, but without the appropriate references. Too little to establish WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:44, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2015 Central New York Classic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This was the only piece of independent coverage I was able to find of this college soccer tournament. JTtheOG (talk) 23:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. I couldn't find any coverage to meet WP:GNG and it is hard to imagine a college soccer tournament in the United States would receive significant coverage. Esolo5002 (talk) 02:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – "apparently a soccer/football event", I believe this sentence already says everything that is necessary... Svartner (talk) 03:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Per Esolo5002, fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination --Old-AgedKid (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kanchanathat Poomsri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Couldn't find significant coverage. Fails WP:GNG. No indication of notability. Paul Vaurie (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Lack of sources, impossible do WP:V. Svartner (talk) 21:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about her. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – The subject does not have any news coverage. Mysecretgarden (talk) 05:58, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment She is among the league top scorer according to 2024 Thai Women's League 1#Top scorers in country top-level women soccer. (Slightly different spelling is used there) According to this news [7], she had a scoring attempt at 87 minute mark for Thailand National Team against Uzbekistan on 26 February 2025 in 2025 Pink Ladies Cup. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 15:24, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment We could redirect her to Thailand women's national football team, as she's played for the national team [8]. RossEvans19 (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Naoki Hara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Played 5 times professionally, hasn't played professionally since, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 14:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete, in no way eligible for Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 20:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Having been part of Japan's youth teams, he could even be draftified, but according to Soccerway he hasn't participated in professional matches since 2022. Appears to have abandoned his career. Svartner (talk) 21:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We've been discussing RossEvans19's noms of Japanese players at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) recently. I've

The first thing I notice when looking at this BLP is that w:ja:原直生 is noticeably longer, cites six sources, and says that he's played 17 games for FC Tiamo Hirakata in addition the 5 for Shonan Bellmare.

Several of these cited sources at the Japanese Wikipedia are links to pages in the website for Shonan Bellmare, which I believe means that they are non-independent. However, it also cites this news article: https://web.gekisaka.jp/news/jleaguecup/detail/?325297-325297-fl (which is a couple of paragraphs about the first professional game he played).

And that source in turn leads me to these:

• https://web.gekisaka.jp/player/?48324-48324-jp – profile page; useful for citing basic information like birthdate, jersey numbers, national team appointments. (It also has a dozen photos, which is sometimes interesting for ==External links==.)
• https://web.gekisaka.jp/news/jleague/detail/?337042-337042-fl – news article about him and a teammate being promoted to the top team; easily surpasses the WP:100WORDS standard
• https://web.gekisaka.jp/news/jleague/detail/?350123-350123-fl – team roster for Shonan Bellmare 2022 season

Searching more generally:

• https://web.ultra-soccer.jp/news/view?news_no=434674 is an article in a sports news website that talks about his transfer

Thinking about the team roster, we have pages such as 2022–23 FC Bayern Munich season#Players, and we have a 2018 Shonan Bellmare season#Squad, and we have Shonan Bellmare#Current squad. Why are here at AFD, trying to delete a basic (if outdated) article, instead of creating a 2022 Shonan Bellmare season and redirecting any truly non-notable players to that, or to a List of Shonan Bellmare players, to coordinate with the Category:Shonan Bellmare players? Or to 2023 Tiamo Hirakata season, since he seems to have played more for them? Or redirecting it to FC Tiamo Hirakata#Current squad, where his name is already listed?

As a practical matter, his name is already linked in these four pages:

• FC Tiamo Hirakata
• List of J1 League football transfers winter 2019–20
• List of Japan Football League football transfers winter 2022–23
• List of J1 League football transfers winter 2022–23

and should be listed in these pages, if we ever get around to creating them:

• 2021 Shonan Bellmare season
• 2022 Shonan Bellmare season
• 2023 Tiamo Hirakata season
• List of Shonan Bellmare players
• List of Tiamo Hirakata players

and that, I think (in combination with the 100WORDS source) is probably a reason for us to just keep this article. I judge this as a case of borderline compliance with the GNG and a practical solution to providing information about an athlete who has played for two teams in three seasons.

BTW, since I don't read Japanese, it took me about an hour to sort through this one AFD. @RossEvans19, I see that you nominated almost 20 articles for deletion today, and that most of your nominations involve Japanese players. Did you search for Japanese-language sources? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first site you linked is a routine game recap that mentions him in passing. The stats profile page is obviously unusable for notability purposes. The other two Gekisaka links and the Ultra-Soccer link are routine transactional announcements that merely repeat the press releases + quotes. Transfer news like this is expected for every player, which is why no one brings it up at AfD. JoelleJay (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News of any sort is accepted by the WP:GNG standard. Wikipedia:Notability#Events and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) exclude "routine" news reports, but the GNG does not. If people are ignoring reliable sources merely because they're expected to exist, they're not applying the GNG. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:32, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTNEWS is policy, so no, WP:N does not accept just any type of news. If you think an announcement that is mostly comprised of verbatim quotes is acceptable coverage then you need to reacquaint yourself with our P&Gs. JoelleJay (talk) 00:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The only sentence in NOTNEWS that could be relevant is For example, routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, while sometimes useful, is not by itself a sufficient basis for inclusion of the subject of that coverage (see WP:ROUTINE for more on this with regard to routine events), which we have discussed elsewhere. It's not at all clear that an article talking about someone's education is "routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities". WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That source doesn't discuss his education at all! Where are you reading that?? And literally the only non-quote content in it is On the 20th, Shonan Bellmare announced that Shonan Bellmare U-18 defender Ishii Daisei and midfielder Hara Naoki will be promoted to the top team next season. Both players have been registered with the top team as second-category players since last season, and Hara played in four games in the Levain Cup this season. Which is trivial, routine announcement coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This source: https://web.ultra-soccer.jp/news/view?news_no=434674

