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The result was delete. SpinningSpark 01:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Xuitlaltzin Vázquez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Insufficient claim of notability. No substantial coverage in third party sources. Swayback Maru ^{Mufka's alternate account (talk)} 19:06, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Hello. I am Miha, and I created that article. I do not understand this term, "third party sources". I think that a screenwriter and manager can be notable, since there are many who have their articles here. I need an advice, because I am not clear what to do now.--Miha (talk) 11:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Miha, more info at WP:RS and WP:V. In general, newspapers and magazines are the best sources to use on Wikipedia for topics like this. Even better if available are citations to books and academic journals. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 04:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I used several pages about telenovelas and from Internet Movie Database. For information about her marriage and her birth date, I used her Facebook account. She is not mentioned in any free book, but only a queen with the same name. Xuitlaltzin on Facebook

List of sources

• (1)Cuatro grandes dinastías mexicanas en los descendientes de los hermanos Fernández de Lima y Barragán by Matilde Cabrera Ypiña de Corsi, page 14. She mentioned that name of Xuitlaltzin is the Aztec one. She was named after one queen.
• (2)Marisol en alma-latina.net, the most famous work of Xuitlaltzin
• (3)Marisol at IMDb
• (4)For her personal life and details of it: Xuitlaltzin on Facebook, See also her Twitter account. and My Life. Xuitlaltzin made all this accounts by herself.

--— Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.104.242 (talk) 12:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, unfortunately IMDB and Facebook are not considered Reliable Sources, see WP:RS (and WP:SPS). The reason is these sources can be edited by anyone, just like Wikipedia, we have no idea who made those pages, there is no reliability. What is needed is professional publications: newspapers and magazines. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:55, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except her Facebook and Twitter accounts, I can only find her name on several pages, but it was just copied there. It seems that her personal web pages are not reliable, but her existence and fact that she is a part of crew are proved by this photo. See also opening of Marisol, where Xuitlaltzin is mentioned. (See rain and lovely couple :) (1:11)--Miha (talk) 15:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. No evidence of any coverage in reliable sources turned up in a search. Delete for failing WP:GNG and the other guidelines unless Spanish-language offline sourcing can be found or there's an indication that it exists. Twitter, Facebook etc. are not reliable sources. --Batard0 (talk) 16:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 18:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! I found some Spanish sources. Please wait.--Miha (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• TV Azteca telenovelas. Please see "CONTRA EL DESTINO".
• Balada Por Un Amor at Alma latina
• Los padres más famosos de la TV. See "El abuelo". Please use Ctrl+F.
• Biography of Xuitlaltzin Vázquez --Miha (talk) 14:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 01:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the links you've brought are useful to verify that Vázquez has indeed worked on these productions, but they do little to let us know whether Vázquez is notable. Note that notability has a specific meaning on WP; follow the link for more details, but the short version is that we need to find sources that discuss the subject and/or her work in a significant manner. Coverage doesn't have to be focused on the subject exclusively, but it has to be more than a passing mention — Frankie (talk) 21:42, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I can't find any sources online to support notability, and I think the chances for offline sources to exist are slim — Frankie (talk) 21:42, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• delete I don't think they are notable. --Shorthate (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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