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Happy editing! Cheers, 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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February 2025

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Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I thought I added the tildes.
Is it ok now? Abcsomwiz (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All good now, thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Abcsomwiz,

You are very new to editing this project. I'm here to tell you that disputes between editors is extremely common. Reviewing content about conflicts is basically much of what I do all day as an administrator. We are here to handle misconduct but not to determine who is "right" in a disagreement about what content should be in an article.

The editor you are having a disagreement with is not an admin but they do have 6 years of experience editing. But what I don't think that you realize is that you added a LOT of content to the talk page Talk:Harla people. Typically when a new editor does this, they are ignored because others assume that they don't know much about how Wikipedia operates or our rules on sourcing and other policies. But this editor actually engaged with you about your ideas and suggestions. This doesn't happen often. While you two might disagree, they took your contributions seriously and offered you feedback, drawing on their experience as an editor which is invaluable. It is much better than being ignored.

If you thought you could pop on to Wikipedia and rewrite an article to your preference without interference, well, that's not how Wikipedia works. Editors are regularly challenged when make large additions or removals on content. And you are editing in an area of the project that is considered "Contetious" so there is extra scrutiny on editing here (see the message on your User talk page above).

I recommend that you find a way to work with the other editor and if you can't resolve your differences, try going to Wikipedia:Third opinion which is a resource to use when there are two editors who disagree. Only resort to noticeboards if there is misconduct or vandalism going on as they are generally an unfriendly place, especially for new editors.

And for general questions you have about editing on this project, I always direct new editors to the Teahouse which is staffed by experienced editors who are there to offer you advice and support. Good luck. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I take your points and acknowledge that I was wrong.
I was just frustrated but I didn't realise the large amount of text would be a negative rather than evidence for the proposed edits. Abcsomwiz (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to say I didn't think I could just do what I want. It just seemed like sources were being rejected for no reason. Abcsomwiz (talk) 03:33, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! Abcsomwiz, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
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Ruwaayad moved to draftspace

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Shareero moved to draftspace

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Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. CycloneYoris talk! 06:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thank you. Tbh I wanted them to be a draft but it published it live and I didn't know how to undo it Abcsomwiz (talk) 06:40, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Shareero. Thanks! Greenman (talk) 09:35, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

April 2025

Stop icon Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, why have you done this? I'm not aware of breaking any rule the closest was the 3 revert rule but I did not pass 3 ?? Abcsomwiz (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You've been blocked as a sock... 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who requested this? I never even edited Wiki until recently? Abcsomwiz (talk) 13:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ScottishFinnishRadish apparently checkuser'd you. Appeal the block if you will 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:07, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked another cu to check my work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the follow-up. I appreciate that you asked another cu to check. I would like to clarify that I am not the same person as the user I was blocked for allegedly being connected to. I'm not evading a block or ban, and I have not used multiple accounts for any illegitimate purpose.
I'm happy to answer any questions that may help clarify the situation. I'm also willing to follow any guidance to contribute constructively moving forward. However, some of the potentially relevant context may involve private information that is not appropriate to share here. Abcsomwiz (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
use the WP:UTRS 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you requesting deletion of all my pages before they've even confirmed what they were doing?? Abcsomwiz (talk) 13:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You should be focusing on the appeal. You can always WP:REFUND the articles if it appears to have been a mistake 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you labelling academic work as a hoax? Abcsomwiz (talk) 14:53, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
because somalia didn't invent coffee. Plus @MrOllie said that the citation you added to the article does not mention Somalia at all [1] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not appreciate being falsely accused.
I admit there were some errors in the wording of the section, however, you are accusing me of a deliberate attempt to falsify information. The claim made is backed by academic evidence. Whilst the cited source does not mention Somalia, the historical polity mentioned included large portion of the modern nation as it was a regional power. Additional sources can be included to specify the territorial extent of this historical polity and others that mention it in relation to the Somali. 'Drink' I suppose can go pending review of available academic sources.
It can be viewed as poor/incomplete edit and can be changed to reflect the country forming part of old historical polity associated with it. Unless you just believe the Horn was not involved at all?? I have seen other lists where a country is mentioned if it formed part of older territory where something was invented/practiced.
On the other hand, you seem to oppose literally anything regardless of the academic evidence provided. Respectfully, simply asserting a claim does not make it so and there is academic consensus on its origin in the Horn of Africa. It seems to me that you are just insisting on a position you favour rather than considering all evidence and making neutral judgement. Abcsomwiz (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not appreciate being falsely accused. I admit there were some errors in the wording of the section
Well then, you haven't been falsely accused.
The Adal Sultanate stuff is already in the third paragraph of the lede and the first paragraph of the Coffee#Historical transmission section. There is no reason to include it for the third time. There is nothing else for me to say other than next time try not to issue personal attacks towards other editors, if there is a next time 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't attack you I was confused? I apologise if it came across that way Abcsomwiz (talk) 15:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I read it again I would like to apologise once again and wish you well Abcsomwiz (talk) 16:07, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can modern eastern Ethiopia be associated with the term "Somali" from a historical perspective, given that it was never included in the contemporary state of Somalia established in the 1960s? Even if one contends that the Adal region extended into what is now Somalia, it is important to note that the Adalites communicated in a unique language and designated regions using their own linguistic terms. This linguistic heritage explains why certain islands such as Abd al Kuri currently belonging to Yemen are of Adal origin; for instance, "Kuri" translates to pond in the Adalite language. Magherbin (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is 'eastern Ethiopia' not almost entirely inhabited by Somalis?
What you are doing here is akin to erasing the Germans who lived beyond modern Germany and who were finally ethnically cleansed from central/Eastern Europe.
Modern 'eastern Ethiopia' does not need to be included in the contemporary Somali state to be included in a wider historical discussion of a now defunct polity!
There is no evidence for your last two sentences whatsoever and I never claimed it was an ethno-state anyways so this is a pointless tangent. Furthermore, whatever they speak, they had nothing to do with the Abyssinian highland kingdom that would after Menelik's conquest become known as 'Ethiopia'. It is anachronistic to describe a vast region as 'Ethiopia' in an historical period where it wouldn't exist until centuries later- this is why I stuck to ethnic label/s or label of this regional polity which I repeated spanning multiple present day countries and was not limited to Somali territory I have already acknowledged the errors in the present wording. You are projecting a state and identity onto people/s who not only did not identify that way but fiercely resisted it. Abcsomwiz (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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