Google Translate renders part of it thusly: "Hara is a product of Shonan's academy. He was registered as a second-class player while enrolled in the academy, and was officially promoted last season, but he ended up not playing, and will be looking for a new challenge this year. He said goodbye through Shonan. "I was able to grow thanks to Bellmare since my first year of high school, but I had a lot of worries last season, so I decided to transfer in order to grow even more. I will continue to do my best. Thank you."" WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please, can you leave me alone? I don't know why you've taken so against what I'm doing - I'm really not trying to offend or insult or hurt - I'm just trying to remove Wikipedia of poor articles. RossEvans19 (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Deletion is not cleanup. Editors (not any individual, but all of us) should not use AFD as a way "to remove poor articles". Poor articles should get improved with the [Edit] button.

The reason I asked you about language-specific searches is because it's especially difficult to determine whether a Japanese subject is notable if you can't read Japanese. I can't. I found some sources by checking a very small fraction of the reliable sources listed in List of newspapers in Japan. It's very slow work for me. Someone who could read Japanese would be able to do it much faster. If you have done that work, please tell us. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – Even though he played for the Japan Football League after 2022, as far as I know, it is not a full-professional league. More substantial sources for WP:SIGCOV are missing here. Svartner (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete 100Words is an essay with no standing, NOTNEWS is policy, and the sources presented above are trivial and routine coverage. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 15:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Tsutomu Fujihara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Played once professionally, retired in 2003, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 14:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Big failure of SPORTCRIT, nothing usable in ja:wiki. Edited by sock farm and creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 20:53, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Koichi Ae (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Played 4 times professionally, retired in 2006, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Big failure of SPORTCRIT, nothing usable in ja:wiki. Edited by sock farm and creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Diego Faria (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Player with few professional appearances for América Teofilo Otoni and the defunct Phoenix FC. Nothing that indicates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I can't see any significant coverages and also fails WP:GNG. AgerJoy 18:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Unable to confirm this club exists. There are a couple of results from allafrica.com between 2007 and 2009,[9] [10] as well as a BBC piece which is referenced in the article, but these give barely any details of the club itself. C679 09:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of football clubs in Sierra Leone – As ATD. Svartner (talk) 10:51, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Redirect not thrilled about this - there are additional mentions in AllAfrica including [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] but the biggest problem is that they essentially disappeared in 2008–9, the BBC article claims they were renamed, and I can't find any evidence of the renamed team anywhere. RSSSF only mentions them once after 2008, in the covid shortened 2020 season. Based on the AllAfrica coverage, I think we could probably create a good stub about them if they were playing in the second division now instead of in 2008, but we may have found pretty much everything there is to find about them. SportingFlyer T·C 04:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to List of football clubs in Sierra Leone because the club is not so important that it should be a separate article --Edit.pdf (talk) 08:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 02:48, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 02:48, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete not notable.--Loewstisch (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played 16 times professionally in 2014, hasn't played professionally since, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Played 19 times professionally, has not played since 2018, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:42, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – The only potential significant coverage is Gekisaka that tells he made his professional debut with a goal, but only one reference is not enough. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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There is one non press release source in the article that doesn't work. Played 24 times professionally [17], hasn't played since, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – References are primary, interviews, or profiles. Mysecretgarden (talk) 16:22, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Played 24 times professionally [18], has not played since 2019, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played 19 times professionally [19], has not played since 2019, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:29, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theking49393 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played 34 times professionally (23 in Singapore [20]) has not played since 2017 RossEvans19 (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom fails GNG and has no reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theking49393 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played 48 times for Albirex Niigata Singapore [21], retired in 2018, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:20, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Gekisaka listed WP:PASSINGMENTION. JP wiki uses the same source as the EN one. Google news as 4 items, two WP:PASSINGMENTION from Gekisaka and 2 primary source. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete per nom, this page Fails GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theking49393 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played 5 times professionally, [22], 4 for Fujieda and 1 for Albirex Niigata Singapore, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 08:35, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Delete: It's hard finding article for the guy as there is another guy named Shuhei Yamada (an economist) which ironically has more coverage than him and probably notable for Wikipedia lol. Gekisaka only listed WP:PASSINGMENTION and other than his transfer here. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Has not played professionally since 2017, article fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 02:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I mean, guy has no JP wiki article is a major red flag for a biography article. Gekisaka only listed WP:PASSINGMENTION of this guy and literally no other articles besides primary sources. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: No significant coverages and fails WP:GNG. AgerJoy 17:55, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete non notable soccer player who barely played a couple games Fails WP:GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theking49393 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Montrose Works F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No sign of notability, and one of the two links is dead. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as could have been nice to at least have it merged to an existing Wikipedia article about its respective company its representing, the Montrose Works Factory or even its original owners William Lee & Sons Limited, as part of it's history but I have yet to find an article made for it, to note though I did find it's company website still running https://www.wmlee.co.uk/about-us/our-history/ . So for me unless an article about its owners or the Facory where the F.C. team is named from can be made to be merged with, I agree with Allan Nonymous for its removal.Villkomoses (talk) 13:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Redirect to 1900–01 FA Cup qualifying rounds as sole claim to fame. GiantSnowman 19:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect – Per GiantSnowman. If offline sources later appear, it is easier to reestablish the article. Svartner (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect - Per GiantSnowman and Svartner. RossEvans19 (talk) 02:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect as per the above. I was going to ask why that article rather than 1899–1900 FA Cup qualifying rounds given that they played in both, but it seems the 1899-1900 article doesn't exist..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Higor (footballer, born 1998) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Another case of a player with few professional appearances (8 in Soccerway [23] 19 in ogol.com.br [24]). The athlete has already retired and the sources in the article do not show any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 04:32, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Only 3 professional appearances according to Soccerway and 9 according to ogol.com.br [25]. Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:13, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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According to Soccerway he only had 9 professional appearances in his career. The player's page at ogol.com.br/playmarketstats.com has been removed. Zero WP:SIGCOV and also fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - removal of his stats page speaks volumes here. And it appears to be only stats pages to begin with. C679 09:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 14:05, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Only 17 professional appearances from EC Santo André, from 2017–2021 [26]. In other databases such as ogol.com.br, they have not recorded any activity since then. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:43, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't find reliable sources to support WP:GNG. Player made 4 Ligue 2 appearances ten years ago. No sources indicate notability other than article creation when WP:NFOOTY existed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 00:24, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - these sources do not establish notability. C679 09:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. Lack of SIGCOV on search. Canary757 (talk) 19:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:11, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Redirect to 1984–85 Colchester United F.C. season as sole claim to fame. GiantSnowman 21:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect Per GiantSnowman. - RossEvans19 (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusing, unreferenced article in which the author tries to make a 1950 tour to America by Turkish football team Beşiktaş J.K. into an international cup. Several other clubs also toured the US in 1950 including Manchester United and Hamburg SC. I can find no evidence that any of these tours were US or international cups. John B123 (talk) 09:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment Not sure it needs it's own page, certainly an interesting piece of history. The article is not unreferenced, it has external links which act as such so I find your nomination slightly floored. My suggestion is too add a sentence or two too the 1911–1959: initial years of football section on Beşiktaş J.K.. Regards Govvy (talk) 11:48, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Merge with Beşiktaş J.K.: I'm inclined to agree with Govvy here, it certainly seems notable enough to mention with a few sentences on the Beşiktaş J.K. page, but I haven't found enough WP:LASTING coverage to warrant it's own article per WP:NSPORTSEVENT (although someone familiar with Turkish sources may be able to find more). Having said that, the quality of prose isn't great, so I think it would require some copy editing. As an aside, @Jvore7, looking at your talk page, you have had a very similar article speedily deleted, and have moved this article back to mainspace two times after being draftified by other editors. I have attempted to communicate with you on your talk page, are you able to interact with the discussion here? FozzieHey (talk) 12:53, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:04, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Merge with Beşiktaş J.K.#1911–1959: initial years of football – Per Gowy. Could also be improved in an article for the club's 1950–51 season. Svartner (talk) 00:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksandr Komissarov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Really had no playing career and is only known as a football manager on the third and fourth tier in Russia. The Russian Second League might have been included in the old "professional league" list of WP:WPF. However it is very obvious that the Second League was not fully professional, consisting of 60 teams of varying strength. This would need multiple pieces of in-depth, secondary, independent coverage to pass the GNG bar. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:04, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete since no search party returned from the taiga with some worthwhile morsel of notability. -The Gnome (talk) 00:29, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:16, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• [27] Sources--176.88.139.243 (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SPORTCRIT Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:12, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody should use Football Database anymore per WP:WPFLINKSNO; there is a discussion regarding its deletion on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 October 5#Template:FootballDatabase.eu. Even only one significant coverage provided is too weak to establish notability for any article, including Komissarov. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - the allegation of notability is as a manager, and based upon that, he's not notable. an article about his alleged career as a player would have to be written from scratch. It's possible that he was a 40-year-old rookie, but again, that's a new story. Bearian (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – The subject does not have enough news coverage. Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Mysecretgarden (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nico Corti (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this Belgian footballer to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 06:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Our subject does not meet the notability criteria. -The Gnome (talk) 00:27, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:16, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:34, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this Haitian footballer, who has not played a game in five years. JTtheOG (talk) 06:05, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Played for the Haitian national team, university division 2, and was promoted for two years in an amateur league before becoming a free agent. A few press releases about transfers, but no notable coverage of their performance on the teams. Matthew Yeager (talk) 08:11, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete since subject fails WP:GNG. -The Gnome (talk) 00:26, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:17, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Hasn't played enough to have enough written about him. Fails WP:GNG – RossEvans19 (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete the player is not notable, no sigcov (reliable sources missing). --Cinder painter (talk) 09:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Al-Sarori (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete since subject fails WP:GNG. -The Gnome (talk) 16:56, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:20, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete : As per nomination and also Fails WP:GNG . Gauravs 51 (talk)
• Delete fails Anybio, GNG with no relevant sigcov. Cinder painter (talk) 13:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Lateef (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers, since subject fails WP:GNG. -The Gnome (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Abid Ali (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: The nominator did not provide a statement for this one, but I assume this was inadvertent, and the same basic rationale as their other recent nominations in this topic area applies here — a GNG/NSPORTS failure for lack of significant coverage that, at best, is reliant on non-notability-supporting routine coverage. (I don't generally provide any opinion in AfDs in this topic area, and will not provide one here either.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:09, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • This has been repaired, so I've struck to prevent confusion. