Talk:Christmas controversies

Gregorian calendar

The article includes the claim: "As early as 336, Roman Christians observed Christmas on 25 December of the Gregorian calendar", which is logically impossible as the Gregorian calendar was not introduced until 1582 (by Pope Gregory), more than a thousand years later. 86.11.96.95 (talk) 16:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

American Family Association

Lots of content and citations to the American Family Association, which is not a reliable source, and in most cases, not an actual controversy, but rather a manufactured controversy that AFA invented. All of these should be removed and replaced with appropriate secondary sources if at all possible. This strange idea that a partisan, activist organization gets to invent any controversy they want and then to use citations from the same org to talk about the controversy they invented needs to stop. That's not how things work. Viriditas (talk) 02:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

War on Christmas

I’m at a loss understanding why the American War on Christmas doesn’t have its own article. It’s an interesting topic that apparently began as a talking point in literature produced by the John Birch Society (JBS). The group was founded by corporate and industrial businessmen who cloaked their free market fundamentalism in patriotism and religion. It gained currency in the US after the creation of Fox News. Like most manufactured controversies by the far right this is more of an attack on secularism and liberal democracy than it is a "controversy” of any kind. Apparently, JBS predated Paul Weyrich in tactically appealing to Christian evangelicals to oppose any kind of progress towards global governance. The so-called "war on Christmas" was just a way for them to rally Christian conservatives to their side to oppose progressivism in all forms. At the end of the day, it had nothing to do with Christmas. Viriditas (talk) 22:36, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The answer to why something doesn't have it's article usually comes down to two possibilities:
  1. Sufficient sources have not been found, or
  2. You just haven't written it yet.
Nat Gertler (talk) 06:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

I believe the title of this article should revert back to "War on Christmas." Christmas controversy or Christmas controversies makes no sense because the vast majority of the world's population has no objection to this holiday. There is no controversy. What's being shown here are fringe elements on both the left and the far right attempting to abolish all references to Christmas because they either believe it's cultural imperialism or the holiday has become too secularized and commercialized. Both viewpoints are far outside the cultural mainstream ~2025-38037-16 (talk) 04:19, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are a silly person. The “war on Christmas” is a right wing American tradition going back to 1690, and it predates the formation of the US. The so-called “left” as you describe it, doesn’t exist and has nothing to do with this topic except in the Fox brain-addled imaginations of the Trump cult. Only right wing Christians tried to ban Christmas, a fact the revisionist right would like us to forget. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]