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Micropolitan areas and WP:USPLACE

Should U.S. micropolitan areas use the same naming convention as metropolitan areas (i.e., WP:NCPLACE#Metropolitan areas)? Specifically, the question is whether the name of the state should be included or not and where the name of the state should be placed in the title. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:54, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See the RM at Talk:London, KY Micropolitan Statistical Area#Requested move 3 September 2025. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:47, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The answer seems to be that the name of the state should be at the end when it needs to be included. Now see Talk:Danville, Kentucky, micropolitan area#Requested move 4 October 2025, a four-article RM. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan areas and WP:USPLACE

WP:USPLACE says to do something "if there is no other metropolitan area with this name". In general, every urban center has a metropolitan area. Is this referring only to officialized metropolitan areas designated as such by the U.S. Census Bureau, or is it referring to any "region consisting of a densely populated urban agglomeration and its surrounding territories which share industries, commercial areas, transport network, infrastructures and housing"? Are any metropolitan areas outside of the United States worth considering? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We should avoid trying to make a definition developed by the US Office of Management and Budget fit places in other countries. We should instead rely on "what do reliable sources say?" Donald Albury 14:45, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RFC to change WP:NCAUST

There has been an RFC started which proposes changes to WP:NCAUST. Interested editors may participate at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#RFC: Dropping state/territory from place names by default. TarnishedPathtalk 00:50, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wording tweak revert

Greetings! With regard to Special:diff/1320212666, the intention of the new wording was just clarity without changing meaning, and adding an example from one of the other types covered. Did you find some difference in meaning that you wanted to discuss? -- Beland (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, forgot to address @TarnishedPath:. -- Beland (talk) 20:03, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Beland, all good. TarnishedPathtalk 23:21, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RfC to Update to WP:USPLACE

 Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Update to WP:USPLACE. —Myceteae🍄‍🟫 (talk) 00:11, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suburbs vs. localities in Australian place names

Can someone please clarify whether "The Rocks, New South Wales" should be titled "The Rocks, Sydney"? I am not satisfied with the current state of WP:NCAUST because it is unclear and causes confusion, it says "Localities (other than suburbs) and places such as train stations, parks, etc., are disambiguated (only if needed) by adding a comma and the local government area name (e.g., The Rocks, Sydney, rather than The Rocks, New South Wales"; a locality and a suburb are not the same thing in official terms and the guideline uses brackets to create a distinction. The Rocks in Sydney is officially gazetted as a suburb, not a locality, but it is being used as an example in that paragraph, I think there is a bit of a contradiction there because it says other than a suburb which the area is classified as. That confusion is currently the cause for a requested move for The Rocks' article. Qwerty123M (talk) 06:51, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest the simplest solution would be to remove The Rocks as an example. Although given the example has been in the naming convention for a long time, I'd suggest this discussion be open for a while to see if there is any disagreement to removing it. TarnishedPathtalk 08:23, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The text on The Rocks was added in added in July 2013. But that didn't reflect the naming convention in place at the time with New South Wales always used to disambiguate in March 2013. If The Rocks, New South Wales is moved to The Rocks, Sydney it will be the only one out of a list of 250 to have Sydney as a disambiguation suffix. Post the current WP:RM being closed, I would support a rewrite to reflect reality.
Its not just Sydney, but all members of the other list for Australian capital cities, Adelaide, Brisbane, Hobart, Melbourne and Perth use the state and not the city to disambiguate. Docciemer (talk) 08:33, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]