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:49, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Redirect to 2007 AFC Asian Cup squads#Iraq as ATD. GiantSnowman 14:02, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to 2007 AFC Asian Cup squads#Iraq since subject lacks individual notability. -The Gnome (talk) 16:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: From a quick search I have identified a number of sources in Arabic coverage for this player, which I have added to the page. Considering this is a player who played in and won the 2007 AFC Asian Cup final which is one of the top honours in international football, it would have made much more sense to add a "Sources exist" or equivalent template to the page rather than nominating it for deletion. Hashim-afc (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Ahmed Tawfiq (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: he was not in that list. But he is now. Geschichte (talk) 21:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect – Per above. Svartner (talk) 00:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mustafa Ahmad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:30, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers' since subject lacks individual notability. -The Gnome (talk) 16:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hamza Adnan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:28, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers as ATD. GiantSnowman 14:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers since subject distinctly lacks individual notability. -The Gnome (talk) 16:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:07, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Faisal Jassim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:06, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: From a quick search I have identified a number of sources in Arabic coverage for this player, which I have added to the page. Faisal Jassim is one of the most decorated players in the Iraqi league in recent years, one of the most talked about players of the 2023 Arab Club Champions Cup and even listed as a club legend by Al-Shorta SC a major club in Asia that just participated in 2024–25 AFC Champions League Elite. I do not particularly understand the logic behind such deletion nominations, it would be better to add a "Sources exist" template instead. Hashim-afc (talk) 16:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ammar Ahmad Hantoush (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:02, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Walid Khalid Afat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 00:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to 1996 AFC Asian Cup squads#Iraq as ATD. GiantSnowman 14:00, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements.c Cassiopeia talk 23:59, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Double league and double cup champion in Iraq, but I'm not taking it upon me to search in Arabic, so redirect to List of Iraq international footballers pending better sources. Geschichte (talk) 07:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Salim Hussein (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 23:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Khaldoun Ibrahim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 23:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment – It is highly unlikely that a 2007 Asian champion player would not have WP:SIGCOV in Arabic sources. There is material about the Iraq title even in other languages. Svartner (talk) 23:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Sources? as per requirements indicated above. Cassiopeia talk 00:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Comment Really? Nothing is Mesopotamian Arabic or Farsi? I don't trust your nomination, I feel it's probably a bias one and I doubt you will even be able to find sources due to language barrier. With the multiple nomination you're doing. I will simply say Procedural keep because I don't trust your process. I am simply going to post on this one. Govvy (talk) 12:05, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to 2007 AFC Asian Cup squads#Iraq. GiantSnowman 13:58, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I find no coverage for this athlete. There is likely some in the native-language media, but I am unable to search them... Happy to revisit if a native speaker can present some sourcing that would help. Oaktree b (talk) 23:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: From a quick search I have identified a number of sources in Arabic coverage for this player, which I have added to the page. Considering this is a player who has won the AFC Asian Cup in 2007 which is one of the top honours in international football, it would have made much more sense to add a "Sources exist" or equivalent template to the page rather than nominating it for deletion. Hashim-afc (talk) 15:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 23:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 12:28, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I believe deletion is out of the question as the person has an entry in List of Iraq international footballers, which would be a good redirect ATD. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: In order for a subject to warrant a dedicated page on Wikipedia, it must fulfill the criteria outlined in WP:GNG. Merely being included in a list of articles or possessing links to specific articles does not suffice to establish notability. Cassiopeia talk 07:16, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  What are you referring to here? Geschichte (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wissam Kadhim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 22:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:34, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to List of Iraq international footballers – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 12:27, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I believe deletion is out of the question as the person has an entry in List of Iraq international footballers, which would be a good redirect ATD. Geschichte (talk) 07:05, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Samir Abdul-Ridha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 20:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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*Redirect to Football at the 1986 Asian Games – Men's team squads#Iraq – As WP:ATD. If more sources appear, I will change my vote. Svartner (talk) 16:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – Per BeanieFan11. Svartner (talk) 19:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I feel he's probably notable. The Arabic article notes that he "excelled" for his club and helped them win the top-tier Iraq championship and he "was among the best Iraqi goalkeepers of the 1980s," which is demonstrated by him being the team's goalkeeper at the Asian Games. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's a story on him here – he later became goalkeepers coach for Al-Ramtha SC in Jordan. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is a forum but someone there notes "I read an article in one of the electronic newspapers by brother Ali Al-Hasnawi, in which he narrates the history of the [goalkeeper] – The distinguished Iraqi Samir Abdul Redha, the national team goalkeeper in the eighties, and his journey that led him To train Benfica goalkeepers and supervise great goalkeepers such as the German Anka. He worked with Mourinho and Camacho, and before that, the Portuguese coach Vingada described him as 'the best coach.'" It includes a long snippet from the story but it seems it might be Adul-Ridha talking rather than a sportswriter – it does say that it is only a portion of the story though. He seems likely notable to me. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Keep. This blog post about Adbul-Ridha contains photos of in-depth newspaper stories about him. It seems he was well-covered in Portuguese for being the first Iraqi in Portuguese football; he was known under the name "Samir Shaker" there and I found another story on him here. In addition to the Kooora post I mentioned above and the 1995 Al Riyadi newspaper I showed, this should be sufficient to keep given the circumstances (very poor access to the sources of the time). He seems to have been a star Iraqi goalkeeper and among their most prominent goalkeepers in the 1980s. Given the popularity of football in Iraq, it is all but certain he would have been significantly covered in his day. @Svartner: BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 20:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Not only for the sources already available but also from how I feel like that playing in a major event such as the Asian Games already demonstrates notability considering the states of other athletes for the Olympic games of the same decade. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 21:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure if we need a season article for an exhibition competition between retired players. Fails WP:GNG in my book, and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. What is there to say about this competition? This page is just stats and whatnot. Paul Vaurie (talk) 20:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure how exactly to format the reply, but I think it is notable due to extensive media coverage in the middle east, and a season article was created due to plans that this will be a biannual tournament to accompany the senior men's tournament. Exhibition matches and tournments have wikipedia articles if they are notable, such as Soccer Aid, Sidemen Charity Match, and 2025 NBA All-Star Game amongst many others Alitheboss55 (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Added a number of new sources. Naturally the tournament has not started yet so more sources will be added as events occur, but I think there is notable coverage from around the region about this event. Alitheboss55 (talk) 21:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• KEEP has WP:SIGCOV Alitheboss55 (talk) 22:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Taku Morinaga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Hasn't played since 2019, fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 16:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Other than the The Straits Times article (which is already in the article), here's what I found,
  • Gekisaka,
  • Yahoo News,
  • Yahoo Sports (though I doubt this has WP:SIGCOV but seems like it)
  • Yahoo News
  • Gekisaka
  • Gekisaka

