Talk:Más Notícias

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Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 10, 2025.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that an 1895 painting (pictured) stood out to a critic who had described the artist's previous works as a "list of disasters"?
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Más Notícias
Más Notícias
  • ... that an 1895 painting (pictured), depicting a woman clutching a crumpled letter, was described by a critic as "a list of disasters"?
Created by Cathodography (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Cattos💭 15:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Not cited inline in the article itself, but that is an easy fix.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great job with the article! I am not usually a painting connoisseur, but I enjoyed reading this one. Definitely think the hook is interesting. It might be even better without the appositive to get to the interesting part as fast as possible (e.g. ... that a 1895 painting (pictured) was described by a critic as "a list of disasters"?), but that is up to you! I was unable to do many plagiarism spot-checks, as I don't speak Portuguese, so I am certifying a lack of plagiarism on AGF. But otherwise, looking great, and a big thank you for your translation work! We always need more translators :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your positive review, @HouseBlaster:! You might've missed it, but it is cited in the article, no? It appears in the "Reception and legacy" section, before that one quote. Although I approve your suggested minor adjustment above. Cattos💭 02:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cathodography: Is ref 33, Moraes 1895, p. 1, the reference? The block quote doesn't contain the text "a list of disasters". Per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#Articles, The hook fact should be cited in the article, no later than the end of the sentence it appears in. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster: Yes, Moraes 1895, p. 1 is the reference. I did not notice that you were refering to that guideline. Do you think it is satisfactory now? Cattos💭 03:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome work! for ALT0. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:16, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Shouldn't the article before 1895 be "an"? When you spell it out, it would be "an eighteen ninety-five painting"; therefore, "an". Cielquiparle (talk) 19:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes; thanks for catching that. I have silently corrected the typo in the approved hook; no need to be bureaucratic about it. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cathodography, HouseBlaster, RoySmith, and Ganesha811: I've pulled this hook due to the hook seemingly being directly at odds with the article. I would've normally just fixed it, but I'm not sure the fix would've been that interesting, so I'll leave it up to y'all to decide the best way to go forward from here. It was only on the MP for six hours, so I'm fine giving it another run :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. Looks like the wording in the article was changed after it was approved, changing the meaning significantly. Was this just a bad translation? RoySmith (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Cathodography it looks like you handled the translation. Was this an automated machine translation, or did you translate it yourself? RoySmith (talk) 11:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: I normally don't use machine translations, but since this is an article about a painting, I used an automated machine translator in some parts of the Portuguese article, but still managed to translate the rest of the article myself. I am sorry for the accidental mistranslation that I have done. If still acceptable, the hook should be ALT0A: ... that an 1895 painting (pictured) stood out to a critic who described the artist's previous works as a "list of disasters"? Cattos💭 21:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster: As the original reviewed, can you look at ALT0A above and let us know if it is approved? Z1720 (talk) 14:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't realize I could approve this afterwards; thanks for the ping! Approved ALT0A; I really like that it corrects the "misinformation" which was spread. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Más Notícias/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Cathodography (talk · contribs) 00:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 05:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I aim to complete this review within the week. Steelkamp (talk) 05:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so I have no comments for the rest of the article's prose. It's all good. All I have left to do is a source review. Steelkamp (talk) 09:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to pass the review now. Steelkamp (talk) 14:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

  • "...is an oil painting by the Brazilian artist Rodolfo Amoedo in 1895." The last part of this sentence sounds wrong. How about "...is an oil painting created by the Brazilian artist Rodolfo Amoedo in 1895."
Done Cattos💭 19:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done Cattos💭 19:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...years before its debut." I assume that refers to the painting. How about stating that explicity: "...years before the painting's debut."
Done Cattos💭 19:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Background

  • No comments.

Composition

  • No comments.

Analysis

  • No comments.

Reception and legacy

  • No comments.

Sources

  • Can you give a rationale for what makes Nicolich 2019 a reliable source? It's the most used source. Who publishes it? It uses cite journal, but looks like just a webpage. Is 19&20 an actual journal?
Its about page describes itself as an "independent on-line journal". It is not user-generated, and I believe the webpage is an academic publication even though it's independent/web-hosted. Provided the individual article, it is authored by a subject-matter expert and includes proper citations. (According to Escavador, she has a masters in visual arts). Cattos💭 19:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Given that the author is a subject matter expert, I think the source is ok. Steelkamp (talk) 14:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sources spot-checked: Nicolich 2019, Vieira 2012, Silva 2012. I had to use Google translate as I don't speak Portugese. I will have to assume good faith on the sources which are offline.

Images

I encourage adding alt text to all images, although that's not required under the GA criteria. No other issues with the images though; they are all old enough to be out of copyright.