Talk:Minnesota House of Representatives

Members

I thought i'd move the members of the 2005-06 session to another page. I will be doing the same for 2006-07, unless anyone is opposed.

Redundant table?

Instead of having duplicate information hanging around, I think we should instead remove the table from this article, linking to the article specific to the 2007—08 session (as I've just spent some time cleaning it up). We can save this article for information that's not specific to any particular session. Unless anyone objects, I'll be doing so in a couple weeks.. :: ZJH (T C E) 01:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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erik mortenson

Rep. Erik Mortenson (55A) was booted from the New House Republican caucus. Someone should fix the info box chart and the composition section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minnesotabaddie (talk • contribs) 02:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Current leadership of Minnesota House (2025)

Given the legally dubious organization and election of officers during the 2025 legislative session, there should be a discussion about who, if anyone, to identify as the Speaker and other officers. 156.99.14.166 (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My thought is to leave as TBD while the legal decisions are not made clearly, though it may make sense to add further notes in the article's body about the current situation. We could also use a designation like "acting speaker" or use something besides majority/minority leadership to show the leaders of each party? ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 20:44, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lisa Demuth was elected Speaker of the House and functionally serves in that position, while Melissa Hortman functionally serves as the minority leader, despite the legal dispute. Therefore we should list Demuth as the Speaker and Hortman as the minority leader. There should definitely be notes explaining the dispute, however (and it should also be explained in the article). Derpytoucan (talk) 22:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I get the contention that she's de facto speaker, the question is whether she was actually elected speaker or not, which the courts will have to decide. It's too early to say anything about what happened today other than there is a "claimed", "acting", or "effective" speaker. My worry is that to say just "speaker", even with a note, legitimizes it with WP:WIKIVOICE. And to say Hortman is minority leader is WP:SYNTH. TheSavageNorwegian 22:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It should be left as TBD or disputed, unless the wikibox is changed. MN Secretary of State Simon, who presides over the first day, has indicated he will sue to overturn the proceedings that happened after he adjourned, including the election of Demuth as speaker, arguing the House was unconstitutionally organized.
There is no position of "acting Speaker" in Minnesota, nor is there a de facto Speaker. This will all likely need to be explained in the Minnesota House of Representatives page or a separate page for this evolving event.
If not TBD, I would recommend having the positions be listed as the following and reverted to the usual after this resolves:
GOP Speaker-Designate (a common term used)
DFL Speaker-Designate
GOP Floor Leader
DFL Floor Leader Sophistry27 (talk) 00:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speaker-Designate does appear in a lot of WP:RS about the subject ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 00:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Until the matter is resolved in court, Secretary Simon's opinion is merely one side of the story. Republicans say the election was perfectly valid. No one else claims to be the House Speaker, not even Hortman, "Speaker-designate" is just a term used for each party's presumptive nominee in Minnesota politics.
Since at least something resembling an election for the speaker took place on the floor of the House, and insofar as Lisa Demuth assumes the responsibilities of the office, she should be listed as the speaker in the infobox. Again, with the relevant notes, of course.
Derpytoucan (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
State legislatures absolutely do not work on "vibes" because "something resembling an election" occured, and it's getting into the weeds of parliamentary procedure as to whether who exactly was acting out of order. Until we get a clear indication of whose interpretation of a) quoracy; and b) proper procedure when it comes to an inquorate unorganised body; is correct (which'll probably be done by the courts; I imagine the next Mason's Manual will cover this), it's disputed by any definition of the word. Sceptre (talk) 04:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice straw man there. Nobody said anything about "vibes".
An election was held on the floor of the House, Demuth will presumably assume the responsibility of House speaker for now, and nobody else is claiming to hold the office. Secretary Simon and the DFL say there wasn't a quorum (bear in mind that, to my knowledge, the Secretary of State is not authoritative on this matter), the Republicans say there was a quorum.
To say the speakership is vacant is basically just assuming that Secretary Simon and the DFL are right by default, which is an obvious violation of WP:NPOV.
Until this matter is resolved in court, Demuth will hold the responsibilities of the office of house speaker (an office which one side of the dispute claims she was duly elected to) and so she should be listed, at the very least as the acting speaker, with relevant notes explaining the controversy. By extension, Hortman should be listed as the acting minority leader since she's the leader of the minority party and there's currently no power-sharing agreement in place.
Derpytoucan (talk) 05:24, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am in favor of leaving all the fields in the infobox without candidates, but especially the majority and minority leaders. Populating these fields is pure WP:SYNTH. Minority leader is not a position that happens automatically. We're throwing these effective, de facto, acting, terms around randomly, and not following the sources. If the sources say disputed, we say disputed. TheSavageNorwegian 18:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can agree with that, but Hortman should at the very least be listed as the "DFL leader" given her role. And keeping Demuth as the "Disputed Speaker" is still the best course of action until further developments. Derpytoucan (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Members sworn in?

Members of the House are only sworn in after the election of a Speaker. Depending on who you ask, either the 66 Democrats who were not in attendance (and thus didn't take the oath) or all 133 members have not been sworn in. I remember during the prolonged Speaker fight in the US House of Representatives in January 2023, there was a note in the infobox highlighting how the members were not sworn in yet, should something like that be added here? Derpytoucan (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The members present were sworn in today, before secretary Simon declared the session adjourned. This is not the same as the US house. Here's the video of today's session. The DFL members were sworn in Sunday, though this is being contested. Here's an interview with the judge who swore in the DFL members Sunday. We should cover the whole topic of course, including allegations that they were improperly sworn in, but they were sworn in in a manner similar to methods judges have done in the past. Never at this volume of course. TheSavageNorwegian 01:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Max Rymer" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Max Rymer has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 December 23 § Current U.S. state representative redirects until a consensus is reached. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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