It's hard looking for the guy as Takuro Morinaga has the same character as him. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 06:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Emil Kalous (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NATH and WP:NOLY. Non-notable athlete with a short career and without achievements.The recent expansion did nothing to prove notability. FromCzech (talk) 08:34, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: As I had stated in my prod endorsement: Fails WP:NATH and WP:NOLY. Also fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – The third reference looks decent, but multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. It also looks like a blogspot anyway. I thought of redirect to Athletics at the 1924 Summer Olympics – Men's marathon#Results, but given that nothing happened to this person since his participation and we can't find anything to verify his death, further coverage of him are extremely impossible to find. Offline sources like archived newspapers may exist, but we can't assume that to be the case. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:26, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Clariniie, although multiple sources containing significant coverage are required to exist, only one is actually required to be cited in the article, per WP:SPORTCRIT prong 5 which is fulfilled in this case. I don't think that It also looks like a blogspot is a fair reason for dismissing a source because it's not a Blogspot site. --Habst (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Even with only one significant coverage seems to be weak to establish notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:57, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Meeting this requirement alone does not indicate notability, but it does indicate that there are likely sufficient sources to merit a stand-alone article. That indication is if the subject already meets NATH, which they don't. We need to establish GNG for him here. JoelleJay (talk) 22:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 12:46, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Another Lugnuts page. Per Clara. RossEvans19 (talk 13:27, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, per the expansion. Subject was a runner-up finisher at the Prague Marathon (before its 1995 reboot) in the 1920s, posted top times in the 5000 m and 10,000 m and was also an accomplished association football player. One of the sources we have says (translated), "sometimes you'll find his name in an old almanac or brochure mentioning the old days of Hradec Králové athletics". So that means invoking WP:NEXISTS is valid here -- where are those old almanacs or brochures? As long as we know they exist (and we do because they're referenced in the article), Wikipedia guidelines say those should be considered in deletion discussions. --Habst (talk) 14:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Nothing in the expansion suggests it would pass the WP:NATH criteria. The 1920 marathon in Prague is a different competition than the modern Prague Marathon, and with significance not exceeding the national level. Records in almanacs about regional athletic competitions can hardly be taken as SIGCOV and notable sporting achievements. It is also not true that he was an "accomplished association football player" – there is only a mention of him playing for a club playing in a regional competition. FromCzech (talk) 11:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Have any Czech newspapers from the time been searched? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:47, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect. No SIGCOV in IRS. The Hradec Kralove site is a group blog by local amateur sports historians. If actual sources are found the page can be recreated. JoelleJay (talk) 19:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Habst. Notable through competing in the Olympics as well. Paul Vaurie (talk) 20:29, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Keep per Habit and COMMONSENSE. GiantSnowman 20:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the expansion by Habit. We haven't even checked old Czech newspapers yet. The Knowledge Pirate (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Czechoslovakia at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics, as the subject is listed as a competitor at this target. Fails GNG and NATH due to a lack of SIGCOV. I don’t believe the recent additions do much to move past the GNG threshold. Frank Anchor 16:02, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would be fine if this ended as redirect. Article can be restored if anyone has found archived newspapers containing significant coverage, as BeanieFan11 said. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:14, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Czechoslovakia at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics. Per nom, the subject fails WP:NATH and WP:NOLY. This is a non-notable athlete who did not even complete his event at the Olympic Games in which he participated. He does not warrant a standalone article.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:03, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep. In addition to the one source (although a little questionable on reliability), I found a book here talking about a specific marathon that Kalous was a top competitor in. The book mentions Kalous 24 times and also notes that the marathon was covered prominently in the Czech press: "Numerous dailies reported on the marathon – Moravská Orlice, Rovnost, Lidové noviny, and Venkov" – according to the book. I think its very likely that he's notable, especially given the Olympedia bio (which, for foreign athletes like this, they seem to usually only give if they were prominent). The issue is that no Czech newspapers were searched: if they were, I'm think its very likely we'd find significant coverage of him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't understand how this helps meet the WP:NATH and WP:NOLY criteria. The book contains a detailed description of a marathon without international participation, where he finished 3rd, so his name is often repeated, but it does not contribute to expanding his biography. FromCzech (talk) 07:41, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @FromCzech, NATH and NOLY are supplemental guidelines. What's important is WP:N, not NATH, NOLY, NSPORT, NXXXX, etc. If an article has sourcing, there's no need for it to meet a supplemental guideline. --Habst (talk) 13:33, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  As WP:N says, significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article. Currently, I think sigcov is insufficient or at least on the verge. But the point is that even if we consider them sufficient, they contain nothing that would support the athlete's notability. NATH and NOLY help us objectively determine this notability, and his placements (2nd and 3rd place) in marathons of regional importance do not even come close to that. Imho redirect is the best choice. FromCzech (talk) 13:50, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks, this is the discussion I think we should be having.

