The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Procedural close so this can be worked out editorially. If the rewrite-and-rename fails, feel free to renominate. asilvering (talk) 21:06, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gameplay of Hearthstone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is the same scope as Hearthstone, which already covers the gameplay, including its development and reception. This fork re-uses many of the same sources, and writes a worse article that focuses more on material that violates WP:VGSCOPE and WP:GAMEGUIDE. There is a consensus at the Video Games WikiProject that we shouldn't create this type of WP:REDUNDANTFORK, since there is nothing here that isn't covered at Hearthstone, or some of the details about competition in Hearthstone in esports. I understand that a game with this much esport competition will naturally have more people discussing the finer points of gameplay, but this violates WP:VGSCOPE and WP:GAMEGUIDE. I would consider a redirect (or even an alternate way to split the main Hearthstone article), but I don't see material that would be suitable for a merge. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep , but refocus the page to be about the expansions to Hearthstone; that section, at least from what I last worked on it, was using third-party sources to discuss each expansion and what it added in broad terms. I agree the gameplay is mostly repetitive of what's in the main article, but if this were refocused to cover only the expansions and those details about them, it would be more routine of the type of article about DLC/expansion content for a living game. And if kept in that fashion, I'd move the table that's on the main Hearthstone page to that, since that's weighing the main page of Hearthstone down a lot. --Masem (t) 19:30, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Depending on what other editors say, I would consider a rename and rewrite around Expansions of Hearthstone. I maintain that Gameplay of Hearthstone is redundant. But it's normal for there to be Wikipedia articles about notable game expansions, and there doesn't seem to be a Hearthstone article like this, yet. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep expansion content and move to List of Hearthstone expansions / Expansions of Hearthstone, which seems to be the genuinely notable topic here. I would advocate to Redirect the current title to Hearthstone as a plausible search term and subtopic. Masem's reasoning seems sound. ~ A412 ^talk! 03:13, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or at best transwiki to Wikibooks. It fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, as there isn't really an argument that Hearthstone's gameplay is separately notable, if even Dragon Quest's gameplay got removed. I would not be surprised if Gameplay of Overwatch was also sent to the chopping block in the near future and the whole category was deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but rename to Expansions of Hearthstone or List of Hearthstone expansions per Masem and A412. This article really doesn't go into too much detail about the normal gameplay and it would not be covered by WP:GNG. I mean we have [1] and [2], plus plenty more that go into each specific expansion. Conyo14 (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment tagging editors who participated in past discussions of Gameplay of articles. @Rorshacma: @Maplestrip: @Cukie Gherkin: @Axem Titanium: @Pokelego999: @PresN: @David Fuchs: @Sergecross73: Shooterwalker (talk) 18:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Hearthstone#Gameplay. I can see an argument for a Hearthstone Expansions article, but it would require a complete overhaul from the ground up that no editor seems willing to do, which would warrant some form of removal per Wikipedia:TNT. A redirect would preserve page history should anyone choose to make that article in the future. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Er, half the current article is already set up for Expansions, there's no need to TNT that. There would need to be some discussion about heathstones expansion approach in general but that second of the article is well suited as an a list of expansions — Masem (t) 19:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename and rescope per Masem and myself (I believe I was the first to suggest this at the previous discussion. Axem Titanium (talk) 07:21, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.