  Keep in mind we have to apply a time-neutral standard, i.e. we can't favor articles just because they are more recent. The question I ask myself is, if you were someone who followed athletics news in Czechoslovakia in the 1920s, would you consider Emil Kalous notable? I would say yes, based on the sourcing we have about his accomplishments. I do think you are downplaying the importance of the Prague Marathon at the time, because I find the evidence "Numerous dailies reported on the marathon" to be convincing. --Habst (talk) 15:19, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  NSPORT isn't actually objective. It is just a skeletonized guideline of leftover stuff from before NSPORTS2022 that wasn't participation-based. NSPORT is overly strict right now since the participation criteria was removed. For example, saying stuff like "Were selected in the first two rounds of the NBA draft." isn't actually helpful for baseline notability (NBASKETBALL never gets cited at AfD because no one is nominating drafted NBA players for deletion). Every player in NBA history already has an article and was shown to pass GNG but it still wasn't good enough to have the participation criteria reinstated. There hasn't been any discussion on the merits of the leftover NSPORT guidelines. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:39, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  If an Olympian meets GNG with SIGCOV, the Olympian should be notable, full stop (except for very rare circumstances like a borderline subject requesting deletion). Whether Kalous meets NATH or NOLY is irrelevant. Furthermore, I think it is significant that the book mentions that marathons were apparently reported on extensively in the Czech press from the time – remember, we haven't searched even a single Czech newspaper! The odds that there would be no further coverage if we looked in Czech newspaper archives is very, very slim I think. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Per refs given, fails WP:N and WP:NORG. No in-depth independent coverage of this org. Related: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AFC Crewe (2nd nomination). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:45, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete and SALT - AFC Crewe has been deleted twice at AFD, this is clearly an attempt to bypass that - I'd also consider blocking the creator for disruption. GiantSnowman 13:51, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I’ll delete my own account if you can evidence any signs of my disruption.

    I’ll reiterate what I said in a different discussion on the Nufan page; my creation of the nufan article was simply to prove that some admins have much higher influence over others and the nufan article being edited and accepted by the community until I referenced you guys into it does to at least a small extent prove this.

    Regardless of your opinion of me or of AFC Crewe the organisation Nufan has had significant coverage. Irrelevant of what the football elite admins deem significant, two bbc cites, a German TV interview and the article in The Manc newspaper is more than enough for an organisation to be deemed notable.

    So I suppose we will see how much influence a very few number of people have over the largest ‘community ran encyclopaedia’ In our history over the coming days.

    Regards Iblethebible (talk) 17:55, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • The Manc [28] mentions Nufan in one sentence, compare that with WP:GNG. The BBC radio refs mentions Nufan very little if at all, and consists of people connected to AFC Crewe talking about it. Such sources can have some WP:ABOUTSELF use, but they don't help the case for WP:N. I hope you'll be able to make an AFC Crewe article stick at some point, as I understand it they've done quite well, but this is not the way to go about it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:37, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• The irony is almost tangible when I read a single-purpose account, putting this subject into a number of pages, saying how everyone else apart from that 1 person writing the single purpose all over Wikipedia is "a very few number of people" influencing Wikipedia. I'll take Gråbergs Gråa Sång's word for the BBC sources, since they aren't written sources. Checking out what The Manc is, it turns out to be a "social media publisher", which tallies with the source proffered being a bunch of Twitter posts. Other The Manc "news" turns out to be recitations of Twitter posts, too. So this is Twitter, Project:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Twitter, regurgitated. The idea that if something is said on Twitter it must be true, does not make a source reliable. The best that I could find was something that was called the Nantwich News; but that turned out to state that it was a web log. I'd like to say that it could be considered reliable, but its offer of free press passes to whomever rocks up rather militated against the idea that its authors are skilled at fact checking. Uncle G (talk) 06:34, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Fwiw, the BBC refs are about 3 min each. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  That’s three minutes of British Broadcasting Corporation coverage * 2. One of the most respected and notable news groups in the world. Iblethebible (talk) 21:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  But not about Nufan, correct? Fwiw, I mentioned length to indicate it won't take much effort to listen to them. 6 min is enough time to say a lot of interesting stuff. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 23:54, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh thankyou my mistake. Nufan is mentioned as the parent company of the club as is the structure etc. Iblethebible (talk) 12:43, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  And of course the club its structure and nufan were spoken about in depth on the largest sports television channel in Germany: Pro Sieben. Iblethebible (talk) 12:50, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I have made many edits on other pages and I'm trying to be a good contributor but sometimes it's hard when it feels like there is a lot of pushback. I have made edits on pages I can and I have created pages based on what I know about. I am really trying not to be a single purpose account. Iblethebible (talk) 12:44, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fernando Fonseca (footballer, born 1993) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unable to locate significant coverage of this individual. Searching turns up stats farms and namesakes, without any detailed information from independent sources. C679 08:43, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Brazil. C679 08:43, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. C679 08:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Per WP:HEY. I added sources that demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, the player has relevant spells with several intermediate Brazilian football clubs such as Joinville EC, SER Caxias and Ypiranga FC. Svartner (talk) 14:11, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Despite recent expansion by Svartner, in my view, most of the additional sources are transfer reports and contract renewal. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I added more recent transfer sources, but most of them provide a summary of the player's career in addition to all the relevant information to establish WP:GNG. I don't see any gaps missing. Svartner (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Svartner and AGF for notability. GiantSnowman 20:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I am withdrawing this nomination per the good sources found and added by User:Svartner. @Clariniie: Could you take a further look due to the different state of the article now? 08:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)C679[reply]

  Regardless of whether those describe the person's career or not, transfer sources are considered routine coverage. Social media ones are user-generated and should never be used on Wikipedia. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:18, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  They are not user-generated. There is a very limited number of people who have access to a club's Instagram profile. However, they are primary sources and do not contribute to notability. Furthermore, some "transfer sources" are in-depth and some (many) are not, no blanket statement can be made about transfer news - e.g. some sources use the transfer news opportunity to go into detail about the player's career, abilities, personality etc. At this point, anyway, the AFD can be closed in 20 hours after the normal elapsed time. Geschichte (talk) 11:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I kinda agree if secondary routine announcements go in-depth about the person's career! This is such a thing that comes to my mind. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:08, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 18:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. 1. Soccerway: stats N. 2. GloboEsport 1: passing mention N. 3. Futebol Interior: routine transfer announcement nearly identical to the club's press release N. 4. GE 2: routine transfer announcement also derived from PR N. 5. Press release from 3, N. 6. Marcou no esporte: reprint of press release, N. 7. GZH: routine interview, little secondary coverage N. 8. GZH: transfer announcement, slightly more material than usual but all of it is shallow stats, not secondary analysis N. JoelleJay (talk) 00:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The 8. source provides in-depth coverage of the player's entire career. The others complement practically all other remaining information. Excluding information that goes beyond the player's sporting career, there is nothing missing. Svartner (talk) 03:57, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – More complementary sources [29], [30], [31], [32]. Svartner (talk) 04:37, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  None of these sources provide any coverage of him beyond listing which teams he played for and other trivial info from press releases (and the last one is a football club). That is all info we could get from looking at his stats page, thus routine and primary. JoelleJay (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Per Svartner's current sourcing for notability. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 04:02, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  As JoelleJay stated, none of the sources indicate significant coverage required for GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:37, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As several other users stated, some of the sources indicate significant coverage for GNG. One user stating an opinion does not invalidate other users stating their opinion. Frank Anchor 15:06, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I really understand the criticism that there won't be an article dissecting the entire life of a second-tier Brazilian football player, but all the information pertinent to his sporting career is covered by the sources. I think it's a matter of WP:COMMONSENSE. Svartner (talk) 13:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just because content is verifiable doesn't mean it warrants its own separate page. Basically nothing here goes beyond what you can find in a stats database. JoelleJay (talk) 19:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per references provided by Svatner and others. I reject JoelleJay’s characterization of ref 8 as shallow stats, not secondary analysis as it provides coverage of the subject’s career to that point, beyond simple stats. Some of the remaining sources can be pieced together to get this past the GNG finish line. Per WP:NBIO, if the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. Frank Anchor 15:05, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Ref 8 says Fernando was signed by Caxias in November last year . Before that, he played for Figueirense, Grêmio Barueri, Criciúma, Moto Club, Luverdense, Deportivo Tepic, from Mexico, Itumbiara, Boa Esporte, Joinville, Brasil de Pelotas and Cascavel. This year, he played in 29 matches, 28 of which as a starter.

  In the Gaucho runner-up position , he played in 12 matches. In the Série D, he played in 17 matches. In fact, the defender was the team captain at various times this season.
  Literally nothing in there has any depth of coverage; it's all stats one could glean from his transfermarkt profile. Nothing whatsoever useful for a biography. JoelleJay (talk) 21:04, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Anchor is somehow correct. As long as the routine story provides more details about a specific than announcement, it can be used, but multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see several sentences with more-than-routine details of Fonseca's career. In addition, the requirement of multiple GNG-required sources can be circumvented by pieceing together information presented in other sources, as specifically allowed by WP:NBIO (see my comment above including relevant excerpt from that guideline). Frank Anchor 14:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

? Where is that in the guidelines? Merely having additional details does not make something automatically SIGCOV, especially if it's simple prosifying of stats. This also really isn't "more details" than you get in routine coverage of announcements (which is explicitly listed in NOTNEWS). JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You left out the rest of the sentence you quoted from NBIO: trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. None of the other independent sources offer more than passing mentions. JoelleJay (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I left that out because it is not relevant here. The info surrounding transfer announcements (which are NOT primary in most cases as they are derived from and are not exact copies of the press release), along with some coverage provided by Svartner add a few sentences here-and-there of non-trivial coverage which compliments Ref 8 which was called out above. Frank Anchor 17:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is most certainly relevant here... WP:N says It is common for multiple newspapers or journals to publish the same story, sometimes with minor alterations or different headlines, but one story does not constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing different articles does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. The info in the transfer announcements, in addition to being routine (For example, routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, while sometimes useful, is not by itself a sufficient basis for inclusion of the subject of that coverage and Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example [...] announcements columns [...] are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined, despite their existence as reliable sources), is coming directly from the press releases. What little there is about him that isn't in PR is trivial. JoelleJay (talk) 18:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Meets WP:N, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:HEY. Z. Patterson (talk) 03:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I get the sense that JoelleJay's critical source analysis was not adequately refuted. Relisting in the hope of getting another experienced editor to analyze those sources.
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• Delete: Per JoelleJay. I can't find any SIGCOV in these sources. Passing mentions and stats table aren't SIGCOV. !Keep arguments aren't convincing at all. — Benison (Beni · talk) 15:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As there is no WP:SIGCOV if there are more than 15 sources dealing with the athlete's sporting career, several of which are from large Brazilian sports portals such as GloboEsporte ([33], [34]) and GauchaZH (Rio Grande do Sul) [35]. What else is needed here, finding out what the player's favorite dish? Svartner (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, passes GNG with sifniciant coverage.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:52, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - it is not enough to simply say this meets GNG with SIGCOV when the source analysis shows otherwise. As JoelleJay has shown, all the coverage is routine, being listings, routine announcements, etc, which are not significant coverage, becuase they provide nothing that demonstrates the player is notable beyon simply being a player. Press releases and anything from the club are not independent, and all the announcements are primary sources. GNG is met when we have significant coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. We don't have those. This does not pass GNG or ANYBIO. There should not be a page until it does. I'd consider a suitable redirect should anyone wish to propose one, but failing that, this is a clear delete. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Very weak keep - It appears that Fernando has more than the average profile for a Brazilian footballer competing at the top level of secondary state competitions (Gaúcho, Mineiro, Catarinense). He was a squad regular as Boa Esporte reached the 2019 Campeonato Mineiro semi-finals and Caxias reached the 2023 Campeonato Gaúcho final. Those are fairly significant club achievements, but he didn't appear to do much of note during the matches (e.g., [36] and [37]). I've searched for Portuguese-language coverage, and I couldn't find anything better than reference #7 (which as JoelleJay noted above doesn't have a lot of secondary coverage). That said, he goes by the name Fernando (sometimes Fernando Fonseca), so I'm not at all confident my searches captured everything that is out there. Based on his above-average achievements and the usefulness of reference #7, I think we have some reason to believe SIGCOV exists. Jogurney (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One final relist to see if we can settle this clearly in one direction or the other. Anyone able to fill in Jogurney's search?
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Keep Kinda have too considering the nomination was withdrawn Theking49393 (talk) 04:43, 28 February 2025 (UTC) — Theking49393 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]